STEW MEAT why are you against Sustanon?

[Nathan]

Expensive, long-acting, takes forever to get out of the system after a cycle thus wasting recuperation time, shots are often painful, sust flu, need to stay on longewr usually than shorter esters to get desired results, etc. Go with something else like enanthate, cypionate, or propionate.

 

[Realgains]

Okay I found what STEW MEAT has to say about Sust.......

I hold STEW MEAT to be a true GURU so now I am really confused!

"You should do well with anything but Sustanon. With sust, you won't see the gains that you would from other tests and you could have worse side effects....All Testosterones are the same, but some are bound to long esters and some to short. Sust is a combination. It has some practical uses, but NOT for a beginner and not for bodybuilding. Your hormone levels will be bouncing up and down throughout the week." STEW MEAT

 

[Japanese machine]

EXACTLY! It is really up to personal prefrance. All I was trying to say is that it is easier to keep a steady blood level with a single ester compound then it is with 2 or more esters (in a single drug) with diffrent half lives.

M18

mustang, what are your view on aratest 2500 eth/prop? im considering this over sust, what do ya think?

 

[gwl9dta4]

Yeah ok, come on people let's all just realize that it's all theory and personal opinion. And that is all.

You must try each compund and see how you react to it. Periond end. There is really nothing else to say.

Muscular Development had an article on this senceless debate in one of it's recent issues. And the consecus? All the testosterone compunds we have today are great. They all work great. Which one will work Great for you? You will just have to try them all then deicde, till then you will just wonder and speculate.


So let's end this stupid thread.


PS
it's a proven fact that rookies will do very well with 250mg of sustanon every 10 days for 2 months. Try that with enanthate or cypionate.

 

[The Iron Game]

no one should say sustanon doesnt work, it does. It is just that it takes longer to notice results, is often looked upon as being better due to the combination of esters but this isnt necessarily the case. Some suppliers sell it more expensive than other forms of ester bound testosterone. It also takes longer to leave the system as pointed out above so you are having to wait longer to begin another cycle. If you are using 1000mgs/wk then I dont you will notice but on 500mgs/wk it is not sufficient (60mgs prop).

 

[Stew Meat]

There is no difference between ANY testosterone product outside of release periods. It doesn't matter if you have test cyp, test prop, or sust (a cocktail of esters), it is the same shit. It doesn't matter if you have vet grade, human grade, or fish grade, testosterone is testosterone and the ester is not going to change the grade.

I hate seeing people who don't know their ass from their elbow trying to tell others how one testosterone has less sides than another or one gives better gains... ALL TESTOSTERONE IS THE SAME. Now, don't get me wrong, since propinate has a smaller molecular weight, it has more testosterone per ml, but the test in test prop. is the same shit as the test in Sust or Enthanate. The ester DOES NOT CHANGE THE PROPERTIES. AND YOU WILL NOT GET LESS SIDE EFFECTS WITH SUSTONON.

You will get gains from ANY testosterone that you inject (because it is all the same). However, Sustonon has a blend of esters. ALL of these esters start to be broken down by esterase enzymes at exactly the same time... seconds after an injection. Sustonon has prop which is broken down very fast... the rest of the esters will stay in the system for long periods of time.... the deconate/undeconate in sust/omna will be in the system for well over a month. This has a cumalitive effect. The prop leaves the system in a few days, so sust must be injected EOD for best results -best results result from even blood levels.
HOWEVER, there is a cummilative effect from the slow breakdown of the long esters. After a 10 week cycle of sustonon, you'll have elevated testosterone levels for two months post cycle. Since all of this synthetic test hasn't left the system yet, it gives the uneducated user an illusion that he has kept more of his gains from the sustonon. But actually, he's probably going to loose all of his gains within the next six months because the sustonon has suppressed his HPTA for so long that it takes months to recover and begin producing natural testosterone.

All testosterone is equal, but sustonon is the worst combination esters that one could use if his goal is to avoid side effects and get the most from his cycle becuase of the UNEQUAL HORMONE LEVELS. If you want to keep your levels high and even, go with enthanate, cypionate, or propinate. Don't combine them. Sustonon has its place in the medical community, but was not intended for bodybuilding.


-Stew

 

[Realgains]

Now that makes good sence !!! AMEN

 

[Stew Meat]

You must try each compund and see how you react to it. Periond end. There is really nothing else to say.

Testosterone and an ester is NOT a compound. It is not like sodium cloride. The ester is just a delay in the release. Without an ester you have testosterone suspension which hits your system all at one time. EVERYONE WILL REACT EXACTLY THE SAME TO EACH AND EVERY testosterone product. You are not reacting to the ester, you are reacting to the testosterone that is released from the ester.

PS
it's a proven fact that rookies will do very well with 250mg of sustanon every 10 days for 2 months. [/B]

Rookies do well with sustonon as they do with any testosterone. However, if they'd follow in the paths of the experinced vet, they'd get more results with fewer side effects.




-Stew

 

[Hardcore20]

Simple...Sust it overrated and over priced.


over priced my ass were the hell are you guys getting your shit, I pay 3 bucks an amp for omna locally.






wasier

what the hell is a wasier???

 

[bigmac]

[AND YOU WILL NOT GET LESS SIDE EFFECTS WITH SUSTONON.

-Stew [/B][/QUOTE]


IF THERE IS LESS ACTIVE TEST IN YOU AT ANY GIVE TIME IN THEORY HOW WOULD YOU NOT HAVE LESS SIDES ON A MG FOR MG BASIS. NOT TRYING TO ARGUE W/ YOU CAUSE YOUR KNOWLEDGE IS FAR SUPERIOR TO MINE BUT IT JUST DOESNT MAKE SENSE TO ME.


MAC