Steroids = more suicidal??

[vansmack2000]

1/2 the shit in the congress baseball testimonals went over this, and they had families who said their kids killed themselves because of roids, but i just dont see it. I think the kids woulda been suicidal w/o roids anyway.
is there real data to back that up?

 

[Raptorex]

its anectdotal at best.

 

[n0th1ng]

Yeah those kids were more than likely fucked in the head before they ever injected steroids. The parents just cant admit that maybe the reason little johnny blew his fucking brains out was because he was a crazy bastard or because they were shitty parents. Nope.. it must of been the roids.

 

[string_bean00]

Bullshit. Steroids rule.

 

[jackangel]

what's with all this anti-suicide sentiment anyway??

totally unfair if you ask me

 

[wnt2bBeast]

i have a thought-instead of blaming steroids how bout we blame the fucking parents who are just oblivious to their kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if your kid killed himself he had to show signs of depression, isolation etc..lets not blame what caused that to occur but how do you not F'in notice!!!!!!! it doesnt matter if it was dbol that caused it you talk to your kid you find out you see if hes using ANY drugs..you talk you get him help you dont just let him be to work it out on his own..to me that is someone who is a horrible parent and is now blaming something other than himself for his kids problems!!!!!!

 

[GoldenDelicious]

yep. once they take roids and still look like shit, theres nothing left to blame but yourself, so you end the misery

anyway i love this steroids being illegal business. L-O-V-E it (being a natty does taht )

 

[AristotleBC]

Interesting to see how you reason things out GD. One might think you'd be more for steroids being legal for reasons of principle .

 

[GoldenDelicious]

Interesting to see how you reason things out GD. One might think you'd be more for steroids being legal for reasons of principle .

i am, but i figured id stir people a little

 

[The Shadow]

Take your basic personailty



ok





magnify that by a magnitude of 20




...thats how gear affects you

 

[wnt2bBeast]

Take your basic personailty



ok





magnify that by a magnitude of 20




...thats how gear affects you

completely disagree with that....

 

[justyxxxx]

Basically they say the same thing about Accutane - causes suicidal tendencies, yadda, yadda, yadda. I took both and didn't have any, the California governor took steroids and is living strong . . .

You'll always hear a few cases about virtually anything, but that doesn't mean it's so.

 

[justyxxxx]

completely disagree with that....

From my experience, I'd have to disagree with his statement as well. It would no doubt depend on the drug, on the amount of the drug, the individual user, etc.

 

[The Shadow]

completely disagree with that....

why do you say that??


Its the same anaology that listening to Oxxy will cause to to kill your parents...gear will not bring out tendencies that arent already there

 

[CFZB]

did you guys hear bush had meetings with oil corporations months before sept.11 even happened.

I dont watch T.V.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

why do you say that??


Its the same anaology that listening to Oxxy will cause to to kill your parents...gear will not bring out tendencies that arent already there

i see the ozzy analogy
and i agree with what you just said..if your an overly aggressive asshole and then take gear theres a fairly high chance you will be even more of an agressive asshole.. except tren or halo which may increase aggression in even normal tempered people..

i disagree with what you first said as far as a blanket statement..i have a friend who is rather normal even tempered most of the time and gets even mellower sometimes when on..so i dont think you can say you magnify your original personality by "x" amount...

roid rage is a myth there are those that think they are supposed to have and are just acting/showing off and then there are those who really are assholes

 

[rao740]

I agree ur temper at anytime use roids as a cop out is bullshit have afriend say that shit to me after i got into a fight becasue if him i took 20 stitches to head fuck him fuck that u know how to control urself. anll aged yes roid rage a myth so soemone has an excuse becaseu they drank too uch or whatever grow up if u so call ragee u might wnat to rethink shooting sauce into ur body.
rao740

 

[Ulcasterdropout]

I have alot more mood swings on gear.

 

[c-sharp minor]

Shadow is correct.

Gear amplifies/intesifies emotions that you feel. Good or bad.

At least, that is the theory.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

Shadow is correct.

Gear amplifies/intesifies emotions that you feel. Good or bad.

At least, that is the theory.

rather than deal with theory how about some real world facts!!!!

 

[The Shadow]

rather than deal with theory how about some real world facts!!!!

....Like I stated before....I dont know of ANYONE who suddenly turns into an asshole after some dbol, who wasnt an asshole to begin with


whatever

 

[Whiskey]

why do you say that??


Its the same anaology that listening to Oxxy will cause to to kill your parents...gear will not bring out tendencies that arent already there

Damn good point shadow!! I agree wholeheartedly on that

Whiskey

 

[The Shadow]

I'm sure there are exceptions to that like anything

 

[jerseyart]

Yeah those kids were more than likely fucked in the head before they ever injected steroids. The parents just cant admit that maybe the reason little johnny blew his fucking brains out was because he was a crazy bastard or because they were shitty parents. Nope.. it must of been the roids.

Yeah, I question the sampling in most cases, but especially when the "authorities" are grieving parents.

Much like "my kid was never bad until...(insert parental excuse to emotionally deal with what couldn't just be a bad kid)


In any case I think roids in general tend to be used in greater numbers (excluding athletes) by people who already have a higher degree of insecurity than the general public.

Fuck most people wouldnt spend near as much time in the gym as people here, and no offense intended, but a lot of peeps here are overcompensating for other issues.


My point is simply that if one did a study and found that more people who attend weight watchers commit suicide than the general public, it might be true, but would largely be besides the point. Weight watchers isnt killing them

 

[wnt2bBeast]

....Like I stated before....I dont know of ANYONE who suddenly turns into an asshole after some dbol, who wasnt an asshole to begin with


whatever

dont get your little panties in a bunch

your original statement was that gear magnifies your persoanlity by some "factor"...im telling you thats not true in some of the cases that i have observed..there have been no change and some have actually felt better and more positive..go figure

 

[The Shadow]

dont get your little panties in a bunch

excuse me......WTF is your problem??


did you not read my statement about there being exceptions??


You must be on right now.....

 

[LoneTree]

1/2 the shit in the congress baseball testimonals went over this, and they had families who said their kids killed themselves because of roids, but i just dont see it. I think the kids woulda been suicidal w/o roids anyway.
is there real data to back that up?

Suicide is the second most common cause of death in teenagers after accidents.
But steroids do have psychological effects. They always make me nervous and cause difficulty in sleeping.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

excuse me......WTF is your problem??


did you not read my statement about there being exceptions??


You must be on right now.....

nope not in the last 10 months
your first statement didnt make any exceptions