Steroids and Accutane

[doubles1]

Currently I am in my 14th week of accutane treatment it is going fairly well I am on my maximum dose from my doc (200mg/day) and the results aren't what I expected but decent as I said...I have mild acne on my back and my face is alrite...But I've been putting off my cycle for a while now because of the treatment...How will juicing affect my glands and recovery of the treatment will it hasten it/make it longer/or have no effect at all???

what do you guys reccomend and what would the affects of the test be on my liver values???

Thanks,

Dankdukes

 

[builtbc83]

just outaa curiousity what is ur weight? 200mg is a LOT of accutane lol

 

[FREAKZILLA1]

ISOTREX gel (accutane gel) and 2% nizoral on the affected areas will work wonders. and is all topical.

 

[Dark_Stalker]

Thats a tough question, the gear or clomid will almost surely poduce some acne... I know some people here does both accutane treatment and cycles but I wouldnt do that, accutane alone is harsh on the liver so dong gear with it isnt too good.

I would go with Freak on this one, dorp accutane if you really want to do a cycle and take topical meds.

Good luke !

 

[doubles1]

im bout 225

 

[AAAColumbo]

ISOTREX gel (accutane gel) and 2% nizoral on the affected areas will work wonders. and is all topical.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't ISOTREX Gel not-available in the U.S.....you would have to purchase it from a foreign source...does that seem about right ? I asked my doc about the gel at one point, and she had no idea...she even looked in the "big" book of drugs

 

[Riker29]

Do NOT stop and "like take something else".

DO the whole regimen. THAT is the way to do accutane.

Now I dont think you would have a huge problem as long as you are not doing many orals in a cycle, this would add to liver stresses. Also, I would be sure to get regular blood tests to check lipid profiles and all. Accutane will stress that enough on its own - and if you take AS, that may get worse.

But for god's sake - you have goive 14 weeks already, finish the full Accutane cycle of 4-6 months. Its worth it and THATs the way to get the LONG term effects of Accutane.

By the way, Accutane works more dramtically for people wih worse acne, the ones with the deep cysctic kid. If you acne is relatively mild it may take a bit long to see teh poistive effects.

Keep going! Dont "substitute:" some topical stuff, I dont care WHAT it is, it ios NOT the same., You are NOW running a systemic treament which wil help to eliminate (or at least GREATLY reduce) your acne problems FOREVER! All topicals are versions of doing like clearasil or whatever. Go go - finish the regimen!

 

[FREAKZILLA1]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't ISOTREX Gel not-available in the U.S.....you would have to purchase it from a foreign source...does that seem about right ? I asked my doc about the gel at one point, and she had no idea...she even looked in the "big" book of drugs

mastersmarketing carries it. they are UK based. you can import a 3 month supply of it legally. done it twice.

 

[FREAKZILLA1]

Do NOT stop and "like take something else".

DO the whole regimen. THAT is the way to do accutane.

Now I dont think you would have a huge problem as long as you are not doing many orals in a cycle, this would add to liver stresses. Also, I would be sure to get regular blood tests to check lipid profiles and all. Accutane will stress that enough on its own - and if you take AS, that may get worse.

But for god's sake - you have goive 14 weeks already, finish the full Accutane cycle of 4-6 months. Its worth it and THATs the way to get the LONG term effects of Accutane.

By the way, Accutane works more dramtically for people wih worse acne, the ones with the deep cysctic kid. If you acne is relatively mild it may take a bit long to see teh poistive effects.

Keep going! Dont "substitute:" some topical stuff, I dont care WHAT it is, it ios NOT the same., You are NOW running a systemic treament which wil help to eliminate (or at least GREATLY reduce) your acne problems FOREVER! All topicals are versions of doing like clearasil or whatever. Go go - finish the regimen!

dude get the dildo out your ass and calm down. i gave the guy options to a liver toxic compound he really doesnt need to use. fucken-a.

 

[Riker29]

dude get the dildo out your ass and calm down. i gave the guy options to a liver toxic compound he really doesnt need to use. fucken-a.

Nice attitude.

Who said he did not really need to use Accutane? Sounds to me like he decided to maybe solve hios acne problem forever, and is already well on his way to doing that. My suggestion was that he stick with that plan, and get real results.

Using Accutane the REAL way, for the full regimen, provides a SYSTEMIC soultion to the problem that will have long-term benefits. He may only have to maybe 3-4 more weeks for such a benefit. Stopping now, and using some topical solution, is a waste of time and effort.

I say if you start something, finish it, if you are going to do something, do it right.

 

[doubles1]

yo freak chill out...


ya riker im not going to stop no matter what (the treatment that is)........also i am running no orals (as i do not like oral compounds) and am only running test and then fina 7 weeks later....

so pretty much how is the test going to affect how well the accutane gets rid of my acne and how should it affect my liver values the test that is...

dankdukes

 

[FREAKZILLA1]

Nice attitude.

Who said he did not really need to use Accutane? Sounds to me like he decided to maybe solve hios acne problem forever, and is already well on his way to doing that. My suggestion was that he stick with that plan, and get real results.

Using Accutane the REAL way, for the full regimen, provides a SYSTEMIC soultion to the problem that will have long-term benefits. He may only have to maybe 3-4 more weeks for such a benefit. Stopping now, and using some topical solution, is a waste of time and effort.

I say if you start something, finish it, if you are going to do something, do it right.

sorry but the topical nizoral and accutane gel got rid of acne (bad!) and red spots (like from the heat) on my arms. if the oral route gets rid of it for good (never heard of that) then go for it by all means. this topical method works fine for me while on cycle. while natural i really have no acne problem at all. on cycle its mainly only my arms. so i choose topical. this board is here to give advice not go off the hinges hollaring about you must adhere to the oral administration or your dick will fall off! lol. its up to him in the end, these are all opinions.

 

[Riker29]

Thats my point.

If done correctly, proper dose, for a long enough period of time, for many people a full Accutane regimen WILL get rid of acne forever.

Yeah, there are some exceptions but for most men, the above is true.

Many people are not aware of this, of how Accutane may have this effect. Too many people have used it as sort of a "fix it now" remedy - which is not its real purpose (teh oral version that is). Becuase of that, many people are not aware of this method of taking it and getting this truet life-long benefit.

The poster is SO close to being at that level, I would hate to see the dude give it up at this point.

My comments were not a slam at anyone at all, just a passionate argument that this guy is already most of the way towards, in all likelyhood, having his problems being solved forever, and I think its in his interest that he make an informed choice.

 

[FREAKZILLA1]

Thats my point.

If done correctly, proper dose, for a long enough period of time, for many people a full Accutane regimen WILL get rid of acne forever.

Yeah, there are some exceptions but for most men, the above is true.

Many people are not aware of this, of how Accutane may have this effect. Too many people have used it as sort of a "fix it now" remedy - which is not its real purpose (teh oral version that is). Becuase of that, many people are not aware of this method of taking it and getting this truet life-long benefit.

The poster is SO close to being at that level, I would hate to see the dude give it up at this point.

My comments were not a slam at anyone at all, just a passionate argument that this guy is already most of the way towards, in all likelyhood, having his problems being solved forever, and I think its in his interest that he make an informed choice.

well since it was just a passionate argument, i can't argue with that. gotta help a brotha out.

 

[AAAColumbo]

mastersmarketing carries it. they are UK based. you can import a 3 month supply of it legally. done it twice.

UK...sweet, I'll have to look into bro....thanks for the info

 

[FREAKZILLA1]

UK...sweet, I'll have to look into bro....thanks for the info

they ship faster than some domestics too. like a business week. that was before wartime customs though....so who knows now.

 

[Bigbillybear]

Bro,

You sure your taking 200mgs a day? I have taken 2 40mg caps a day and my weight averages 250 to 260... At 80mgs a day it dries the heck out of my skin, eyes, lips, mouth, etc etc... Its the worse feeling I have had lol I have had my skin cracking and my lips bleeding day after day, now thats not a pretty site... No wonder my wife wouldnt kiss me often... Anyway Its really tough stuff on your body and most wouldnt recommend it with a cycle however muscle heads like we are we tend to do things that people tell us not to lol... The dermatologist I was under said it was last resort medication because of what it does to your system while you are on it, but he said it was almost always effective and it was for me... After I had tried numerous things from antibiotics to creams and lotions nothing worked and I had it probably the worse it could have been lol... Yeah that bad... So accutane does work wonders and it has kept it at bay...

BBB

 

[ClenAche]

i can agree w/ riker29 and bigbillybear. i've never heard off 200mgs/day--that's an f-load. i've looked at the pdr and i'm pretty sure i've never seen that dose. i thougt the max was 80, but i will admit it's been like 97 since i've been dosed personaly. Also, for most it works forever, but others it only works for a few years then returns. if u really won't some other opinions, research my name or pm me, i can tell u more than u ever wanted to know. otherwise pursue your own blind course. either way i wish u the best of luck--genuinely!

 

[sausage]

damn 200 mg's is a lot i weigh 210 an i take 80 mg's. the most i ever heard of is 120mg's 200 is crazy.

 

[poantrex]

I think many of you don't know what you're talking about regarding accutane dosing

The recommended dosage range for Accutane is 0.5 to 2 milligrams per 2.2 pounds of body weight, divided into 2 doses daily, for 15 to 20 weeks. The usual starting dose is 0.5 to 1 milligram per 2.2 pounds per day.People whose disease is very severe or is primarily on the body may have to take up to the maximum recommended dose.

 

[Bigbillybear]

Bro,

Get a clue... so many in here have taken the stuff and this is their answers so why one person goes against the flow and wants to blow out their liver go ahead but dont pass your info on to others so they can be like you!!! You say we dont have a clue, hummm I had to go to an advanced dermatologist and that was his dosage to me at 250lbs and he started me off at 40mgs which did damn good, I only went to 80mgs the last month so I know from experience...

BBB

 

[doubles1]

quick bump im going to respond later....

danks

 

[Fonz]

200mg/day?

Holy shit......never seen anyone take that much ever.

Fonz

 

[poantrex]

Bro,

Get a clue... so many in here have taken the stuff and this is their answers so why one person goes against the flow and wants to blow out their liver go ahead but dont pass your info on to others so they can be like you!!! You say we dont have a clue, hummm I had to go to an advanced dermatologist and that was his dosage to me at 250lbs and he started me off at 40mgs which did damn good, I only went to 80mgs the last month so I know from experience...

BBB

READ MY POST, you illiterate jackass. I'm essentially agreeing with you that 200 mg is way too much.

 

[poantrex]

they ship faster than some domestics too. like a business week. that was before wartime customs though....so who knows now.

Got a shipment from them in 4 days, once.

Highly recommended

 

[Bigbillybear]

Bro,

I did read your post you ass hole and the first thing I read is!!!

"I think many of you don't know what you're talking about regarding accutane dosing"

To me this means if majority are saying that 200mgs is to much then you are saying we dont know what we are talking about you dip shit... So learn to explain yourself better before you go insulting someone...

BBB

And you call me illetarate and dont even spell it right?

 

[ambition]

masters mktg

Has anyone tried to order from masters in the past few days? I keep getting an error when I click submit form for online ordering.

ambition

 

[poantrex]

Bro,


And you call me illetarate and dont even spell it right?

Pfft. Check your dictionary.

 

[doubles1]

HEY to answer your question I started out at 100mg's one red and 2 yellows and now im up to 2 yellows in the mornin and 3 yellows at nite...its what my doctor derm said...200 mg is the max for my weight it really isn't uncommon your dosages are low that is all...200 i dont even have that many bad sides from it....

 

[poantrex]

Okay, you know it all, we're all wrong.

When you realize that it takes a few weeks to feel the effects of accutane, you'll realize what we were talking about. 200mg is way too fucking much.

 

[Bigbillybear]

Bro,

I also want to add that Cholesterol is raised significantly while taking this med, so much I had a bud of mine have his raised to levels that would be an imediate threat... I have to take Lipitor for my Cholesterol anyway and my levels on accutane where over 250 so that is one major side effect to watch out...

Poantrex,

Im an the first to admit he was wrong lol I use the damn google search engine to spell check, hummm maybe I am illiterate lol...

Take care bros

BBB

 

[doubles1]

hey poan chill out...ive been on for almost 4 months now and no bad blood tests everythings in normal range....so i think i'll listen to my doc who has given this to 100's of people and not some random person on the internet...

thanks bud,

just letting everyone else know my ordeal...

dankdukes

 

[AlbinoAssassin]

I am going to the dermatologist in about an hour and a half and that was thinking about asking him for a script for accutane. I see him at the gym so I think he knows a little about gear. I am planning on telling him that I am doing my first cycle in a couple of weeks, and hopefully he will help me out. After reading this stuff I don't know if I should take it while I'm on. I am on tetracycline right now at 500mg's 2 times a day. I actually only take it once because you are supposed to take it two hours after your last meal and 1 hour before your next meal. I never go 3 waking hours without eating, so I take it in the middle of the night. While on cycle I definitely don't want to go 3 hours without eating. Hopefully, he can atleast give me something I can take with food. Any advice from the experienced would be greatly appreciated. BTW, I don't have real bad skin, it's in check.

 

[poantrex]

First of all, taking accutane while "on" is incredibly stupid. In addition, accutane should NEVER be your first choice for acne treatment - the side effects are very, very harsh and should not be taken lightly. It will dry your skin and make it look worse for the first couple of months, make you very lethargic, and totally screw up your lipid profiles. If you want a drug just to treat gear acne, accutane is not the answer.

There are lighter drugs out there that work just fine, try bactrim.

 

[AlbinoAssassin]

Thanks Poantrex! Like I said I am on tetracycline right now and my skin is pretty clear and that is taking half the recommended dosage. Honestly I just want to find something I can take with food, so I can actually run it as prescribed. I am aware how harsh the accutane is, I have done a lot of searches on it. I'll ask him about the Bactrim, thanks man!

 

[Bigbillybear]

Bro,

Bactrim and tetracycline are both antibiotics... Tetracycline is used more commonly for acne while Bactrim is more commonly used for Bladder infections etc (When it comes to drugs I have the best source in town, my wife lol 8 years at the pharmacy)... I have used Tetracycline with ok to poor results but again my case was very bad... I do agree with Poan about accutane shouldnt be just used because of some bumps, It is normally the last resort... I personally believe its not as bad as most say but it has to be the person im sure... For me it dried me up like a prune lol and did elevate my cholestrol but my other blood results came back fine after 2 months on, My cholestrol was elevated even ON lipitor so be careful... I didnt take it with gear as it may be to much stress on the body (I actually wouldnt take it with gear) I feel you should wait till after the cycle if you plan to take it and use maybe Tetracycline (antibiotic) or some topical meds...

Poan and by reading your posts im not sure you want to come off that way but its just the way your write that makes people think you are against them? Oh well to each his own...

Take care bro

BBB

 

[ClenAche]

sounds to me like bigbillybear knows his shit--i'm inclined to agree w/ him again. another thing to consider is that anitibiotics are designed to be taken short term--that's not always the best thing for acne, which may take many months or years to treat. also, u build anti-bodies to the various anti-biotics--which, when u may need those drugs to treat some other disease, they will no longer work. i'm about burned out on every anti-biotic, just something else to think about.

 

[sausage]

how long have you guys had to stay on accutane?I have been on for a little over 2 months now and i cant wait to get off this shit sucks.

 

[poantrex]

Bactrim is the strongest and harshest antibiotic, and is much more potent than doxycycline and tetracycline. I've taken it for periods of 6-8 months without becoming immune to it, whereas i become unresponsive to tetra within 1 month. Tetra also seems to cause very bad discoloration of the teeth.

 

[ClenAche]

dankduke, just a little encouragement. i never really saw significant clearing until just after month 4 (about wk 17). thats when it really seemed to kick in for me. so if you're not satisfied yet, i'm sure its just around the corner.

 

[drgoodbody]

I use doxycycline (doryx) at 100mg ED, along with presciption topical 8% Benzoyl peroxide and differin (adapalene) gel. It does alright for my back acne, but I'm not on right now. My dermatologist also recommended accutane, but I am not planning to do it as I like to cycle and don't want to stop for the 5 months of treatment.

DrG

PS: Yes, it totally fucks your lipid profile and has all the other drying sides noted.

 

[Riker29]

how long have you guys had to stay on accutane?I have been on for a little over 2 months now and i cant wait to get off this shit sucks.

At least a good 4 months straight.