sterilizing ** injectables

[cbeaks]

I plan on never using ** injectables again because of the infection I recently got. I think his injectables are as potent as he claims but I just don't trust his sterilization process and the huge lumps they leave. His prices can't be beat. Is there anyway to order a large batch of injectables and do some kind of sterilization myself and also make it so that I don't have a large lump after every injection? - cbeaks

 

[Latamier]

I dont know if I would try sterilizing them, I think it might destroy some of the active ingredients. Some people pasteurize their gear, especialle their homemade fina. Do a search and you will find the info you need.

 

[MadCow1]

animalkits.be

his forum contains a lot of information available by searching. Lots of guys have tried to make the injects more usable.

Personally - I'd spend more money. It's just not worth it.

 

[Realgains]

I dont know if I would try sterilizing them, I think it might destroy some of the active ingredients. Some people pasteurize their gear, especialle their homemade fina. Do a search and you will find the info you need.

Pasturization = sterilization bro...same thing. I think what you meant to say was do not bake gear at high heat.
160 degrees for 30 minutes will kill all the bacteria that may be present. Take some air out of the vilas and put them in a water bath at 160 degree F ...use a candy thermometer $3.....an electric frying pan filled with water works well.

 

[HansNZ]

It's easy to filter gear. Get a filter next time you get your syringes. You can also load IP's gear into a syringe and put it in boiling water for a while just before you inject it. The filtering and boiling will get rid of impurities and bacteria.

Don't filter or boil it until you use it. I think a lot of people are heating IP's gear all at once and storing it. The result is that the alcohol and preservatives in it are removed so that it goes bad.

 

[cbeaks]

Thanks for the help. I know it seems like a hassle trying to sterilize something but planning for the future the prices on the large jugs are extremely cheap I'm just not sure if it would be possible to insure sterility. - cbeaks

 

[cbeaks]

I agree with what you guys are saying. I got an infection from one of his injectables recently. I was just curious if anybody knew of a way to insure sterility. If it isn't possible then I just won't get any more ** injectables but it is also difficult for me to find a good source because I know how touchy of a subject source posting is. - cbeaks

 

[jboldman]

Go to animals site and buy some sterile vials, I believe he also sells filters. If you filter his injectables they will be sterile. There are many many people who have used his gear and made great gains( i am one of them) with no problems. It is sad when you hear people posting that his stuff does not work when it is clearly is not true. True enough, if you have the money, US made pharmaceuticals would be the way to go, I do not chose to spend my money that way since IP's sutff has always worked great for me and many many others. Try posting this question over on Meso where the responses are a little more thought out and positive. There are several effective ways that you can take advantage of IPs prices and still preserve your health. BTW, IP frequently posts over there and answers questions. BTW, was it an infection or irratation?

jb

I agree with what you guys are saying. I got an infection from one of his injectables recently. I was just curious if anybody knew of a way to insure sterility. If it isn't possible then I just won't get any more ** injectables but it is also difficult for me to find a good source because I know how touchy of a subject source posting is. - cbeaks

 

[HansNZ]

I agree with jboldman.

I have used IP's stuff for years with good results and no infections. I will agree that he is defintely an asshole and totally unprofessional in his behaviour - but ultimately it is muscle growth I want, so that doesn't matter.

I think people do not follow his sterilisation instructions, and often inject his stuff straight from the container (which he himself says not to do).

If you get yourself a filter and boil his gear you should have no probs.

Ultimately it's all about packaging. Just because something comes in a pretty little container and looks all professional doesn't mean it will work better. Packaging is just propaganda designed to make something look good. I've had friends get infections from pharmaceutical grade and packaged gear.

 

[cbeaks]

I definitely had an infection. I went to the emergency room and got antiobiotics for it. - cbeaks

 

[HansNZ]

I definitely had an infection. I went to the emergency room and got antiobiotics for it. - cbeaks

I'm sure you did get an infection. What I am saying is treat the gear correctly and you'll be fine.

 

[MadCow1]

I'm sure you did get an infection. What I am saying is treat the gear correctly and you'll be fine.

I also got an infection needing antibiotics.

After first infection I then heat sterilized the gear ran ran it through a .2 micron filter into new sterile vials. Guess what - very next injection resulted in infection again. Luckily I bought enough antiB's to avoid another hospital visit.

I am not some newbie learning how to inject and in the previous decade I have had a single case of cellulitis before that was minor and cleared on its own. No other problems ever. The bottle was from a professional and very respected remailer so not direct.

I don't know what caused it but this was more than enough to put me off. But I've used every product imaginable with no problem - oh yeah, not to mention the huge lumps that shit produces.

 

[cbeaks]

Even if I wouldn't get an infection I can't stand the huge lumps when I am injecting every day with short acting injectables. - cbeaks

 

[HansNZ]

The only product of IP's that I have bought in the last year is some Fina. That has been fine, but all these posts have me wondering whether IP is being less cautious in manufacturing his products in recent times.

I have got a lump (but not an infection from his stuff). I injected it straight without filtering it and removing the BA. I haven't had a problem since I started being more cautious.

 

[Quadsweep]

Pasturization = sterilization bro...same thing. I think what you meant to say was do not bake gear at high heat.
160 degrees for 30 minutes will kill all the bacteria that may be present. Take some air out of the vilas and put them in a water bath at 160 degree F ...use a candy thermometer $3.....an electric frying pan filled with water works well.

Real beat me to it! Personally I would just buy Human or legit vet grade gear but if you use said product this is what i would do.

Peace, Quad

 

[BigRed54]

Don't filter or boil it until you use it. I think a lot of people are heating IP's gear all at once and storing it. The result is that the alcohol and preservatives in it are removed so that it goes bad.

So how long would it take for it to go bad if baked? I recently baked all my IP and Mex gear a few wks back. Cause EVERYTIME i inject either of them i would run a fever and felt lke shit EVERYTIME i injected. And i baked it and now the IP I'm hiting doesn't bother me. But the Mexi gear when i hit that i don't get fevers... but a few hours later after injecting i get VERY TIRED and sleepy. And I can't actually work out those days. Well I quite taking the Brovel Prop that was making me feel that way. But what i don't understand is why after i baked it that it made me feel that way? Did it go bad when i baked it? I heard it was ok to bake cause it was just killing the bacteria and it still doens't change the structure. So you think my Prop went bad? Cause i got 3 fucking bottles of this shit and i can't take it cause I'm passed out 3 hrs after injecting.

 

[nooleaph]

Everyone says he says somthing diff.... he personally told me
"Draw and Inject" the amount of alcohol keeps it sterile, yet thats what makes it hurt so bad. I've treid several methods to sterilizing it. Mostly heating it in different ways. The only "real" way is to run it through a serynge filter into a class vial then baking it. But after buying those materials and doign the process its about the same cost as vet grade gear so mine as well go with that. Besides who wants to wait 2-3 months to get his shit!?!? His products do work great tho, im not gonna lie about that. To tell you the truth I rarley have worked out the past 2-1/2 weeks and have gained 10 pounds! no joke. Werid thing is, is each muscle that I inject blows up HUGE then stays that way. I seriously think y right cheek is larger now. It is in fact, my girl can vouche for that. Well regardless too much pain for me, new shipment of organon sust, and ttokkyo deca comin in... in through with IP. I am gonna order some xanax from him though. but no more injectables!

 

[HansNZ]

So how long would it take for it to go bad if baked? I recently baked all my IP and Mex gear a few wks back. Cause EVERYTIME i inject either of them i would run a fever and felt lke shit EVERYTIME i injected. And i baked it and now the IP I'm hiting doesn't bother me. But the Mexi gear when i hit that i don't get fevers... but a few hours later after injecting i get VERY TIRED and sleepy. And I can't actually work out those days. Well I quite taking the Brovel Prop that was making me feel that way. But what i don't understand is why after i baked it that it made me feel that way? Did it go bad when i baked it? I heard it was ok to bake cause it was just killing the bacteria and it still doens't change the structure. So you think my Prop went bad? Cause i got 3 fucking bottles of this shit and i can't take it cause I'm passed out 3 hrs after injecting.

IP's stuff is full of prservatives and alcohol. That is why it hurts when you inject it. I filter and boil a few doses at a time. This way the preservatives remain in the main container keeping it sterile.

I prepare a couple of weeks worth of injectables at a time, then load it into syringes. I usually dilute the gear with sesame oil, let the alcohol in the gear mix with and sterilise the sesame oil and then filter the mix. I boil the syringe I am about to inject just before I use it to sterilise it and allow the remaining alcohol to evaporate. No pain, no infections, no lumps this way.

 

[Latamier]

Most of all i will debate/argue a thread for months if I think somebody is going to make a mistake that might hurt them or their health....I'm not trying to argue with you bro....just trying to get you to think. Its very true that I don't like IP or his gear and I think he is an asshole. I am not trying to cause him to lose business; I'm just trying to keep people from getting infections and NO results from their cycle. We are all brothers here and nobody wants to see anything bad happen to another person.....Its your life its your deciscion. that's just my .02

Well put Johnboy! Another option is to buy the filter needles.

 

[MadCow1]

Most of all i will debate/argue a thread for months if I think somebody is going to make a mistake that might hurt them or their health....I'm not trying to argue with you bro....just trying to get you to think. Its very true that I don't like IP or his gear and I think he is an asshole. I am not trying to cause him to lose business; I'm just trying to keep people from getting infections and NO results from their cycle. We are all brothers here and nobody wants to see anything bad happen to another person.....Its your life its your deciscion. that's just my .02

Well put Johnboy! Another option is to buy the filter needles.

Although 2 infections caused me to cut the cycle short after beginning. I will say that the gear seemed accruately dosed and I noticed the test very quickly as well as the theraputic effects of deca on my knee after the first week. I wouldn't say it produces NO results at all but results will be affected by pain, lumps, and the ability to deal with possible infection.