Stereotypes, balme and denial... WOW!

[marvelous54]

How many of you have seen the story of Rob Garibaldi, the former USC baseball player that shot his self (this is an old story)? It is a sad story and I wouldn't want it to happen to any family but the spin on this story is ridiculous.

First of all the coaches get the blame for his starting to juice because they told him he needed to put on about 20 lbs to go to the next level. The kid was 6ft tall and weighed 165 lbs but his parents say he couldn't gain weight naturally, so it was the coaches fault. I see college athletes(first hand) every year put on that kind of weight. These kids are in their natty prime, if they eat and lift they will gain.

Secondly they ask who his hero was, of course the answer was Barry Bonds. The intent there is quite obvious.

Then they point to all the roid rage and depression as the fault of the AAS. The story points to other cases of kids that were juicing committing suicide. All of the families blame the coaches for recommending the kids gain weight. One is "working hard" to have laws passed that would require mandatory testing at all levels (including HS) and he wants coaches to be held accountable for running steroid-free programs.

I don't want to sound heartless but it is absolutely ridiculous the way most people in this country look to blame someone for everything that goes wrong in their lives. Forget all of the 'roid stereotypes they make, how do you make the leap that coaches should be responsible for what your child does away from the field? None of these kids got their gear from a coach or were injected by a coach. They all kept their gear at their house, injected away from the field and killed themselves in their own house, yet it was the coach's fault (1) because he reccomended putting on weight and (2) because he didn't recognize the "change in behavior."

Typical spin.

 

[dabuffguy]

The suicide rate among the non-steroid-using population is a significantly HIGHER % than the steroid-using population.

What an amazing discovery!



Plain and simple, steroids do not make people kill themselves or kill other people nor do steroids temselves kill people. That kid would have eventually killed himself if he hadn't used steroids anyways.


For someone who has been suicidal in the past, I can understand perfectly the emotional things that steroids can do, and to be honest, I felt better about myself after using them and ever since I have been big and solid I haven't felt like doing that even once.


Cigarrettes kill smokers and victims of 2nd hand smoke 10,000's of times a year, and steroids 0 times. Yet, cigarettes and totally acepted in society and deemed "okay" by most people.

This country is completely upside down on the issue.

 

[big bomber]

yeah take a look at "bigger, stronger, faster" it will tell u the exact same story about those boys...btw great movie and i recommend everyone to watch it whether u have a knowledge about gear or not..pretty informative documentary

 

[marvelous54]

I wonder if it ever crossed their parents minds that the kids were already depressed/dissatisfied with themselves in one way or another. The kids wanted to take the easiest path to acheive their goals. They based their whole lives around a specific goal (being a professional athlete) and when it became very real to them that they just were not good enough athletes the depression just got worse. The problem with "kids" and gear is they think it's a magic pill that makes you a super athlete. In reality guys like Barry Bonds are already amazing athletes and the gear just helped them hone their skills to elite status. The truth is if you need gear just to get you to the level to be good enough to make it into a pro league you're going to have a very short lived career or you may make it as a lifer in the minors.

 

[timtim]

How many of you have seen the story of Rob Garibaldi, the former USC baseball player that shot his self (this is an old story)? It is a sad story and I wouldn't want it to happen to any family but the spin on this story is ridiculous.

First of all the coaches get the blame for his starting to juice because they told him he needed to put on about 20 lbs to go to the next level. The kid was 6ft tall and weighed 165 lbs but his parents say he couldn't gain weight naturally, so it was the coaches fault. I see college athletes(first hand) every year put on that kind of weight. These kids are in their natty prime, if they eat and lift they will gain.

Secondly they ask who his hero was, of course the answer was Barry Bonds. The intent there is quite obvious.

Then they point to all the roid rage and depression as the fault of the AAS. The story points to other cases of kids that were juicing committing suicide. All of the families blame the coaches for recommending the kids gain weight. One is "working hard" to have laws passed that would require mandatory testing at all levels (including HS) and he wants coaches to be held accountable for running steroid-free programs.

I don't want to sound heartless but it is absolutely ridiculous the way most people in this country look to blame someone for everything that goes wrong in their lives. Forget all of the 'roid stereotypes they make, how do you make the leap that coaches should be responsible for what your child does away from the field? None of these kids got their gear from a coach or were injected by a coach. They all kept their gear at their house, injected away from the field and killed themselves in their own house, yet it was the coach's fault (1) because he reccomended putting on weight and (2) because he didn't recognize the "change in behavior."

Typical spin.

my wife is a teacher. parents try and blame everything on anyone who is involved with their kids but themselves. kid fails a class. its the teachers fault. the fact that the parents were called multiple times, sent letters home, had meetings about the situation means zero. its the blame game and parents always look for the easiest goat to blame. this will continue forever. parents dont even realize they are jumping ship on each other when they point fingers. its america and its everyone elses fault but those who should know. first time i cycled my dad called me on it right away. if the parents want to put their heads in the sand, kids will continue to raise themselves and the results will maintain as they have.

 

[sweed]

The suicide rate among the non-steroid-using population is a significantly HIGHER % than the steroid-using population.

What an amazing discovery!



Plain and simple, steroids do not make people kill themselves or kill other people nor do steroids temselves kill people. That kid would have eventually killed himself if he hadn't used steroids anyways.


For someone who has been suicidal in the past, I can understand perfectly the emotional things that steroids can do, and to be honest, I felt better about myself after using them and ever since I have been big and solid I haven't felt like doing that even once.


Cigarrettes kill smokers and victims of 2nd hand smoke 10,000's of times a year, and steroids 0 times. Yet, cigarettes and totally acepted in society and deemed "okay" by most people.

This country is completely upside down on the issue.

I wouldn't say smoking is deemed ok by the general public. Everyone I knwo that doesn't smoke that has to smell that shit goes " oh that shit smells, get it away from me". BUt I see where you are coming from. If you smoke, well don't smoke next to me, go kill yourself in your house. If you drink, heck ya! have a couple dozen for me! If you smoke weed, pass that shit! You have prescription percocet, give me some of that please! If you do steriods... WTF! are you serious! That shit will kill you! your skin will fall off and you dick will turn into nothing! you need help!
Well I ( and all of EF! ) look 1000 times better than you so whatever fatty, lol. Go smoke another pack.


People don't want to hold themselves accountable. It's easier to blame, but for some reason when you blame youself for something you are less angry and feel better. Kids these days...

 

[-SD-]

The day that steroids become acceptable and legal is going to be a bad day for us who know better.
Think about it.
If everyone had easy access to roids then the level of overall jackedness of the population would increase, no not everyone would look like jay cutler, but it would certainly rise, and the uniqueness and specialness of having more than usual muscle wouldnt be as special anymore, which means everyone here wouldnt be a big deal anymore. And since the majority of bors here polled in that thread stated they used gear for looks, it now becomes important that roids stay as illegal and as stigmatized as possible. You already have your sources and hookups and can obtain gear easily so that aspect shouldnt be a problem.
Its like if you have a PhD then everyone else has a PhD, you=not special or differentiated anymore.