Starting research for first major bulking cycle.

[flyin j]

Hey bro's I have a few questions about my upcoming cycle. It will be my first "major" cycle, i have done 2 8 week test and eq cycles with tremendous success and I want to go to the next level with this next one and follow it up with a cutting cycle several months later. My goals with the cycle are to go from 245 to 255 or 260 and MAINTAIN it, heres the cycle:

D-bol 30mgs daily Wks 1-4 (Pink 5mgs)
Test E 625mgs Wks 1-10 (Iran amps or BD not sure yet)
Deca 300mgs Wks 1-10 (Norma 2ml Vials)

20mgs nolva and cabaser all the way through(this cycle will be 3 months after gyno surgery)

Also like I stated above I would like to maintain at least 260 but if I balloon past that I will throw in some t3 at wks 6-10 just so I dont get out of my range.

PCT:
wks 10 and 11 HCG 1,000ius mon wed fri. then wk12 HCG 500ius mon wed fri.
wks 11,12 clomid 100mgs, then wk 13 50mgs
wks 11,12 nolva 40mgs then 13,14,15 20mgs

My questions about this cycle:

Iam running aromasin with this cycle how should I run it and should I run extra with the d-bol???

How should I run my mid-cycle hcg??

What should I expect from this cycle??

And finally this cycle will be 3 months after gyno surgery so should I be worried about that at all??? (I plan on getting plenty of nolva)

Any input on any aspect of the above statements are greatly appreciated and I will give out as much K as needed, thanks brothas.

Flyin J

 

[darwinmcduck]

How long has it been since your last cycle?

 

[bigmouth2006]

i think its perfect i would drop the nolv. and add liquidex and run it to the end of your clomid and if you have the hcg already run like you have it planned and good luck

 

[flyin j]

How long has it been since your last cycle?

My last cycle was Test E 500mgs and Eq 500mgs for 8 weeks and it ended the last week of july.

 

[Prizz]

i think its perfect i would drop the nolv. and add liquidex and run it to the end of your clomid and if you have the hcg already run like you have it planned and good luck

I agree with adding A dex with the cycle instead of Nolva..... Sure, keep the Nolva on hand in case you get gyno symptoms, but the Adex should prevent that..... Also, too much HCG for a gyno prone person can be bad too..... I don't really think 3000IU's in a week is WAY TOO MUCH, but it might be a bit excessive for a gyno prone person..... You stated youre using Nolva with the HCG, but not in week 10..... So that's 3000iu's of HCG, with no Nolva, Clomid, or Adex? Was that just a typo? or an over site? I would change that if it wasnt.....

rizz

 

[bigmouth2006]

I agree with adding A dex with the cycle instead of Nolva..... Sure, keep the Nolva on hand in case you get gyno symptoms, but the Adex should prevent that..... Also, too much HCG for a gyno prone person can be bad too..... I don't really think 3000IU's in a week is WAY TOO MUCH, but it might be a bit excessive for a gyno prone person..... You stated youre using Nolva with the HCG, but not in week 10..... So that's 3000iu's of HCG, with no Nolva, Clomid, or Adex? Was that just a typo? or an over site? I would change that if it wasnt.....

rizz

i didn't pay attention to the hcg part just that had some my fault

 

[flyin j]

I agree with adding A dex with the cycle instead of Nolva..... Sure, keep the Nolva on hand in case you get gyno symptoms, but the Adex should prevent that..... Also, too much HCG for a gyno prone person can be bad too..... I don't really think 3000IU's in a week is WAY TOO MUCH, but it might be a bit excessive for a gyno prone person..... You stated youre using Nolva with the HCG, but not in week 10..... So that's 3000iu's of HCG, with no Nolva, Clomid, or Adex? Was that just a typo? or an over site? I would change that if it wasnt.....

rizz

I would be running the nolva already in week 10 along with the aromasin cause im running it all the way through but good point I think I will start upping it then, and i have aromasin so wouldnt I run it instead of Adex??

As for the HCG I want to make sure I full recovery and get my natural self up and running again, but as for the gyno you are right but i was just going with the standard protocols ive seen.

Thanks for the input. Keep it coming bro's!!

 

[flyin j]

i think its perfect i would drop the nolv. and add liquidex and run it to the end of your clomid and if you have the hcg already run like you have it planned and good luck

I want to keep the nolva because I want to take no chances on gyno again and I will have aromasin isnt it better than Adex??

 

[flyin j]

My questions about this cycle:

Iam running aromasin with this cycle how should I run it and should I run extra with the d-bol???

How should I run my mid-cycle hcg??

What should I expect from this cycle??

And finally this cycle will be 3 months after gyno surgery so should I be worried about that at all??? (I plan on getting plenty of nolva)
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No one can add any input on these questions??

 

[flyin j]

Bump.

 

[flyin j]

Hey bro's I have a few questions about my upcoming cycle. It will be my first "major" cycle, i have done 2 8 week test and eq cycles with tremendous success and I want to go to the next level with this next one and follow it up with a cutting cycle several months later. My goals with the cycle are to go from 245 to 255 or 260 and MAINTAIN it, heres the cycle:

D-bol 30mgs daily Wks 1-4 (Pink 5mgs)
Test E 625mgs Wks 1-10 (Iran amps or BD not sure yet)
Deca 300mgs Wks 1-10 (Norma 2ml Vials)

20mgs nolva and cabaser all the way through(this cycle will be 3 months after gyno surgery)

Also like I stated above I would like to maintain at least 260 but if I balloon past that I will throw in some t3 at wks 6-10 just so I dont get out of my range.

PCT:
wks 10 and 11 HCG 1,000ius mon wed fri. then wk12 HCG 500ius mon wed fri.
wks 11,12 clomid 100mgs, then wk 13 50mgs
wks 11,12 nolva 40mgs then 13,14,15 20mgs

My questions about this cycle:

Iam running aromasin with this cycle how should I run it and should I run extra with the d-bol???

How should I run my mid-cycle hcg??

What should I expect from this cycle??

And finally this cycle will be 3 months after gyno surgery so should I be worried about that at all??? (I plan on getting plenty of nolva)

Any input on any aspect of the above statements are greatly appreciated and I will give out as much K as needed, thanks brothas.

Flyin J

1 more bump then im done,

No one's ever cycled after gyno surgery??

No one has any experience with aromasin??

No one has ever ran a test deca d-bol cycle??

I also posted these questions on another board and no responses just looking for some good input and advice.

 

[Prizz]

1 more bump then im done,

No one's ever cycled after gyno surgery??

No one has any experience with aromasin??

No one has ever ran a test deca d-bol cycle??

I also posted these questions on another board and no responses just looking for some good input and advice.

Yes, I had gyno surgery and have done cycles since..... I don't really use EXTRA anti estrogens now, just the same amount I used to.... Cycles after your gyno surgery aren't extra dangerous, they are the same as before.... Just run an AI with your cycles, and you'll be fine.....


Aromasin is a good AI, but not sure how effective it is with Dbol.... You might have to up the dose when taking Dbol to avoid estrogen sides..... I'd start with 20mg per day, and judge from there... Might need to go up or down based on sides.....


I think your HCG use is fine, just run some Anti E's with it liked we talked about before....

Did I get it all? Any other questions? Sounds like you know what youre doing bro.... No one can give you exact answers all the time, most of the time you learn from personal expierence, cause we all respond differently to these compounds....

rizz

 

[flyin j]

Yes, I had gyno surgery and have done cycles since..... I don't really use EXTRA anti estrogens now, just the same amount I used to.... Cycles after your gyno surgery aren't extra dangerous, they are the same as before.... Just run an AI with your cycles, and you'll be fine.....


Aromasin is a good AI, but not sure how effective it is with Dbol.... You might have to up the dose when taking Dbol to avoid estrogen sides..... I'd start with 20mg per day, and judge from there... Might need to go up or down based on sides.....


I think your HCG use is fine, just run some Anti E's with it liked we talked about before....

Did I get it all? Any other questions? Sounds like you know what youre doing bro.... No one can give you exact answers all the time, most of the time you learn from personal expierence, cause we all respond differently to these compounds....

rizz

Thanks bro, Iam confident in what im doing I just like to gather others opinions to see if theres anything I missed or anything I can possibly improve on.

 

[flyin j]

You must spread karma around before giving to rizz again.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

post your last cycles and results. think about whether changing a formerly winning low dose formula is a good idea. imo a person doing roids who has experienced great success with a low dose cycle shouldnt change anything until that exact same cycle is proving to be inneffective. many people double or triple their doses, or incorperate new drugs, needlessly. its sill, pointless, and opens the door to a lot of sides. that goes for ancilliary drugs also.

cheers