Starting needto's reversal program - log

[crankbait]

So i contacted needto aboput some existing gyno from an old superdrol cycle and he told me to get some letro, dostnex, forma stanzol and nolva. So i got all the supps but for the last 3 days or so i can not get him to reply to tell me how to start dosing. Hopefully he will see this because i am ready to start! Any suggestions from any of you more experiecned guys on how to dose this while waiting for needto's respose?

I guess i can also use this as a long for the reversal too...once i get started..
thanks

 

[Idobehigh]

Be patient he is very busy he posted something the other day that he is just getting caught up give it a lil time

 

[crankbait]

I figured that he is busy, but still waiting...

 

[crankbait]

Well it's been a week and still no answer from needto. I guess I start with the letro and dostinex. Should I use the forma stanzol also or use after the letro is done?
Someone give some advice because I now have >$300 of suppliments and not guide lines
thanks

 

[NoFatChicks91]

I got gyno from the same thing and ran what he told me with no success. I'm now running letro 2.5 every day with Ralox.

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[crankbait]

and how's that working for you?
what dosing did he have you at when you were running the letro, dostinx and forma?

 

[Kanghawk]

I'm in the same boat as crankbait. Spent >$500 on the chemicals needto told me to buy, and havent been able to get in contact with him for over 2 weeks now. I know he's a busy man and I'm trying to be patient here, but I spent all this money at his behest and on the strength of his immaculate reputation on these forums...but now I feel like I've just been left hanging.

Anyone familiar with his program that might be able to fill us in on how to start dosing? For the record he instructed me to buy:
Forma-Stanzol
T3
Liquid Nolva
Dostinex
Phytoserms-347
Letrol

Thanks to anyone who might be able to help!

 

[OhSoFresh]

Well it's been a week and still no answer from needto. I guess I start with the letro and dostinex. Should I use the forma stanzol also or use after the letro is done?
Someone give some advice because I now have >$300 of suppliments and not guide lines
thanks

hey buddy, have you gotten ahold of needto? I have been going through the same thing with him. he has been very flaky and I am in the exact same situation as you. dont start the program until you get a response from him, but I know how annoying this can be. I bought the same supps and spent a lot of money and have been getting barely any guidance. I am 2.5 months in to the program.

if you really can't wait or he doesnt get back to you in another week let me know and I will shoot you over the stack that he started me with. try to be patient. I know it sucks bro.

 

[crankbait]

Nope still no luck. shoot me a pm with the dosages he has given you. thanks man

 

[Kanghawk]

If you could also PM me that info, it would be awesome. Looks like I'm going to have to wing it as well...

 

[Idobehigh]

Go over to needtobuildmuscleneedtobuildmuscle forum and post over there you guys I don't think he comes on here that much anymore

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[Kanghawk]

After a quick search over there, seems like his last post there was May 9th (my last PM from him here was May 16th). Don't know how often he's browsing over there though, so I'll give it a shot. Thanks idobehigh.

 

[Idobehigh]

Well it is his site/forum I would assume more so over there however I know he was talking about a vacation in another thread so maybe he is taking an extended vacation, my advice would be dont just wing using your reversal wait a little longer don't wanna waste your money you know, or post another thread and ask advice of other people

 

[Kanghawk]

I should rephrase that. When I said "wing it" I meant referencing older posts of his wherein he explain what to take, how much, etc. I'd link to an example, but I dont have enough posts to do so.

 

[NYMan203]

I'm waiting for his response on dosing too, bro. Just got all the supps he told me to get so I'm ready to go and hoping this works. If he gets back to you soon please forward me the dosing instructions if you can and good luck, I freaking hate gyno. Had it since puberty.

 

[Kanghawk]

To be fair, its been about 3 weeks since I've heard from the guy so I have no real faith that he'll be getting back to me at all any time soon...

 

[crankbait]

Me either, looks like ille be starting on my own. I'm going to put together some dosing from other people's threads

 

[ceo]

Letro alone should be enough, followed by a little nolva to help prevent rebound.

Start with 0.5mg of letro the first day and increase the dose by 0.5mg/day until you get to 2.5mg. Continue to stay on 2.5mg until gyno is gone (no more lump). When all gyno is completely gone, taper dose down 0.5mg/day. When you get to 0.5mg/day, begin nolva at 20mg/day, and the next day take one last letro dose of 0.25mg. Stay on nolva at 20mg/day for one week, then go down to 10mg/day for 2 more weeks.

You should be good after that if your letro and nolva (or your liquid research chems, if you went that route) are good. Always remember to run an AI on cycle as well to prevent gyno.

You could also follow up if you feel you need to or want to with either formastanzol, or MHO poppers (both at www.mrsupps.com). Both have AI's in them. One is topical, one is a chewable sublingual.