Starting first cycle, all info appreciated..

[jokerswild]

Background:

25 years old, 5 11" 170lbs,ran cross-country in HS, started lifting in 2000 at a weight of 135lb. Worked out hard for 3 yrs and put on 30 lbs of muscle taking creatine and drinking protein shakes etc. July 4 2003 compressed three lower disks in my back playing volleyball and literally ended my workouts for over a year. I gained at least 5-7lbs of fat and lost ALOT strenght and definition but have started back at the gym, its hard almost like starting over. After a month I'm finally loosened up enough to really start straining and pumping. I have never taken any juice so this will be my first cycle. So far a have the following:

10ml QV deca 300
nolvadex (liquid form)
clomid (liquid form)
trying to get some Dbol tabs

This is the stack I was told to use by an old gym partner who has some experience with roids. At my weight and body type how would you recommend I cycle these goodies? Anything I should watch out for as far as trouble signs or side effects. I'm just trying to be cautious, I don't want to do more harm than good. Any info would be appreciated, thanks..

 

[cornfish]

Hey man, it's good to see you back from your injury. I fractured 2 verts in my back in a head on collision in 2000 and was down for 3 years in a chair so i feel your pain about how hard it is to get back in action.

I can't really offer you any advice on how to structure your current gear but the last part of your post was pretty important i think. I'm pretty much a rookie (i.e. just finishing my research for my first cycle) and it has taken me a very long time to read all the info and feel comfortable with the choice i made for the goals i want to achieve.

I guess my recommendation would be to do some more research. EF has allot of fantastic info for everything out there and if safety is your concern it would be pretty valuable to take a bit more time and hit the books. I only say this so that you feel comfortable with what you want to accomplish and dont' feel like you just have to use the gear you have at hand.

I hope this helps out and it not meant to be a flame, I'm just glad you are back in action and healed up.

-cornfish

 

[Neo22]

Background:

25 years old, 5 11" 170lbs,ran cross-country in HS, started lifting in 2000 at a weight of 135lb. Worked out hard for 3 yrs and put on 30 lbs of muscle taking creatine and drinking protein shakes etc. July 4 2003 compressed three lower disks in my back playing volleyball and literally ended my workouts for over a year. I gained at least 5-7lbs of fat and lost ALOT strenght and definition but have started back at the gym, its hard almost like starting over. After a month I'm finally loosened up enough to really start straining and pumping. I have never taken any juice so this will be my first cycle. So far a have the following:

10ml QV deca 300
nolvadex (liquid form)
clomid (liquid form)
trying to get some Dbol tabs

This is the stack I was told to use by an old gym partner who has some experience with roids. At my weight and body type how would you recommend I cycle these goodies? Anything I should watch out for as far as trouble signs or side effects. I'm just trying to be cautious, I don't want to do more harm than good. Any info would be appreciated, thanks..

If you are going to take deca, throw test into the equation. You really need to read up and search for the drug profiles. But with deca you without test good luck getting it up. How many mg do you plan per week? Dbol is going to bloat you and may or may not cause gyno. You need to really think this over and get your diet in check. WE also need to know your diet.

 

[lund]

what neo22 said run test

 

[jokerswild]

what neo22 said run test

I'm definatley going with Test after all the Deca dick stories I have heard, I'm still wanting to stack it with Dbol at 15-20mgs a week for the first 4 weeks finishing out with 4 more weeks of Test enth. Do you think that is a pretty safe combo? Do I need to run the nolvadex during the cycle or wait and take it with the clomid afterwards? Why the bad karma?

 

[jokerswild]

I'm definatley going with Test after all the Deca dick stories I have heard, I'm still wanting to stack it with Dbol at 15-20mgs a week for the first 4 weeks finishing out with 4 more weeks of Test enth. Do you think that is a pretty safe combo? Do I need to run the nolvadex during the cycle or wait and take it with the clomid afterwards? Why the bad karma?

any comments?

 

[smaller]

Why the bad karma?

probably because your questions can be answered by searching the threads, and it looks like you've done 0 research. It's not a healthy or responsible approach to take when considering the use of steroids.

 

[Neo22]

any comments?

YOu don't need all that shit for a first cycle. Just run test only for 12 weeks(250mg-500mg). If you wish do the dbol for 4-6 weeks. You need to have nolva/clomid and I would personally use HCG during to keep my balls up to shape. Please do as much research as you can.

 

[vandelman]

Hey Joker,

Well bro...everybody has their own opinions.....all I can tell you is about my experience. My first cycle was 4 weeks of dbol 20mg/day, and 10 weeks of Deca 300mg/week. I gained about 20 lbs at the end of the cycle...no joke....but some some of it was fat......the dbol bloated me up pretty good, but I ended up taking 10mg/day of nolva about weeks 3 until the bloating when away....it worked for me. I got stronger, and gained some mass....if thats what your looking for...go for it.....as for me bro.....a few cycles later....looking back would have really watched my diet on that cycle....but still no regrets. I'm trying to stay away from the Test for now...but i'll definetly be trying it later!! If its what you got....go with it.....

Later bros.

 

[Khan Dog]

hey man, im looking to start my first cycles but oral tabs only, no inj!!

Any help?