Starting DNP - Final Questions

[dr_skier]

Last couple questions:

1)ok, so isometric diet, gotcha, should i also aim for low low cals? (2000ish)

2)i hear it leaches the potassium out of you, how much postassuim does a bananna have if v8 has 900mgs?

3)People reccomend a carb depletion 48hours before a carb up and a first pill pop... the carb up renormalizes and spikes t3-t4 conversion... what if i'm on 50mcg t3 already? Is the carb down needed? will it help burn fat faster?

4) I'm going to do 30-40mins low-med int. am cardio 12/14 days on. Good idea?

5) clen? Some say dnp upregulates the beta 2's and allows clen to be more effective... is clen a good idea or a death wish while on DNP?

6)Who has done a 200mg/day 14 day cycle and can give me some feedback from their experience? (ie what kind of weightloss or bf% loss did you experience?)

Thank you everyone!!! i'll take some pics and keep a journal.

 

[dr_skier]

^^^

 

[ChefWide]

interesting questions posed, any vets have some advice for this bro?

 

[jlh98765]

Last couple questions:

1)ok, so isometric diet, gotcha, should i also aim for low low cals? (2000ish)

2)i hear it leaches the potassium out of you, how much postassuim does a bananna have if v8 has 900mgs?

3)People reccomend a carb depletion 48hours before a carb up and a first pill pop... the carb up renormalizes and spikes t3-t4 conversion... what if i'm on 50mcg t3 already? Is the carb down needed? will it help burn fat faster?

4) I'm going to do 30-40mins low-med int. am cardio 12/14 days on. Good idea?

5) clen? Some say dnp upregulates the beta 2's and allows clen to be more effective... is clen a good idea or a death wish while on DNP?

6)Who has done a 200mg/day 14 day cycle and can give me some feedback from their experience? (ie what kind of weightloss or bf% loss did you experience?)

Thank you everyone!!! i'll take some pics and keep a journal.

I have done up to 400mgs for 4 weeks. Smart? Well, I'm still here. It was hell. But I wanted to lose the weight...and I did. I lost about 15lbs of fat. My pants were almost falling off of me when I was done.

Don't think you should go isometric. I would go about 50% carbs, 40 % protein, 10%fat. If you research you will see you will actually burn more fat by consuming more carbs. I would keep total calories around 12 cals per pound of bodyweight. Trust me. When you ingest the carbs you will feel the heat and sweat like a mofo. I basically accepted the fact I would feel like shit and sweat like a pig for about a month. I slept with a fan on me.

Start out at 200mgs. I drank a V8 everyday. You may want to carb-deplete for a couple days before you start. I wouldn't carb-up to renormalize T3 because DNP will decrease it anyway. Just take a couple of days to deplete your glycogen then start the DNP. It will get you into fat burning mode a little quicker. Don't take T3. You don't need it. You'll lose some muscle on DNP, T3 will just accelerate it. And keep the clen for something else. Trust me dude. If you are taking DNP you don't want these other things in your system. DNP is enough. I did take some caffeine prior to workouts and cardio sometimes depending on how lethargic I was. But I stayed away from any other stimulates (clen, ephedra.)

As far as working out. I did a 3 day split with weights in the 12-15 rep range. I stopped a few reps before failure. You won't build muscle on DNP anyway, but I wanted to do just enough to prevent atrophy.

For cardio, you can do light intensity cardio after you work out or on your off days. Will help you lose fat quicker. But you do not need medium-high intensity cardio. Just walking at a brisk pace on a treadmill will have you panting and sweating like crazy. Take a towel with you to the gym to wipe the sweat off the machines.

Stay with 200mgs for your first go around to get a feel for how you react to it. You won't sleep good at night. Just the way it is. You'll feel lethargic. Just the way it is.

But, and some will say they would never use DNP. I have used it and used it several times. And have had great success with it. I don't lose fat easily. But with DNP I do.

Go easy at first and just be smart. Stay hydrated all the time. Even at night when you wake up, have a bottle of water by the bed and drink some. Just stay hydrated, a V8 will replace some minerals, keep you fat intake to a minimum and don't worry about carb ingestion. You'll burn more calories with keeping your carbs up. Stay at 200mgs for now. I wouldn't go above that for now.

Let me know if I can be of any other help.

 

[dr_skier]

Thank you for your detailed response, much appreciated!

 

[jlh98765]

Thank you for your detailed response, much appreciated!

no prob

 

[jokerswild]

I have done up to 400mgs for 4 weeks. Smart? Well, I'm still here. It was hell. But I wanted to lose the weight...and I did. I lost about 15lbs of fat. My pants were almost falling off of me when I was done.

Don't think you should go isometric. I would go about 50% carbs, 40 % protein, 10%fat. If you research you will see you will actually burn more fat by consuming more carbs. I would keep total calories around 12 cals per pound of bodyweight. Trust me. When you ingest the carbs you will feel the heat and sweat like a mofo. I basically accepted the fact I would feel like shit and sweat like a pig for about a month. I slept with a fan on me.

Start out at 200mgs. I drank a V8 everyday. You may want to carb-deplete for a couple days before you start. I wouldn't carb-up to renormalize T3 because DNP will decrease it anyway. Just take a couple of days to deplete your glycogen then start the DNP. It will get you into fat burning mode a little quicker. Don't take T3. You don't need it. You'll lose some muscle on DNP, T3 will just accelerate it. And keep the clen for something else. Trust me dude. If you are taking DNP you don't want these other things in your system. DNP is enough. I did take some caffeine prior to workouts and cardio sometimes depending on how lethargic I was. But I stayed away from any other stimulates (clen, ephedra.)

As far as working out. I did a 3 day split with weights in the 12-15 rep range. I stopped a few reps before failure. You won't build muscle on DNP anyway, but I wanted to do just enough to prevent atrophy.

For cardio, you can do light intensity cardio after you work out or on your off days. Will help you lose fat quicker. But you do not need medium-high intensity cardio. Just walking at a brisk pace on a treadmill will have you panting and sweating like crazy. Take a towel with you to the gym to wipe the sweat off the machines.

Stay with 200mgs for your first go around to get a feel for how you react to it. You won't sleep good at night. Just the way it is. You'll feel lethargic. Just the way it is.

But, and some will say they would never use DNP. I have used it and used it several times. And have had great success with it. I don't lose fat easily. But with DNP I do.

Go easy at first and just be smart. Stay hydrated all the time. Even at night when you wake up, have a bottle of water by the bed and drink some. Just stay hydrated, a V8 will replace some minerals, keep you fat intake to a minimum and don't worry about carb ingestion. You'll burn more calories with keeping your carbs up. Stay at 200mgs for now. I wouldn't go above that for now.

Let me know if I can be of any other help.

K to you, good info based on experience...

 

[dr_skier]

Indeed, fantastic post, perhaps jlh98765 you can give me you professional opinion on powder vs. crystalline dnp caps.... thanks

 

[buckwheat1]

Indeed, fantastic post, perhaps jlh98765 you can give me you professional opinion on powder vs. crystalline dnp caps.... thanks

I have taken T3 with every DNP cycle that have done and I believe it becomes necessary after a certain amount of time has passed. DNP inhibits the conversion of t4->t3. Without T3 the effect of the DNP decreases. By adding at least 50mcg a day, lets the DNP work.

High doses of t3 can cause muscle loss but in this case, we are merely replacing t3 since it is being inhibited.

As far diet, I just eat a high-protein, moderate fat, with complex carbs. Nothing fancy. Drink lots of fluids and you should be using a shitload of antioxidants that are listed in the various DNP FAQ's.

You do not need clen while on DNP. But I have used ephedrine/caffeine tablets when energy is low. For me, clen makes me sleepy and is not a stimulate.

Again, I have never felt that I experienced any noticeable muscle loss when I used DNP. Your muscles will become flat and your enery and strength will be reduced, but a few weeks after the DNP cycle is over, I always seem to be back to the same size and strength minus some fat.

I have used DNP with and without AAS. I found that when I was on, my energy levels were much higher and DNP was much more enjoyable.

I would say that most of the DNP is powdered. Powdered and crystal are two different animals. Crystal is much stronger and I have no experience with it. I believe it much more readily and rapidly absorbed.

Also, always start with the 200mg/day and do not increase till at least the 3 or 4th day. DNP builds up. So the first dosage, you may not feel anything and wonder if it is working.

I have a normal job that I have to go into every day. Even when I am on low dosage DNP, I can still break out into a sweat at work and need to have a small desk fan to keep me cool. I have been meetings where I actually had to leave the meeting because I started sweating so bad. This would be at 200mg/day and some T3. The sweating will come and go at that dosage.

Once last tip that I like to do,- take the dosage in the late evening. This way the DNP kicks in at night and I just keep my room cool.

I believe DNP is very safe when used responsibily. So, treat it with respect and it can become an effective tool.

 

[used2juice]

Running 400mg daily, how long do you guys recommend staying on it? Are we talking only a couple weeks, or as long as a month?

 

[INNOCENT]

a lot of great info here...thanks for posting guys

 

[buckwheat1]

Running 400mg daily, how long do you guys recommend staying on it? Are we talking only a couple weeks, or as long as a month?

There is a range of dosage/time that people use. My first cycle of DNP was a 7 day cycle. You start out at 200mg/day and go up to 600mg/day. I was constantly sweating and woke every morning in a pool of sweat and felt like crap. I did it during a time when I was working from home so I did not have to worry about sweating at work.

My next cycles I experimented with doing less and running it longer. Personally I like this approach. At 200mg/day, I will go 3-4 weeks. Even at this dosage, I still take days off. For example, if I knew I was going to go out on a Saturday night, I would not take any Friday or Saturday night. This is to help prevent embarrassing sweating in public.

 

[jlh98765]

Yeah, I've done the low dose for longer time and higher dose for shorter time. Higher dose will make you feel worse and is not feasible if you work a job where profuse sweating is a problem. I too worked from home when I went high dose. Just can't be sweating like a pig around people and them wonder what is wrong with you. Also, even talking will make you winded. When I was on 400mgs/day talking on the phone to people I knew would say "man, why are you out of breath? You sound like you just got done running."

I personally don't think the mega doses for short periods do much (600mgs/day). It takes a couple days for those levels to build up in you body. When they do build up you will sweat bad and feel like crap. Then you come off of it after a few days. Not really enough time to burn appreciable fat for what you go through.

400/mgs day is the middle ground for someone who has used it before. You will sweat and feel bad and people may notice it. But you can run it for longer, maybe up to a month like I did, but it's an experience you will remember! But you'll burn fat like nothing else.

200mgs/day is good for the beginner. Won't seat too bad. Will feel slightly lethargic. Will take a day or two to feel it kick in. But can run it for weeks. I don't recommend running it for longer than 4 weeks, no matter the dose. I don't have any research to come up with that number. Just my experience and common sense to give yourself a break.

I've used T3 with DNP before but felt even flatter and worse while on T3 and DNP. That's just me. That's why I don't run T3 with it. True, T3 levels decrease while on DNP, but DNP is so strong the decrease in T3 doesn't seem to affect the fat burning at all. And I personally think the decrease in T3 helps to slow any muscle loss.

I've used it with and without AAS too. And I agree I felt better and looked better with AAS. You don't need mega amounts of AAS. Just enough to slow/prevent muscle loss. Because you won't build muscle anyway while on DNP even if you use mega dosages of AAS. You'll just be wasting it.

 

[dr_skier]

400mg/day for a month eh, wow thats wicked... I'm guessing it was powder... Do you have some beofe and after pics from that month?... also what kind of bf% and weight did you loose during that month?
thanks
PS - my cutting / carb depletion / restricted cals / lean meats etc start tomorrow so today i'm going for 10 000 cals, just eating all day long, i had a large chicken carbonara from quizno's for lunch, double meat, double cheese, i dont recomend this. I had heartburn that was brutal...

 

[jlh98765]

400mg/day for a month eh, wow thats wicked... I'm guessing it was powder... Do you have some beofe and after pics from that month?... also what kind of bf% and weight did you loose during that month?
thanks
PS - my cutting / carb depletion / restricted cals / lean meats etc start tomorrow so today i'm going for 10 000 cals, just eating all day long, i had a large chicken carbonara from quizno's for lunch, double meat, double cheese, i dont recomend this. I had heartburn that was brutal...

It was a wicked month. And it was during the summer....not something I recommend. I don't have pics. That month I lost about 15lbs of fat. So which would have taken me from about 17.5% bodyfat to 10%. Because I started around 200 lbs and ended up at 185. The thing I like the most about DNP is you know you are burning fat all the time. Now, I didn't change my eating habits that much, if any. And if I wanted ice cream or some other cheat food I ate it. So considering everything it was very effective for me. I've ran DNP a total of 4 times. Using differing amounts for differing times. But all times I got the results I wanted.

Just be careful with it and stay hydrated.