ok found it, but it is kinda old school. i think mine will work just as good with the new pct products i got
btw my avi was christmas day so im a lil bigger now
btw my avi was christmas day so im a lil bigger now
glad: the problem I see is that your pre cycle blood work came up as 330.. meaning you were still suppressed slightly although definately in recovery mode. you did not allow your body to FULLY recover before running another cycle. of course unless you ran a blood test before you started juicing at all we don't have a baseline.. heck 330 could be normal for you. or 530 could be normal and you just aren't recovered yet. we just don't know but my money would be on the latter.
make sure you clear your body of ALL esthers and allow atleast time on= time off before running a blood test. or else your results will be useless.
on the flipside don't run a blood test when you are say 3 weeks after a deca injection. it takes 5 weeks for deca esthers to clear the body! so your results will do you no good! or don't run a blood test 2 weeks after your sustanon injection as the long esther will still be in your body and your results will fool you the opposite way.
I ran a blood test once and it came up as 98 and i freaked out. well I was only 5 weeks out of my deca cycle. and the esthers were just then clearing so 98 was actually a good reading. 1 month later i was only at 119. 3 months later I re-tested in the 300's. so timing can make a huge difference.
noobs need to be careful not to run back to back cycles because recovery will be a bitch. i know a guy running back to back deca cycles. he ran no PCT and took 2 weeks off. that was his recovery.. 2 weeks. deca is hard enough to recover from 1 cycle, but running back to back cycles? good luck. now he is on HRT, when it wasn't necessary and all he had to do was be a little patient and allow himself to recover
PS thanks for doing this diary, shows you are serious about not only cycling but also about gaining and sharing knowledge. that is the kind of posters this board needs more of .. K headed your way
The blood test i did in August was definitely way after cycle, it was about 5 months later. I had ended my test/masteron cycle in March. I ran 2 weeks of a prohormone in July and a month later i took that blood test in August, so i think it should be an accurate reading right?
I see what ur saying tho since we dont have a baseline of what my levels were before any kind of juicing. Unfortunately I started prohormones at 17 and have been doing some kind of steroid ever since. So when i got my test levels checked and they were 330, IMO that was OK for me even though im only 21. So even if my normal values should be 500, they might be 330 just because of all the shit ive taken in highschool without a PCT.
Thanks for the response. I wanna know if this works. Definitely wanna give back to the board, I have learned so much from this site and its the only reason im even doing a full PCT with blood work.
well according to Nelson and others the more cycles you run over time the more your HPTA function weakens. so its possible abusing steroids at a young age has led to your 330 level. we just don't know
the way you can really learn here is running 2-3 blood tests over a 4 week span. if your results fluctuate then you know that you are still in recovery mode. if they stay constant then you hit your baseline. my readings were 98 then 119 then 350. so obviously I was in recovery mode.. i waited 2 more months then started my next cycle. i was not ready yet.
also you know this but if some other noobs read make sure you test yourself before 8am. qwest opens at 7am i believe and you can usually just walk in and wait like 10 minutes
So when should i do my first blood test? I was gonna wait till way after PCT so i didnt get an inaccurate reading.
yes I believe it probably has, but who knows? All I know is that if it gets back to 330 or even HIGHER then it worked. But honestly at 21, it should be higher, hopefully it is.
But if my levels return back to 330 or higher, then we can conclude that the recovery worked and that10mg dbol AM in PCT. We can atleast say that I recovered from the 16 week test/beastdrol/katanadrol/dieselbolan cycle i did lol
So when should i do my first blood test? I was gonna wait till way after PCT so i didnt get an inaccurate reading.
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