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Started on Deca...Also thinking of Sust

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Richy

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Alright Guys,

I've started on Deca this week.
200mg im going with to start with per week, then may go to 200mg every 4 days.
Im also thinking of doing sust in between the deca...is it worth it?

My Stats:
25 yrs old
85kg
1.8 m tall
quite slim build...so not that much fat.

lifting weights 2/3 per week.
Cardio/Conditioning training 2 times per week.

Looking to increase power, speed (sprinting) and endurance

Does it sound ok what im doing?
 
well yep i value my dick...why?

what is test? how much do i need? is it injectable or oral?

g35mann said:
IF you value your dick, youll want to add test. So it is deffinitly worth it for that reason alone, not to even mention the better gains.
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i never use test with my deca. but i'm one of the lucky ones who still has a dick on deca. 200mg/week not much though, i'd go 200mg 2x week and throw in some test at around 400
 
im new to all this...sorry guys still learning...so what does AAS stand for?

I take it Deca shrinks your dick?...i understand it can make you impotent...and shrink your balls.

So what will 'test' do and what is 'test' please?



a creed said:
You started using AAS without knowing what "test" is??????

I don't buy it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Richy said:
im new to all this...sorry guys still learning...so what does AAS stand for?

I take it Deca shrinks your dick?...i understand it can make you impotent...and shrink your balls.

So what will 'test' do and what is 'test' please?
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LOL! :p :p

AAS= anabolic androgenic steroids

Deca does not shrink your dick. But a comon side effect of a deca only cylce is not being able to get hard.

Test=testosterone. Sustanon is made up of 4 diff test's from slow to fast acting. I would add test as soon as possible or dount count on getting any action for awhile. And obv youll like your results much better.
 
ok so i am going to get some sust as well...how much sust should i take if i am taking 200mg of Deca a week.

and thanks for your help so far!



needtogetas said:
well do something bro.dont do deca by itself
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i wont even say whats on my mind b/c ill end of flamming....

good luck bro, do more research and dont screw yourself up
 
needtogetas said:
take more sust then you are deca.
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yep

and do you have PCT(post cycle therapy lined up) ... im guessing probably not.
you need it, it gets your balls back to producing natual test (testosterone)
 
SwolK said:
yep

and do you have PCT(post cycle therapy lined up) ... im guessing probably not.
you need it, it gets your balls back to producing natual test (testosterone)
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yes you will need some nolva and clomid on hand in case of sides.and fore deca you should take some vitamin-b through the hole cycle.then you will also need some hcg to help bring them nuts back when youre cycle is over.
 
i am trying to learn...you must have been a beginner at some point?!!...thats why i've come on here to speak to you guys who know your stuff! ;)


SwolK said:
i wont even say whats on my mind b/c ill end of flamming....

good luck bro, do more research and dont screw yourself up
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so this post cycle therapy...what do i need to do here?

thanks again guys
 
Richy said:
i am trying to learn...you must have been a beginner at some point?!!...thats why i've come on here to speak to you guys who know your stuff! ;)





so this post cycle therapy...what do i need to do here?

thanks again guys
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bro, we are being as easy on you as we can. more then most people get...

the point is that you should have researched and had a knowledge about all of this before you started. Do your own leg work (research) then come with questions and comments and we will all be glad to help. dont expect to come here with NO knowledge and have us wipe your ass for you.

DO YOUR OWN REASEARCH ON PCT. there is even a PCT forum on this board. then come ask questions
 
SwolK said:
bro, we are being as easy on you as we can. more then most people get...

the point is that you should have researched and had a knowledge about all of this before you started. Do your own leg work (research) then come with questions and comments and we will all be glad to help. dont expect to come here with NO knowledge and have us wipe your ass for you.

DO YOUR OWN REASEARCH ON PCT. there is even a PCT forum on this board. then come ask questions
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right.whats gotten into us today.all this niceness.lol
but youre right.he needs to find out all he can about what he is getting himself into.
 
ok i'll do some more research...thanks for your help so far.

im sure i'll be back!! :mix:

Thanks.

SwolK said:
bro, we are being as easy on you as we can. more then most people get...

the point is that you should have researched and had a knowledge about all of this before you started. Do your own leg work (research) then come with questions and comments and we will all be glad to help. dont expect to come here with NO knowledge and have us wipe your ass for you.

DO YOUR OWN REASEARCH ON PCT. there is even a PCT forum on this board. then come ask questions
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Richy, what you have done was not sensible but you've done it now.

Start by reading the PCT forum, all of it. You should read every single post there so that you have an idea of what you're dealing with. Order some cabaser to protect against prolactin side effects. It may never affect you but there's a chance that you'll start producing milk before too long. If you can't get cabaser then consider dropping the deca or adding in winny in a few weeks or get some Vitex or chaste berry and supplement with B6. Some recommend bromocryptine but that has issues of its own.

If impotence is a concern then get some testosterone. Sust will be fine but you'd probably be better off with enanthate or cypionate, whichever is available to you. Run the testosterone at least three weeks longer than the deca to help with recovery. Some reommend four but a lot depends on relative dosages. You'll know what I'm referring to after you've read all of the pct forum.

Have fun.
 
Has anyone mentioned aromatase inhibition yet? I think I mentioned in your other thread. Consider this essential. Beware of nolvadex when taking deca.
 
blut wump said:
Richy, what you have done was not sensible but you've done it now.

Start by reading the PCT forum, all of it. You should read every single post there so that you have an idea of what you're dealing with. Order some cabaser to protect against prolactin side effects. It may never affect you but there's a chance that you'll start producing milk before too long. If you can't get cabaser then consider dropping the deca or adding in winny in a few weeks or get some Vitex or chaste berry and supplement with B6. Some recommend bromocryptine but that has issues of its own.

If impotence is a concern then get some testosterone. Sust will be fine but you'd probably be better off with enanthate or cypionate, whichever is available to you. Run the testosterone at least three weeks longer than the deca to help with recovery. Some reommend four but a lot depends on relative dosages. You'll know what I'm referring to after you've read all of the pct forum.

Have fun.
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good post. ;)
 
SwolK said:
bro, we are being as easy on you as we can. more then most people get...
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Yeah, actually, i dont think ive ever seen anyone, on any board be that nice... especially if someone already started a deca only cycle and didnt know what test was =P

Reminds me of 3 years ago, when i was 120lbs, and got on a board, without reading much, just listening to my friends. Said i was going to to a tren only cycle, 75mg ED, and asked what pct was :verygood:
 
again, thanks guys for been 'nice' to me...i feel quite humbled by you now!!

producing milk...err...no one ever mentioned this to me!!! :worried:
The info i got was from my mate who is already on Deca and Sust...

wasnt sure if to take sust as well...but now will.

yeah i should maybe have done more research...but i wasnt to know all this...

i will continue to research as much as i can.

rakasha681 said:
Yeah, actually, i dont think ive ever seen anyone, on any board be that nice... especially if someone already started a deca only cycle and didnt know what test was =P

Reminds me of 3 years ago, when i was 120lbs, and got on a board, without reading much, just listening to my friends. Said i was going to to a tren only cycle, 75mg ED, and asked what pct was :verygood:
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swolk / neeto: You're definitely alot more easy-going on him than I would've been! Especially before noon :chomp:

richy: I have to say this though, since the point about doing more research has already been drilled into you.... I don't see how deca & test are going to help you to gain speed and endurance... for all intensive purposes, those drugs are mass-builders...and of course, strength comes with that... are you a runner? Sprinter? Maybe deca and sust are not the best choices in your case, so do more research... test alone is always recommended for a first-timer.... eventually, maybe look into EQ and Anavar (I think they might be more suited for endurance and speed)...

Good luck!
 
im a rugby player...i do want size...more muscle, but also more endurance and speed...
rugby really is a game of strength/power, speed and endurance...been a little bit bigger will also help...a 85 kg guy running in to a 100kg guy...well guess you know the rest!!



njmuscleguy said:
swolk / neeto: You're definitely alot more easy-going on him than I would've been! Especially before noon :chomp:

richy: I have to say this though, since the point about doing more research has already been drilled into you.... I don't see how deca & test are going to help you to gain speed and endurance... for all intensive purposes, those drugs are mass-builders...and of course, strength comes with that... are you a runner? Sprinter? Maybe deca and sust are not the best choices in your case, so do more research... test alone is always recommended for a first-timer.... eventually, maybe look into EQ and Anavar (I think they might be more suited for endurance and speed)...

Good luck!
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rakasha681 said:
Yeah, actually, i dont think ive ever seen anyone, on any board be that nice... especially if someone already started a deca only cycle and didnt know what test was =P

Reminds me of 3 years ago, when i was 120lbs, and got on a board, without reading much, just listening to my friends. Said i was going to to a tren only cycle, 75mg ED, and asked what pct was :verygood:
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what can i say? i guess im having a good day
 
njmuscleguy said:
swolk / neeto: You're definitely alot more easy-going on him than I would've been! Especially before noon :chomp:

richy: I have to say this though, since the point about doing more research has already been drilled into you.... I don't see how deca & test are going to help you to gain speed and endurance... for all intensive purposes, those drugs are mass-builders...and of course, strength comes with that... are you a runner? Sprinter? Maybe deca and sust are not the best choices in your case, so do more research... test alone is always recommended for a first-timer.... eventually, maybe look into EQ and Anavar (I think they might be more suited for endurance and speed)...

Good luck!
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i must be going easy b/c the clomid makes me so emotional...
wait, im not on clomid. guess im having a good day

Richy, we have all been newbs at one point. its good that you found some good info here now b/f you screw yourself up. As bluntwump said, you should probably get on an AI as well(Aromitase inhibitor) it keeps your test from turning into Estrogen. of course estrogen is bad news. So research that too.
 
Jesus Christ!!!! This has to be a fucking joke.!! IF not you are truely an asshole. Not knowing what the fuck you are putting in your body. Its seems like people are getting dumber as time goes on.

TESTDEN :chomp:
 
wow you guys are suprising me. a year ago this time this guy would have been flamed to hell and back. kudos for being cool to the newbie.
 
LVTitan said:
wow you guys are suprising me. a year ago this time this guy would have been flamed to hell and back. kudos for being cool to the newbie.
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Hey Titan...where ya been hiding?

I think the "vets" are just all just tired-out from all the same newbie posts, they don't have the energy to keep fighting them *grin*
 
I would never use deca without test. Additionally, I'd have enough test so that I can continue to run it for two or three weeks after my last deca inject. . .better chance of recovery and maintaining some of your gains.
 
Yeah I am kinda shocked no one bombed his ass into oblivion yet. Dude, why on earth would you put something into your body without knowing what it was? Are you 12 years old and the big kids told you it was cool? The guys are being way nice to you. Yes we all started somewhere, but injecting something into your body is not a game. Everyone gave you solid advice. Read the stickies. There are the answers to your questions inside. Be careful and good luck!
 
Richy said:
i am trying to learn...you must have been a beginner at some point?!!...thats why i've come on here to speak to you guys who know your stuff! ;)





so this post cycle therapy...what do i need to do here?

thanks again guys
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Actually I think a lot of guys like myself did some research before taking the plunge. I did 3 years before anything got put into my body. Anytime I help someone place an order, I make sure they know what they are doing. you might look into getting dostinex but with only 200mg you probably don't need it. you also probably don't need hcg with that low of a dose, but it won't hurt. Well it could hurt if you don't know what your doing. good luck to ya, your gonna need it. Your first cycle is your best and if you fuck it up, that would really suck.

BOOGS
 
It's the "probably" part to each of those that's the problem. Some guys run a kick-ass cycle and then pop a few tribulus pills for a couple of weeks and they're fine. Some guys get gyno signs from popping a few dbols for a week.

Richy, what it comes down to is that nobody can tell you how your body is going to respond to any given hormone or combination of hormones. Even someone experienced can't be 100% sure how his next cycle is going to treat him.

It's entirely possible that you'll be fine on deca alone and that adding in test will cause problems for you. This is why everyone says to research and take it steadily. You need to be able to recognise what can go wrong and know how to deal with it before it happens lest you be fucked when it does happen and have to wait for an ancillary to turn up after you order it.

With sensible doses, you'll have time to deal with anything going awry but a few months reading can save a lot of anxiety when you, say, suddenly get hot flashes while you're lifting or your nipples start to poke out an extra quarter of an inch or your nuts shrivel to raisins or you find that it hurts to take a piss or you start finding milk stains on your shirt.

You owe it to yourself to know a lot more about what you're sticking into your body.

Have you read the PCT forum yet?
 
njmuscleguy said:
Hey Titan...where ya been hiding?

I think the "vets" are just all just tired-out from all the same newbie posts, they don't have the energy to keep fighting them *grin*
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been busy man with work and my new lady.
i still lurk every once in a while :)
 
do a gram of deca a week with no test.....also get some dbol at about 100mg day....drink 2 gallons of whole milk a day and eat 1000 cals over every day

that should do it for a rugby player who wants to speed up a little..... :rolleyes:

next...
 
Yeah have been reading about PCT and about Deca and Sust over the weekend.
For the cycle i am on i have read/researched i should start a PCT of clomid/nova or both together to cover more angles, 3 weeks after last injection and run it for 3-4 weeks.



blut wump said:
It's the "probably" part to each of those that's the problem. Some guys run a kick-ass cycle and then pop a few tribulus pills for a couple of weeks and they're fine. Some guys get gyno signs from popping a few dbols for a week.

Richy, what it comes down to is that nobody can tell you how your body is going to respond to any given hormone or combination of hormones. Even someone experienced can't be 100% sure how his next cycle is going to treat him.

It's entirely possible that you'll be fine on deca alone and that adding in test will cause problems for you. This is why everyone says to research and take it steadily. You need to be able to recognise what can go wrong and know how to deal with it before it happens lest you be fucked when it does happen and have to wait for an ancillary to turn up after you order it.

With sensible doses, you'll have time to deal with anything going awry but a few months reading can save a lot of anxiety when you, say, suddenly get hot flashes while you're lifting or your nipples start to poke out an extra quarter of an inch or your nuts shrivel to raisins or you find that it hurts to take a piss or you start finding milk stains on your shirt.

You owe it to yourself to know a lot more about what you're sticking into your body.

Have you read the PCT forum yet?
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