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Squats,it might sound dumb but i wanna clear it

dim

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Pretty simple queston here.Do u go all the way down till ur hams meet the back of ur calves or till legs form 90 deg angle?I go all the way down but my trainer says its too bad for the knees.How u guys do it?Is it really that bad to go all the way down?K for answers :artist:
 
dim said:
Pretty simple queston here.Do u go all the way down till ur hams meet the back of ur calves or till legs form 90 deg angle?I go all the way down but my trainer says its too bad for the knees.How u guys do it?Is it really that bad to go all the way down?K for answers :artist:


me personally, hell no. i dont see any point in going until your hams touch the calfs. the only thing i see out of that is possible injury. IMO all you really need to do is go to parallel, or just below (maybe a inch or two below.)
 
actually the knees are put under more strain when the squat is reversed at parallel. ass to grass is the way the to go. i think a reason why people don't go atf is because it turns the squat into a much more difficult movement.
 
Personally i believe that its not a full rep until youve hit parallel..i see no point in doing knee jerks..having said that there is prolly more stress on the knee when stopping at parallel..when u squat ATF the stress is transferrred to your hip when ur below para...some poeple may not have problems stopping at para..ronnie coleman squats pretty heavy and he goes to para not much below and i dont recall him suffering from knee probs..squatting atf will yield more power and benefit..i would continue to keep going atf
 
Most people do quarter squats (not even to parallel) because it's the only way they can get 2 plates on the bar. If they were going ATF they would probably be using 95 pounds. Keep going deep.
 
so i ll just go on going all the way down :)
oh and by the way close legged squats and front squats roxor :) i love them
 
when the crease at my hip is below the top of my knee, thats low enough for me. though, when i do Oly high bar squats, i get all the way down there. you should see the looks when people see you actually squat down, you get that first hesitation like they are going to run and help you, then you come back up. :)
 
there is a big difference in the power that i have going ass to floor and just going down to parallel. i have bad knees, and ATF hasnt hurt them at all yet.
 
and it shouldnt either. since you minimize the torque you are putting on your knees, if you were to stop at parallel, you would be applying not only force to stop at parallel, but reverse at parallel, which is the peak point/sticking point. its similar to if you stopped your bicep curl at the sticking point and reversed it. its a ton of tension, that you could have used speed to get through, and also had a larger ROM.
 
It is proven that stopping at parallel increases force on the knee alot more than going ass to grass, but if you squat down and back and keep your shins rather vertical like a powerlifting style squat, I believe you lessen the amount of stress on the knees. I generally squat right around parallel, maybe a little higher sometimes and most of the time right around or slightly lower than parallel. Actually squatting to parallel is pretty deep overall and alot deeper compared to most guys in the gym. I'm always laughing inside when I see guys squatting 135lbs for 10 reps using padding and doing half or quarter squats. It's a joke.
 
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