Specific cycle questions on Cyp/Eq

[marinenova]

Stats:
28y.o M
6'2" 228lbs
lifting for 6yr

PCT on hand: Clomid
AI: Letro

I need some help guys. This is my first cycle and i need to know what i should be running mg/wk wise. Right now ive been told that 250mg/wk EQ and 200mg/wk CYP for 10 wks is good enough but from what ive been reading on this site its not. What do you guys personally recommend for me. Im not completely new to this as ive run a prohormone before. I just dont want to waste my time/money. I want to get some good results from this and im looking for vasularity from the EQ.

 

[kc17]

Those doses are too low for my taste, you will get better results with a simple basic cycle of test e 500mg wkly for 12 wks, you could add an oral the 1st 4wks as a kickstart, Eq needs to be run for 14 , 16 weeks and 400mg and up it gives me lots of anxiety btw.

 

[joeblow12345]

I agree with this^^^. Also clomid only for pct is insufficient. I do use a low dose clomid like 25 mgs a week for 4 weeks, but I would also use hcg at the end of cycle or hcgenerate. The post cycle/ unleashed combo are great additions as well. Here is what I would do.

1-15 test 500 mgs week
1-14 equipoise 500 mgs week
1-6 dbol 30-40 mgs day
1-21 adex .5 mg every 3 rd day or as needed. Letro is very strong and I would only use if I had gyno already
15-19 hcg at 250-500 ius a week or hcgenerate.
17-21 clomid 25 mgs day
17-21 post cycle/ unleashed combo
22-26 bridge or sarms or both.

Throughout take your normal multis and vitamins as well as milk thistle if you use the oral.

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[lander2312]

It use to be said on this site that you should use just enough gear to see results, and of couse each person is different. I suggest just using one compound (test) for your first cycle. That way you know how your body reacts and you can build later cycles from there. If you have never ran test I think you would see good results from 200ml per week. Remember Rome wasnt built in a day. Also for your cycle I would strongly recommend hcgenerate..i know it geys lots of hype on this site....but its earned it, really good stuff.

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[TheSVPdeal]

Test for 12 weeks at 250mg pw only.

Aromasin 12.5mg eod as needed. HCGenerate beginning 5th week at 2 caps a.m. and p.m.

Unleased/Post Cycle and Formastanzol (drop aromasin) beginning day after last inject. Bridge beginning at second week.

This is what I would do. You should read the stickies.

 

[lander2312]

^^^ This

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[marinenova]

Cool np guys im gonna start low and test the waters. if i feel like im not seeing the results i want ill up my dose or maybe even wait for my next cycle. as for HCGenerate... ive never heard/taken it before (we're talking about the white/blue/green bottle right?? I dont want to buy any fakes). So it ups your HCG to bring your natty test up while you're suppressing your estro on PCT correct?

so start dosing HCGenerate on the 5th week?

 

[joeblow12345]

Cool np guys im gonna start low and test the waters. if i feel like im not seeing the results i want ill up my dose or maybe even wait for my next cycle. as for HCGenerate... ive never heard/taken it before (we're talking about the white/blue/green bottle right?? I dont want to buy any fakes). So it ups your HCG to bring your natty test up while you're suppressing your estro on PCT correct?

so start dosing HCGenerate on the 5th week?

I myself was a skeptic of hcgenerate and always used hcg. However after reading the reviews so many times I decided to give it a try and I can honestly say it works very well. I will absolutely use it again. And if you use it and dont like the results needto will give you a full refund. How many other supplement companys stand behind their products like that? If you.run a cycle without his products your only cheating yourself. Im just pissed that I didnt find out about these products years ago.

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[marinenova]

So whats the dosing for HCGenerate? is it strictly post cycle or do you take it while on cycle then just up the dose while doing post? what does it actually do?

 

[stopstalking]

I personally won't ever run test again under 500 mg unless it is just as a test base for an oral cycle.

For me 600 mg eq is the sweet spot. I don't get much more from going higher but see a nice jump in gains compared to 400 mg


Hcgenerate should be used on cycle and if the funds are there it works great running it through pct as well

 

[Power Cord]

Personally, I think the cycle you laid out would be just fine and you should absolutely see results.

 

[joeblow12345]

So whats the dosing for HCGenerate? is it strictly post cycle or do you take it while on cycle then just up the dose while doing post? what does it actually do?

Its 5 caps a day. You can use it on cycle, buy I use it at end of cycle and run it until bottle is empty like 4 weeks. It works just like hcg. It gives your body an easier transition to pct. Every steroid shuts your body down and this helps get it going again along with pct. Its also easier to take a pill than stick a needle in your belly.

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[lander2312]

If you run it during your cycle you dont shut down as hard, subsequently pct is much easier and quicker

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[C0LUMB0]

I agree with this^^^. Also clomid only for pct is insufficient. I do use a low dose clomid like 25 mgs a week for 4 weeks, but I would also use hcg at the end of cycle or hcgenerate. The post cycle/ unleashed combo are great additions as well. Here is what I would do.

1-15 test 500 mgs week
1-14 equipoise 500 mgs week
1-6 dbol 30-40 mgs day
1-21 adex .5 mg every 3 rd day or as needed. Letro is very strong and I would only use if I had gyno already
15-19 hcg at 250-500 ius a week or hcgenerate.
17-21 clomid 25 mgs day
17-21 post cycle/ unleashed combo
22-26 bridge or sarms or both.

Throughout take your normal multis and vitamins as well as milk thistle if you use the oral.

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i like this ^^^^^^ but for a first cycle just leave it at test only @ 500mg for 10-12 weeks max.

 

[marinenova]

Ok, thanks guys. I will be back on here to keep anyone whos curious updated on my gains.
I have decided to go with a 300mg/wk EQ and 250mg/wk Cyp cycle.

Started April 21
Supps: Creatine, Glutamine, Protein, Liver Armor, GABA
Starting Weight: 230lbs
Starting BF: 14.5%
Bench: 315lbs X 5 Squat: 455lbs X 5 Deads: 455lbs X 3 PCurl: 170lbs X 4

Diet: Pretty clean (meaning i try to eat as good as i can as much as i can around 5 times a day)

May 1
Update from start weight: 234lbs
as of right now i feel stronger already barely a wk 1/2 in. idk if its just me or if im sensitive to the stuff (which i hope i am) but i feel stronger/vascular already. my hunger has definitely kicked in (i hear thats from the EQ) cuz last night i ate dinner and 45 min later i had to eat again i was so hungry. Idk if its possible for this stuff to be kicking in this early... maybe it was my frontload that made that happen, who knows