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buffdoc

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This post's been languishing on the counterfit board for 2 days, no reply. Any takers?

I'm 95% sure on these. Amber vial, exact fill volumes, green lettering cannot be scraped off w/ a knife. Blue dots uniform in size and placement. File mark below blue dot.
Comments?

buffdoc
 
gilly6993 said:
:p.....I've got a bunch of the same ones....great stuff......
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Thanks for the validation.
I've never used it before, want to add to a test cycle; 300-400 a week on the primo sound about right? Doing 500 on test.
 
Post on the gear pictures forum, you'll get more replies. Retabolil2, Vovan, Norma-man, or the Dutch Windmill seem to be the experts on Euro gear.
PM a few of them and ask to look at your thread. There are so many fake Primo's out there that it's more likely then not that they're fake. I'm not saying they are, just it's a tough drug to get.
 
genarr3 said:
Post on the gear pictures forum, you'll get more replies. Retabolil2, Vovan, Norma-man, or the Dutch Windmill seem to be the experts on Euro gear.
PM a few of them and ask to look at your thread. There are so many fake Primo's out there that it's more likely then not that they're fake. I'm not saying they are, just it's a tough drug to get.
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Thanks, I'll do it. Pretty sure these are the real deal from responses thusfar here and at AM, and because of my source. Just like to be sure, and maybe get some more!
Thanks
 
Guys the amps on the picture looks like old spanish primo. Let me remind you they have stopped making new paper label primo one year ago and they were making paper label primo for the past three years. I seriously doubt those are real.
 
Retabolil2 said:
Guys the amps on the picture looks like old spanish primo. Let me remind you they have stopped making new paper label primo one year ago and they were making paper label primo for the past three years. I seriously doubt those are real.
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.....FUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCKKKKK!
 
To Retabolil 2

Retabolil 2 you said the Spanish paper labels were the only ones being made for a few years now, to your knowledge did the print on those paper labels swear eaily when rubbed? I was in TJ and they were selling those at a granero ( vet pharm) and but I didn't like them for two reasons:

1. The print on the paper labels smeared very easily,

2. I bought one and cracked it and although it tasted like some kind of AS ( I could taste the BA) it did not taste or smell anything like the spanish primos I did three years ago, they had a distinct sweet/ fruity smell and taste.

If you have any comments on these issues it would be much appreciated.

Stryder
 
Yes you can smell the real deal primo, it smells like a cherry or something like that and print on those labels is of very high quality so it was smart decision not to buy that crap in Mexico.
 
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So if spanish primo is finished then where are they still being made and what should I look for?

Thanks for all your help,

Stryder
 
Retabolil2 said:
Yes you can smell the real deal primo, it smells like a cherry or something like that and print on those labels is of very high quality so it was smart decision not to buy that crap in Mexico.
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any other tests we can do?
 
Retabolil,

I read what you and others were saying; I had been thinking of sending an amp to the lab, but then I cracked one and smelled it: faintly sweetish. The taste is interesting, not bitter like a lot of drugs, but like a fruit, not exactly a cherry, sort of indescribable, like almond/cherry. My source swears it's the real thing, and his reputation for not sending along bad shit is very good, he seems very knowledgeable. Does the smell/taste thing alter your suspicions at all?
Also, the oil is clear and quite thick.

Hopefully yours
buffdoc
 
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gilly6993 said:



any other tests we can do?
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The only thing which is really suspicious is that this primo is old style! hell I can`t even find a picture of this stuff anymore! :) LOL
I remember I bought 2000amps last september and there were about 20amps like these on the picture. other amps were all paper label. If you can get an original box that will help.
 
I have the box....the thing that concerns me is there is no perforatrions around the upc symbol as shown in anbolics 2002......is this indicitive of being fake....everything else looks right on
 
gilly6993 said:
I would do 400 a week.....a great adjunct to the cycle and will definately help solidify gains.....
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Gilly,
I've heard people spread it out. Would you just do 100mg EOD, which would give me 400 per week? I have no problem w/ the shots.
Thanks
 
stryder said:
So if spanish primo is finished then where are they still being made and what should I look for?

Thanks for all your help,

Stryder
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TToKKyo but that would be the same as being ass raped since the price is incredebily high.......
 
buffdoc said:



Gilly,
I've heard people spread it out. Would you just do 100mg EOD, which would give me 400 per week? I have no problem w/ the shots.
Thanks
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well buffdoc, I have 50 amps of the same thing you have and after looking at the boxes I realize they're fake......

regarding your question....primo is long acting you can get away with 200 mg twice per week......
 
gilly6993 said:




well buffdoc, I have 50 amps of the same thing you have and after looking at the boxes I realize they're fake......

regarding your question....primo is long acting you can get away with 200 mg twice per week......
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Not so fast, my fine young bro. Did you do the smell/taste test? Also the oil quality? He seemed to think mine was the real deal after I PM'd him about this.
Fruity odor, taste of cherry/almond (that was my description). He said yes, Primo was very much like Amaretto. Also, the oil was clear and very thick. He said that was characteristic specifically of Schering products.
Hopefully yours
buffdoc
 
more info

i take primos in my hands everyweek(and huge quantities)and i must tell you that i agree with retabolil about how smell it and the rest,but my opinion is those primos (only looking at the picture!)are real.i still get these kind of primos in my stock.but i repeat again this is my opinion and only looking at this pic.
anyway right now it´s not very difficult to find good and cheap primo here in spain
more info...e-mail me.no PM
regards
 
Is Primo supposed to be clear? I had some that meet all of the characteristics of taste and smell, it was not clear.
 
buffdoc said:


Not so fast, my fine young bro. Did you do the smell/taste test? Also the oil quality? He seemed to think mine was the real deal after I PM'd him about this.
Fruity odor, taste of cherry/almond (that was my description). He said yes, Primo was very much like Amaretto. Also, the oil was clear and very thick. He said that was characteristic specifically of Schering products.
Hopefully yours
buffdoc
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my oil is perfectly clear and does smell fruity.....my only concern is the fact the boxes I was given are definately not real.....some of the amps were different sizes by a millinmeter or so also, not a lot but just slightly.....I don't know what to think at this point....why would the boxes be fake and the amps be real?
 
gilly6993 said:



my oil is perfectly clear and does smell fruity.....my only concern is the fact the boxes I was given are definately not real.....some of the amps were different sizes by a millinmeter or so also, not a lot but just slightly.....I don't know what to think at this point....why would the boxes be fake and the amps be real?
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Upon what criteria are you saying the boxes are fakes? Just a picture? Did you say something about perforations or something?
My amps are uniform in size, they also have a small (1 to 2 mm, only discernable w/ magnification), very regular horizontal file stroke just below the blue dot at the waist of the ampules neck; these are too consistent and regular to be anything but part of the manufacturing process; I've heard of this before. They allow the amps to crack easily when stressed in the direction of the dot.
 
Zoomster said:
Is Primo supposed to be clear? I had some that meet all of the characteristics of taste and smell, it was not clear.
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Was it yellowish? That is supposed to imply fakes, I believe. I guess "colorless" would be a better description, no oil would be completely clear.
 
buffdoc said:


Was it yellowish? That is supposed to imply fakes, I believe. I guess "colorless" would be a better description, no oil would be completely clear.
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I guess colorless would be better....I say the boxes are fake because they do not match any pics of the real boxes posted or in Anabolics 2002.....there is no perforations around the outside of the upc symbol and some of the printing does not match up....I broke one of my amps and took a wiff but my sense of smell is really bad....I asked my bud who has the same ones to take a whiff and see what he thinks.....
 
Also, they haven't made these amps in a few years....the exp dat is 2005....it just seems a little to long if they're legit.....
 
gilly6993 said:
Also, they haven't made these amps in a few years....the exp dat is 2005....it just seems a little to long if they're legit.....
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Hmmm. Mine exp March 2004. I got a PM from another European (Spain) who said there are stilll a number of these older amber colored amps that are legit floating around.
BTW, did you check yours for the tiny file scoring below the blue dot?
Also, taste that stuff.
 
I've got the score below the blue dot....didn't taste it yet....it does smell fruity though.....Maybe I'm being to skeptical...
 
gilly6993 said:
I've got the score below the blue dot....didn't taste it yet....it does smell fruity though.....Maybe I'm being to skeptical...
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Maybe you are. Seems like everything but the box is in order. Can't speak to that. I've started using it, though. I guess we'll see. I've had enough of the pruported experts tell me it's legit.
 
buffdoc said:




Maybe you are. Seems like everything but the box is in order. Can't speak to that. I've started using it, though. I guess we'll see. I've had enough of the pruported experts tell me it's legit.
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keep me updated....
 
gilly6993 said:



keep me updated....
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Gilly
Varvan, one of the Europeans, is convinced mine are real. He sent me pix of some amps, Lot 056, was identical to my Lot 053. His expire june 2004 (mine March 2004), so I guess they do have a decent shelf life.
 
buffdoc said:


Gilly
Varvan, one of the Europeans, is convinced mine are real. He sent me pix of some amps, Lot 056, was identical to my Lot 053. His expire june 2004 (mine March 2004), so I guess they do have a decent shelf life.
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....mine are Lot 066
 
Yes Vovan`s primo was definitely real and looks exactly like the primo on your picture. I bought a hell alot of primo something like one year ago. Most of them were new paper label primos from spain bu there were one box of primo with brown glass amps.
Oil is clear or colorless and very thick.

buffdoc said:


Gilly
Varvan, one of the Europeans, is convinced mine are real. He sent me pix of some amps, Lot 056, was identical to my Lot 053. His expire june 2004 (mine March 2004), so I guess they do have a decent shelf life.
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