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I tried oasis but they gave me the run around.....I already had my current blood work done and the free test was 4.7...They wanted this and that...and then the price was insane....

I'm 47 soon to be 48 so I'm a prime canidate...besides it would be nice to be legal
 
im actually getting a blood test today for something non aas related and the doc gave me one of those quest diagnostic forms to take to the place to get the blood work drawn.

he checked off compmetab/ckd, vap (TM) cholesterol test and liver panel II. if i wanna know what my free test is and anything else i might need in order to contact one of these clinics, what else should i check off on this form?

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mesco said:
im actually getting a blood test today for something non aas related and the doc gave me one of those quest diagnostic forms to take to the place to get the blood work drawn.

he checked off compmetab/ckd, vap (TM) cholesterol test and liver panel II. if i wanna know what my free test is and anything else i might need in order to contact one of these clinics, what else should i check off on this form?

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Some one told me that this does mean there ia medical record of your use. what do you guys think of that? I mean it is doc prescribed????

I am open with my doc about it.
 
The down sides would be that an insurance company checking the MIB (no not Men in Black, Medical Information Bureau) could deny you coverage. And a future employer may be able to access that information as well.
Not saying I'm against SBR, I used New Hope years ago with Dr Scruggs until the Feds got sick of him, pulled his medical records and after review pulled his license.
 
They can not check personal medical information, due to hipaa Laws they can not have any access to your med history. That being said, who cares if you have a medical history with a doctor prescribing your gear. Noone can look at it, and it can't be used against you in a court of law. So unless you kill someone steroids related, this doesn't matter. The only way to access this information is with a subpoena crime related.

Lost
 
Ulter said:
The down sides would be that an insurance company checking the MIB (no not Men in Black, Medical Information Bureau) could deny you coverage. And a future employer may be able to access that information as well.
Not saying I'm against SBR, I used New Hope years ago with Dr Scruggs until the Feds got sick of him, pulled his medical records and after review pulled his license.

Does this only apply for a clinic such as SBR? In other words, would insurance deny coverage if they saw any activity with SBR? This doesn't apply to a legit doctor who puts you on HRT, right? Many insurance companies covers HRT, right?
 
lostinfitness said:
They can not check personal medical information, due to hipaa Laws they can not have any access to your med history. That being said, who cares if you have a medical history with a doctor prescribing your gear. Noone can look at it, and it can't be used against you in a court of law. So unless you kill someone steroids related, this doesn't matter. The only way to access this information is with a subpoena crime related.

Lost

That I am 110% sure is incorrect information. My ex wife got denied a claim because she did not report a spider bite she went into a clinic to have checked a couple years prior to pre-cancerous growths. Sorry that is very very wrong!

Insurance companies and the IRS can kiss my fucking ass!! I have no love for either one of those crooked ass entities! IRS can not even pass their own audits. Insurance companies no matter what they tell you are the first people to look into a matter with glasses trained to get them out of paying a dime. screw them when you can I say!!
 
Not with SBR specifically. I don't know that an underwriter would single them out. They may just rate you up for having a medical condition that requires treatment every month. But you're in a tough spot because if you don't write it on the application they may just deny you coverage based on you not reporting it. Or they might add a rider to the policy say they won't cover it and rate you up.
I was in health insurance for 9 years. I've seen it all when it comes to what an underwriter will do.
 
Sorry for my previous vent on your thread but I feel very strongly against Insurance Co.'s and IRS little f%$king crooks
 
Ulter said:
Not with SBR specifically. I don't know that an underwriter would single them out. They may just rate you up for having a medical condition that requires treatment every month. But you're in a tough spot because if you don't write it on the application they may just deny you coverage based on you not reporting it. Or they might add a rider to the policy say they won't cover it and rate you up.
I was in health insurance for 9 years. I've seen it all when it comes to what an underwriter will do.

Hmm... our company provides really good medical benefits... I pay nothing out of pocket (only office and RX co-pays)... so if were to go on HRT in the near future, the worse I could expect is that they refuse to cover it? I mean, they won't drop me right? And if they raise the rates, that's something that my company would have to deal with, correct?
 
njmuscleguy said:
Hmm... our company provides really good medical benefits... I pay nothing out of pocket (only office and RX co-pays)... so if were to go on HRT in the near future, the worse I could expect is that they refuse to cover it? I mean, they won't drop me right? And if they raise the rates, that's something that my company would have to deal with, correct?


I do not know for sure but I would think they would be concerned about the affects that the media scares everyone about. i.e. steroids are known to cause high blood pressure which is the number one leading cause of heart attacks etc. if you do not die from it you can be pretty fucked up from it requiring years of therapy to get back as much motor skills as possible blah blah blah I am just throwing out a bs scenario that an insurance company would probably use to get out of having you on their policy because you pose more of a risk to their pocketbook. You have to think of Insurance companies as the slimy businesses they are. They are their to make money and that is it not to make sure you have adequate health care, they could care less about that. Just saying. Your questions are good and valid and should be throughly checked out so you do not find yourself holding the bag someday. Deny use! Deny use! Deny use! or just do not say anything about it at all.
 
CO B-man said:
I do not know for sure but I would think they would be concerned about the affects that the media scares everyone about. i.e. steroids are known to cause high blood pressure which is the number one leading cause of heart attacks etc. if you do not die from it you can be pretty fucked up from it requiring years of therapy to get back as much motor skills as possible blah blah blah I am just throwing out a bs scenario that an insurance company would probably use to get out of having you on their policy because you pose more of a risk to their pocketbook. You have to think of Insurance companies as the slimy businesses they are. They are their to make money and that is it not to make sure you have adequate health care, they could care less about that. Just saying. Your questions are good and valid and should be throughly checked out so you do not find yourself holding the bag someday. Deny use! Deny use! Deny use! or just do not say anything about it at all.

I don't understand...why should I deny use if it isn't being used recreationally... it's through a legit doctor for a valid medical purpose (HRT)... I don't care if they see it on my record if it means I don't have to pay $$$$ for HRT (right?)
 
njmuscleguy said:
I don't understand...why should I deny use if it isn't being used recreationally... it's through a legit doctor for a valid medical purpose (HRT)... I don't care if they see it on my record if it means I don't have to pay $$$$ for HRT (right?)


I had it prescribed legally also but for every clinic that thinks it is as great of an idea as we do I bet there are a bunch more doctors that only see the negative aspects of it. As far as an insurance company is concerned when you need them they are going to imediately look for everything they can to minimize their costs because they are scumbags. But Ulter is right it might not bite you in the ass now but when you get older maybe retire or start your own business or whatever the circumstances that may be that you might need to buy insurance on your own that is when they will use that to THEIR advantage.
 
CO B-man said:
I had it prescribed legally also but for every clinic that thinks it is as great of an idea as we do I bet there are a bunch more doctors that only see the negative aspects of it. As far as an insurance company is concerned when you need them they are going to imediately look for everything they can to minimize their costs because they are scumbags. But Ulter is right it might not bite you in the ass now but when you get older maybe retire or start your own business or whatever the circumstances that may be that you might need to buy insurance on your own that is when they will use that to THEIR advantage.

Well that just sux!
 
Personally I’m just after the prescription. I’ll pay for all the gear out of my own pocket. If you never place a claim for the prescription on your insurance (pay for it out of pocket) would you still screw yourself? I know you would have a medical record but with no real claims or evidence of gear usage on your insurance policy?
 
Dellyo said:
Personally I’m just after the prescription. I’ll pay for all the gear out of my own pocket. If you never place a claim for the prescription on your insurance (pay for it out of pocket) would you still screw yourself? I know you would have a medical record but with no real claims or evidence of gear usage on your insurance policy?


When you get a prescription and pick it up, do you have to prove who you are by showing I.D.? and does the prescription have your name on it? Then there are and is records that you picked it up whether you paid cash or not! They have that all figured out!

And if you are bieng smart and safe about it you will need to do blood-work to ensure you are not screwing yourself up bad.
 
I recently ordered a bunch of stuff from them with great results. I had access to get my own lab-work for free (they charge $200 which is quite reasonable) I submitted my labs friday and had my gear on tuesday. You don't get a copy of the prescription but the rx#, your name, md and dose are on the bottle. I ordered 6 vials of cyp and 4 vials of deca....... no probs!
 
Nice i just faxed blood work today and ordered 2 cyp and 1 deca. They said i was definately a candidate with my whopping 126 free testesterone. All i give a fuck about is the prescription, could care less about all the other bullshit.
 
Powermedica used to be pretty good to deal with online HRT clinic in Florida. Of course, the "100% legal" Powermedica turned out to be not so legal and they got busted. Turned out there wasn't a real doctor who was writing the scripts. Pretty scary sitting back and watching the news bust the place where you just bought a shitload of gear from.
 
pentatonic said:
Powermedica used to be pretty good to deal with online HRT clinic in Florida. Of course, the "100% legal" Powermedica turned out to be not so legal and they got busted. Turned out there wasn't a real doctor who was writing the scripts. Pretty scary sitting back and watching the news bust the place where you just bought a shitload of gear from.

Well as far as im concerned there dr is legit. Im not the wiser so its not on me.
 
galaxy said:
Well as far as im concerned there dr is legit. Im not the wiser so its not on me.

I assume that's why they never went after any of their clients, or as far as I know they didn't?? I know the DEA found records of local officers who used the clinic, which was kind of ironic. Seemed like there were about 6 or 7 officers who got caught.
 
Well im guessing powermedica didnt require blood work. SBR told me i needed ifg levels checked and faxed before i could purchase HGH. So im gonna say they have a legit dr. I believe theres tons of clinics in Florida so see no reason they wouldnt not to mention that would be pretty dumb after the powermedica busts.
 
I happen to use Oasis, but have spoken to the guys at SBR and am more than satisfied that they run a legit service. It might cost more than UG prices, but the peace of mind you get is worth it.
 
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