sore hamstrings....

[t3c]

my hammies are pretty sore from gms on sunday...its wed now. How much would it effect my squat if i took a pretty heavy single today? alot? i really don't want to wait till next week because it will drive me crazy

does the soreness effect strength?

 

[Zander1983]

Soreness is your body's way of saying, "I need more carbs and protein."

You're not fully recovered, so I'd say that it will effect your squat.

 

[casualbb]

Soreness isn't a very good indicator of anything. I'd say go ahead and do your squat. Maybe include a set of light GM's in your warmup to dispel some of the soreness and help you feel confident in attempting the single.

-casualbb

 

[gymtime]

Soreness isn't a very good indicator of anything. I'd say go ahead and do your squat. Maybe include a set of light GM's in your warmup to dispel some of the soreness and help you feel confident in attempting the single.

-casualbb

Agreed. You might still feel sore, but you've had plenty of time to recover since Sunday. I'd say go for it.

 

[t3c]

hell yea, thanks fellas!

 

[Zander1983]

I've done a bit more reading and have to take back what I said earlier and agree with these guys.

Go get a PR

 

[skaman607]

are you doing an ME attempt on DE day?

 

[t3c]

no sir, was just wondering because i was trying something heavier than my normal heavies

 

[t3c]

no sir, was just wondering because i was trying something heavier than my normal heavies

 

[t3c]

no sir, was just wondering because i was trying something heavier than my normal heavies

 

[collegiateLifter]

i would personally warm up on a stepper or something. If you feel ok then once warm with histamine and natural pain killers flowing, go for it. If you still feel uncomfortably sore, then I would take the day off.

 

[Lee]

make sure u stretch them hammies out too, dont wanna get a cramp in the middle of a squat.

 

[b fold the truth]

Icy Hot does wonders...

Listen to your body...

B True

 

[louden_swain]

To me. . . soreness indicates the presence of lactic acid and minor muscle tears. I would never ever train a sore muscle. I would take an additional day off.

 

[coolcolj]

I set PRs with sore muscles

 

[JOKER47]

Usually, sore muscles don't hinder a workout to much for me. But I recently took a week off, and got REAL sore hams from my first leg day back. The following Tuesday, (Leg day is Friday) I did heavy GM's, and had a terrible workout. I believe it was due to not being fully recovered yet from the previous leg day.

I will be smarter and go a little lighter if I am still that sore again. Like B-Fold said, I was not listening to my hams that day.

Of course, this is just my experience.


Joker

 

[louden_swain]

One time I tried to squat heavy with a sore and fatigued lower back. . . . .lets just say it was one of the worst training experiences ever! There is nothing wrong with adding a days worth of rest.

 

[casualbb]

I would never ever train a sore muscle.

Then be prepared to grow less.

"Listen to your body" isn't very good advice because the only feedback the body gives us, soreness and fatigue, are CNS factors unrelated to muscle growth.

Train through soreness. If it bugs you, do a submaximal set for the sore muscle groups and the soreness will go away.

-casualbb

 

[gymtime]

Then be prepared to grow less.

"Listen to your body" isn't very good advice because the only feedback the body gives us, soreness and fatigue, are CNS factors unrelated to muscle growth.

Train through soreness. If it bugs you, do a submaximal set for the sore muscle groups and the soreness will go away.

-casualbb

Exactly. To me, long as the muscle group has received at least 48 hours rest, you're free to train them again, sore or no. Now since I train everything once a week, I don't really run into that problem. However, I would never let sore hams from leg day stop me from doing deads on back day, again, long as there was sufficient recovery time allotted.

 

[louden_swain]

I have trained with sore muscles. I was unable to perform at 100 percent due to fatigue. Soreness is caused from lactic acid accumulation and tears in the muscle. From listening to my body, I have grown significantly. My development certainly hasn't suffered. It seems that people are more pre-occupied with tearing down a muscle rather than letting it grow.

 

[collegiateLifter]

"Listen to your body" isn't very good advice because the only feedback the body gives us, soreness and fatigue, are CNS factors unrelated to muscle growth.

There is emerging training coming out being officially called cybernetic training. Which basically is a fancy way of saying listen to your body; Supertraining discusses it. WSB do listen to their body when training and make apppropriate adjustments for that day. Alexyev did, to beat Redding..... people who are really attune to their body do so to great success.

 

[louden_swain]

Train through soreness. If it bugs you, do a submaximal set for the sore muscle groups and the soreness will go away.

-casualbb

That is totally unacceptable! Why perform a low intensity or a half ass set when I can perform at a 110 percent when I am fully recovered? When I am sore, I will perform massage therapy or light cardio to promote blood flow to help flush out the lactic acid and promote flow of nutrients. Light stretching also seems to help.

 

[casualbb]

I think you misinterpretted what I said. I mean do a submaximal set as a warmup, I didn't mean to drop the "intensity."

-casualbb

 

[JOKER47]

That is totally unacceptable! Why perform a low intensity or a half ass set when I can perform at a 110 percent when I am fully recovered? When I am sore, I will perform massage therapy or light cardio to promote blood flow to help flush out the lactic acid and promote flow of nutrients. Light stretching also seems to help.

Doing a lighter/less intense workout for muscles that are extremely sore/not fully recovered could be perceived as "active recovery" for those muscles. Which WOULD assist in recovery AND stimulate growth.

In my situation I mentioned in an ealier post in this thread, I would have been much better off doing just that.


Joker

 

[louden_swain]

casualbb and Joker,

I get you guys now. . .you are correct and I have read about this. Sorry for the misinterpretation.

 

[casualbb]

Wait, I don't mean active recovery. I'm an advocate of fully working a sore muscle, I just think that extra warmup might help psychologically and physiologically (to remove soreness before the work set(s)).

-casualbb

 

[gmanlax7]

this is a good thread

i like to hit body parts again a few days after their own day to help recovery/restimulate growth

some flat bench on back day, some squats on lowerback day, some pullups on chest day

T3C - you got any good morning vids you can post up ?

 

[cockdesiel]

Im with louden ...I never train a sore body part