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Someone explain the "I don't give a damn about my body" mentality...
- Thread starter Big Brother Val
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. I aint doing no fat chick, no fucking way.
Jennifer, currently I am obsessed with your body so you can take a break if you want to.
OK, now on to my .02
First off never make fun of a fat person it may come back to haunt you. I'm still what I consider to be fat even though by society's standards and comparisons I am prolly just a lil chubby. I'm coming down in weight from being really overweight (not obese, but more than 30 lbs overweight). I'm doing something about it because I felt the need to. End of story. You can't change anyone they have to change themselves. I have a good friend who is killing himself slowly right now but I don't hassle him about it. He's a giant compared to me 6'3" and all of 400 lbs. He's a great guy who can't walk up a flight of stairs without being winded. I've personally seen him eat (in one sitting mind you) 2 big macs, large fries, a big and tasty, and a whopper for dessert. This totally blew my mind. For one thing I hadn't eaten at the time and was salivating like Pavlov's dog. The second thing I realized there must be more to this than meets the eye. We got to talking about diet because he has seen the change in me. Found out he eats because he is depressed and then gets more deporessed that he can't control it and then has a snowball effect. He asked about working out with me and talked of his days as an offensive lineman and his injuries that ended his dream of playing college ball. He mentioned his inactivity and how he can't eat like he used to when playing ball and such. He knows what he needs to do. I told him when he felt he was ready for a lifestyle change that he could come by the gym and work out with me anytime he wanted but not until then.
One thing that I have noticed is the talkers. The people who are constantly saying "I need to start working out", or "Yeah, been thinking of joining a gym." Whenever I hear this I always ask, well, why haven't you? Then listen to their 6000 excuses. I respond with well when you truly feel the need to change you will do so, and then add that is a lot easier to just do something than it is to talk about it. I am getting too long winded here... to make a long story short... people can only change themselves. If they are content to be the weight they are at then they will continue to do so. Don't let it bother you so much.
Rich
OK, now on to my .02
First off never make fun of a fat person it may come back to haunt you. I'm still what I consider to be fat even though by society's standards and comparisons I am prolly just a lil chubby. I'm coming down in weight from being really overweight (not obese, but more than 30 lbs overweight). I'm doing something about it because I felt the need to. End of story. You can't change anyone they have to change themselves. I have a good friend who is killing himself slowly right now but I don't hassle him about it. He's a giant compared to me 6'3" and all of 400 lbs. He's a great guy who can't walk up a flight of stairs without being winded. I've personally seen him eat (in one sitting mind you) 2 big macs, large fries, a big and tasty, and a whopper for dessert. This totally blew my mind. For one thing I hadn't eaten at the time and was salivating like Pavlov's dog. The second thing I realized there must be more to this than meets the eye. We got to talking about diet because he has seen the change in me. Found out he eats because he is depressed and then gets more deporessed that he can't control it and then has a snowball effect. He asked about working out with me and talked of his days as an offensive lineman and his injuries that ended his dream of playing college ball. He mentioned his inactivity and how he can't eat like he used to when playing ball and such. He knows what he needs to do. I told him when he felt he was ready for a lifestyle change that he could come by the gym and work out with me anytime he wanted but not until then.
One thing that I have noticed is the talkers. The people who are constantly saying "I need to start working out", or "Yeah, been thinking of joining a gym." Whenever I hear this I always ask, well, why haven't you? Then listen to their 6000 excuses. I respond with well when you truly feel the need to change you will do so, and then add that is a lot easier to just do something than it is to talk about it. I am getting too long winded here... to make a long story short... people can only change themselves. If they are content to be the weight they are at then they will continue to do so. Don't let it bother you so much.
Rich
some people look for "inner beauty" They believe looks do not matter. Now i can understand if you are not in perfect shape because looks are not your priority but i'm with you. Some people are just extremely unhealthy. Working out isn't my life, but i like to stay in shape and not look like a whale. I guess I just don't understand
Big Brother Val
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I apologize if I offended anyone by this. That was my intention. And it's not that I'm judging them in a negative way. I guess I just don't understand the logic behind letting yourself gain so much bodyfat.
When I see someone have to put forth a good deal of effort, and hold their breath to stand up out of their chair... yes... I do feel bad for them.
But I also envy them in a way. When they buy something, some of them will buy things that have a "slimming" effect. Others just don't care either way. Out of shape people can buy clothes that simply look good. When I buy something, I'm constantly wondering if it makes my arms look small... or my waist look bigger than it is, taking away from my V-shape.
They do not have these worries.
So yes, I think they're more secure about themselves than I am.
I just don't understand how a person can stand to take up that much space. How they don't envy all the good lookin' bodies that are intentionally stuck in front of them on the TV every night.
Winstrol the Pooh- Outstanding post. I agree with what you've said. I don't want to force my beliefs/lifestyle on them. I just don't know why they are content. I know they don't look at their bodies and jump for joy. I know when they wear a swimsuit they don't like how they look. I just don't know why they don't do something about it.
Gymnpoppa- I used to be a personal trainer as well. I know just what you mean.
Alcatraz- I apologize if I offended you. I meant in no way to attack people with excess bodyfat. Just asking for insight into a way of thinking that I can't comprehend.
Jennifer- Thank you for taking the time in this post. Your info has given a lot of insight.
Nordstrom- Nice posting. Thank you.
Saint- I try to not let it bother me. But it's EVERYWHERE I look. Again, no offense to anyone... but if I stand up right now, and look around..... yep... I see 2-3 overweight people in EVERY DIRECTION.... there are roughly 300 people in this general area... and I'm going to say 65% of them right now are overweight. 40% of them are carrying a LOT of extra weight. I just wish I could understand.
So to recap... I apologize for any offense I may have caused by this thread. I did not mean to attack anyone at all. I envy their confidence, but can't tell how much of their confidence is superficial. I don't know how they feel when they're sitting at home and good-bodied people are popping up on the tv screen every 2 minutes. Maybe they just don't care. Maybe they get uncomfortable when their spouses look at nice bodies with that "wishful thinking" look in their eyes. Maybe they hate how they look.
I really don't know. And that's what confuses me.
When I see someone have to put forth a good deal of effort, and hold their breath to stand up out of their chair... yes... I do feel bad for them.
But I also envy them in a way. When they buy something, some of them will buy things that have a "slimming" effect. Others just don't care either way. Out of shape people can buy clothes that simply look good. When I buy something, I'm constantly wondering if it makes my arms look small... or my waist look bigger than it is, taking away from my V-shape.
They do not have these worries.
So yes, I think they're more secure about themselves than I am.
I just don't understand how a person can stand to take up that much space. How they don't envy all the good lookin' bodies that are intentionally stuck in front of them on the TV every night.
Winstrol the Pooh- Outstanding post. I agree with what you've said. I don't want to force my beliefs/lifestyle on them. I just don't know why they are content. I know they don't look at their bodies and jump for joy. I know when they wear a swimsuit they don't like how they look. I just don't know why they don't do something about it.
Gymnpoppa- I used to be a personal trainer as well. I know just what you mean.
Alcatraz- I apologize if I offended you. I meant in no way to attack people with excess bodyfat. Just asking for insight into a way of thinking that I can't comprehend.
Jennifer- Thank you for taking the time in this post. Your info has given a lot of insight.
Nordstrom- Nice posting. Thank you.
Saint- I try to not let it bother me. But it's EVERYWHERE I look. Again, no offense to anyone... but if I stand up right now, and look around..... yep... I see 2-3 overweight people in EVERY DIRECTION.... there are roughly 300 people in this general area... and I'm going to say 65% of them right now are overweight. 40% of them are carrying a LOT of extra weight. I just wish I could understand.
So to recap... I apologize for any offense I may have caused by this thread. I did not mean to attack anyone at all. I envy their confidence, but can't tell how much of their confidence is superficial. I don't know how they feel when they're sitting at home and good-bodied people are popping up on the tv screen every 2 minutes. Maybe they just don't care. Maybe they get uncomfortable when their spouses look at nice bodies with that "wishful thinking" look in their eyes. Maybe they hate how they look.
I really don't know. And that's what confuses me.
Bodhidogma
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Winstrol the Pooh - awesome answer bro. when i can give karma again, tis yours.
Here is one thought:
You're 30 years old. You are in great shape. You've worked your butt off and now you have a six figure job as a bond trader on the 103rd floor of the world Trade Center.
vs.
You're 30. You're overweight. You make $12.00 an hour cleaning high-rise office buildings at night.
Well, guess who is dead? And all the working otu didn;t help, did it? This fatlistic point of view is present in many out of shaoe people, in one way or another.
You're 30 years old. You are in great shape. You've worked your butt off and now you have a six figure job as a bond trader on the 103rd floor of the world Trade Center.
vs.
You're 30. You're overweight. You make $12.00 an hour cleaning high-rise office buildings at night.
Well, guess who is dead? And all the working otu didn;t help, did it? This fatlistic point of view is present in many out of shaoe people, in one way or another.
Big Brother Val
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Matt... that's true.
George Carlin once talked about working out. Talked about all the muscleheads who eat right, and workout every day, and stay in great shape, only to die anyway.
It's true that no matter how much we work out... we will all die. But while I'm alive, I don't want to be embarrassed when I take my shirt off.
George Carlin once talked about working out. Talked about all the muscleheads who eat right, and workout every day, and stay in great shape, only to die anyway.
It's true that no matter how much we work out... we will all die. But while I'm alive, I don't want to be embarrassed when I take my shirt off.
The Varnsen
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Matt what does the good shape have to do with the money one makes?
Nordstrom said it better.
Nordstrom said it better.
jennifer BFL chick
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When I was overweight, I honestly wasn't jealous of women that were in shape----seriously. I knew they worked hard to get what they wanted, and I didn't.
Too many people judge how happy they are by the way they look. Sure it makes you feel better, but life still has its ups and downs.
Again, when I was big, I didn't totally hate myself, I just didn't wear tight cloths.
Alot of body builders, are no different from anorexics or bulimics. They are obsessed with their bodies, and that's all that matters to them---so they don't understand people that don't care about their body, and let it go. They have high self esteem when things are going the way they want with their body, but once it starts to slow down, or go in a direction they don't want--they become very depressed. I know, because I use to live that way.
I'm glad I'm finally not obsessed over my body. I'm dedicated, but not obsessed.
Too many people judge how happy they are by the way they look. Sure it makes you feel better, but life still has its ups and downs.
Again, when I was big, I didn't totally hate myself, I just didn't wear tight cloths.
Alot of body builders, are no different from anorexics or bulimics. They are obsessed with their bodies, and that's all that matters to them---so they don't understand people that don't care about their body, and let it go. They have high self esteem when things are going the way they want with their body, but once it starts to slow down, or go in a direction they don't want--they become very depressed. I know, because I use to live that way.
I'm glad I'm finally not obsessed over my body. I'm dedicated, but not obsessed.
