somebody get me through this nightmare...I CANT CONTROL MYSELF!!!

[Sub-Zero]

So what if you can see the darkest side of me?
No one will ever change this animal I have become
Help me believe it's not the real me
Somebody help me tame this animal

this will be my theme song when i start juicing

 

[Faizakafez]

just juice now ..problem solved..

 

[Sub-Zero]

i dont wanna be stuck at 5'5

 

[Faizakafez]

im 5'5

but juice stunting your growth? meh i call b.s. or growth plates not fused

 

[Sub-Zero]

you dont think steroids stunt growth?

 

[Faizakafez]

no,

how tall are you parents?

my dad is 5'4 mom is 5'1 i really dont think i had much going for me..

also the natty potential thing is bullshit? how are you supposed to gauge ur natural limits... oh okay *looks at watch* ding my natty potential is up..

 

[Sub-Zero]

haha im sure they are both exagerated, but what about fucking with hormone levels too early or someshit

 

[Faizakafez]

haha im sure they are both exagerated, but what about fucking with hormone levels too early or someshit

how old are you 19?

meh, okay you have alot of hormones now injecting test will add more.. proper p c t and stuff bring everything back..

Honestly in my opinion if your diet and training is wikced sick you should be fine..

the typical board answer " you havent reached your potential" or wait till you break 200lbs to juice

 

[Sub-Zero]

how old are you 19?

meh, okay you have alot of hormones now injecting test will add more.. proper p c t and stuff bring everything back..

Honestly in my opinion if your diet and training is wikced sick you should be fine..

the typical board answer " you havent reached your potential" or wait till you break 200lbs to juice

i already broke 200

 

[FISHTALES]

some light dose var

 

[Faizakafez]

pfftt

shoot some gear... lols

 

[Faizakafez]

its personally decision really if your ready smart enough and have

solid

diet/training plan then its up to you..

i dont juice... thats my choice

 

[Sub-Zero]

some light dose Anavar - oxandrolone -

if i could get this would i have to run any PCT or anything? more info plz on this anavar cycle.

would i run dermacrine during or just after

 

[Faizakafez]

why would you want to do a var only cycle?

strength and hardness but.. nothing else

personally var is exepensive and not worth the price..

you can get the same results from tr en for cheaper

yes you need p c t

 

[Faizakafez]

alright im going to bed.. just hit me up 2morrow if u want with your diet and shit..

 

[Sub-Zero]

why would you want to do a Anavar - oxandrolone - only cycle?

strength and hardness but.. nothing else

personally Anavar - oxandrolone - is exepensive and not worth the price..

you can get the same results from tr en for cheaper

yes you need p c t

i guess ill wait till im old enough to shoot up

 

[FISHTALES]

why would you want to do a Anavar - oxandrolone - only cycle?

strength and hardness but.. nothing else

personally Anavar - oxandrolone - is exepensive and not worth the price..

you can get the same results from tr en for cheaper

yes you need p c t

because hes worried about a few things.
he can do some 4 week on 4 week off var, at lower dose, almost zero sides, no "growth stunting" easy pct, and it will give him a little push physically and mentally. I dont think hes getting paid to do it, and unless there is something we dont know, hes not going to be a pro-bodybuilder. this way he gets a small taste, but can still learn a lot more about all the other shit in the meantime.

 

[Cal_21]

because hes worried about a few things.
he can do some 4 week on 4 week off Anavar - oxandrolone - , at lower dose, almost zero sides, no "growth stunting" easy PCT - post cycle therapy - , and it will give him a little push physically and mentally. I dont think hes getting paid to do it, and unless there is something we dont know, hes not going to be a pro-bodybuilder. this way he gets a small taste, but can still learn a lot more about all the other shit in the meantime.

Interesting. Have you run an Anavar cycle? If so, results?

 

[FISHTALES]

Interesting. Have you run an Anavar cycle? If so, results?

yes, good hardness, vascularity, some strength, not to much weight, but was not eating to gain. I like using it in between other cycles.. but its SO SO important for sub, to use it as PART of his plan, not all. he must still eat, sleep, and train proper or there is no point.

 

[FISHTALES]

....and it shouldnt cost him more than 4-5 dollars a day to do it.

 

[Jon79]

i wish my pubes were emo so they would cut themselves

 

[Cal_21]

i wish my pubes were emo so they would cut themselves

lolololololol

 

[samoth]

the typical board answer " you havent reached your potential" or wait till you break 200lbs to juice

If there weren't thousands of young sheep flocking to public internet forums asking where to get steroids, we wouldn't need such a typical answer.


Most people don't know what the fuck they're doing.

The more idiots in the scene, the riskier it is for the rest of us.

You can easily fuck yourself up by self-administering illegal injectable hormones.

The "natural potential" phrase is echoed because most new sheep to the scene want to start injecting potentially dangerous drugs before they even know how to work out.


The key here, if you haven't figured it out yet, is harm prevention.


One person telling a bunch of 150 pound kids to start taking steroids makes the rest of us look bad. And we really, really don't like a few rogue idiots making us look bad. Comprende?

 

[Faizakafez]

If there weren't thousands of young sheep flocking to public internet forums asking where to get steroids, we wouldn't need such a typical answer.


Most people don't know what the fuck they're doing.

The more idiots in the scene, the riskier it is for the rest of us.

You can easily fuck yourself up by self-administering illegal injectable hormones.

The "natural potential" phrase is echoed because most new sheep to the scene want to start injecting potentially dangerous drugs before they even know how to work out.


The key here, if you haven't figured it out yet, is harm prevention.


One person telling a bunch of 150 pound kids to start taking steroids makes the rest of us look bad. And we really, really don't like a few rogue idiots making us look bad. Comprende?

yup,

mind you if you look at my answers in the aas forum they are more then elobarte and do not promote use. But subz is diffreent i know he is

a) not a tool

b) has been training like a manaic

c) knows his stuff

that is all,

 

[timtim]

how long have you been training sub?

 

[Sub-Zero]

how long have you been training sub?

i joined a gym after 2003-2004 wrestling season ended

started maybe over 20% bf at mid 140's and now im around 15% and 200 at 5'7

 

[H_T_]

3 words: simmer down now...

 

[Faizakafez]

my nipple is itchy... fuck

 

[abolish the weak]

that song is fucking awesome,and I've never even been a big 3 days grace fan. NVR gets old

 

[timtim]

i joined a gym after 2003-2004 wrestling season ended

started maybe over 20% bf at mid 140's and now im around 15% and 200 at 5'7

its up to you if you want to run anything. i would wait a few more years. i waited 10 before i started. it was worth it. youve made great gains, why not continue and see what else you can get.

 

[pdaddyII]

I never saw the point in juicing unless I was planning on making a career out of the appearance of my body. The shit gets expensive in a hurry. Just be sure you know what you're doing first. I personally say you should wait until at least 24 when your natural test production begins to slow down a bit. These other people telling you to do it just don't love you the way I do.

 

[Sub-Zero]

its up to you if you want to run anything. i would wait a few more years. i waited 10 before i started. it was worth it. youve made great gains, why not continue and see what else you can get.

good point man, i need to just clear my head. i think juicing right now would be more of a jealousy/mental thing. iv decided to hit up some NO-X at the beginning of this semester as a mental boost. iv never done it before, or creatine, or anything but food and whey, so i think it should at the very least placebo affect me nicely.

 

[timtim]

good point man, i need to just clear my head. i think juicing right now would be more of a jealousy/mental thing. iv decided to hit up some NO-X at the beginning of this semester as a mental boost. iv never done it before, or creatine, or anything but food and whey, so i think it should at the very least placebo affect me nicely.

good idea. take time. you have along time to cycle. its best now to use your brain, diet, and training to grow. once that had topped out then the drugs come into play.

 

[Spartacus]

25

 

[Phaded]

i ran anavar only and i loved it.. i might do it agian

 

[crazyjoe]

just juice now ..problem solved..

 

[wootoom]

good old canadian band