Some Questions about Adropen

[StangMan]

Just have some quick questions about this stuff. If I were to take two shots a week (Mon/Thu 1cc each/10 weeks), how long would this stuff take to start noticing it. Also would something like clomid be a good PCT by itself? Any side effect I should look out for other then the usual? Thanks for the help in advance.

 

[jokerswild]

Just have some quick questions about this stuff. If I were to take two shots a week (Mon/Thu 1cc each/10 weeks), how long would this stuff take to start noticing it. Also would something like clomid be a good PCT - post cycle therapy - by itself? Any side effect I should look out for other then the usual? Thanks for the help in advance.

3-5 weeks

 

[StangMan]

Stuff work good say with some Deca or so?

 

[ukkared]

This is pretty much what I am doing although i also have deca and started with d-bol. I really started to notice it week 5. I would take a little more d-bol the next time around though, like 50mg/day or maybe take adrol instead.

 

[StangMan]

What are the gains like on the Andropen?

 

[al420]

Andropen should be taken like Sust - EOD worst case. It has Prop on it, so if you asren;t shooting EOD or at worst E3D you are losing the benifits of all the esters. Go to Basskillers website and take a look at blood levels on Sust - which is what Andropen is. Keeping blood levels stable reduces sides, and make for a more beneficial cycle.

I have done a few cycles w/ Andropen as my test base - I liked it. I did 4cc's per week split into EOD shoots. I ran it w/ BD's decabol and BD Dbol..... Nice, productive cycles.

 

[StangMan]

Wow EOD huh? I was told by a previous user that all I would need is a Mon/Thu split. The bottle should last 5 weeks with 2 shots a week and I should use 2 bottles. If I did 4 jabs a week that would result in a 5 week cycle off 2 bottles.

 

[lartinos]

e3d will work fine too. Twice a week your levels just flucuate a little more.

 

[StangMan]

Ok so with Adropen I can do a Monday, Thursday, Sunday, Wend, ETc... saftly?

 

[iceman7230]

Wow EOD huh? I was told by a previous user that all I would need is a Mon/Thu split. The bottle should last 5 weeks with 2 shots a week and I should use 2 bottles. If I did 4 jabs a week that would result in a 5 week cycle off 2 bottles.

If you go eod just do .5cc's eod and that will be the same as 1cc 2 times a week. Ya know what I mean mang!

 

[StangMan]

Ok sounds good. Half a CC EOD and this stuff will work?

 

[ukkared]

I love andropen and sus but its not the cheapest on the market. I'm gonna splurge for the next cycle and shoot every other day

 

[al420]

EOD - half a CC EOD -

Did you look at Basskillers website, and see the blood level charts? If you did you would be doing EOD shots.

 

[StangMan]

Yep I read up, and half a CC EOD is what I am doing. Thanks for your help!

 

[Big_Joe]

Andropen should be taken like Sustanon - EOD worst case. It has testosterone propionate on it, so if you asren;t shooting EOD or at worst E3D you are losing the benifits of all the esters. Go to Basskillers website and take a look at blood levels on Sust - which is what Andropen is. Keeping blood levels stable reduces sides, and make for a more beneficial cycle.

I have done a few cycles w/ Andropen as my test base - I liked it. I did 4cc's per week split into EOD shoots. I ran it w/ BD's decabol and BD Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ..... Nice, productive cycles.

I don't want this to sound like a flame but I think the stuff abut sus on basskillers site is so much BS. Besides the fact that the charts look like they were done with crayon the only way for them to come up with this info is to use a differential equation not half lives. And then they need to know the rate that esterase enzymes are available at the site. In other words I don't believe it for a minute.

I have seen a number of people say that you lose the effect of the prop ester if you aren't doing eod injections. How can this be true did the test prop just disappear? What happened to "test is test" once the ester is cleaved off you are left with testosterone. And it the same testosterone if it's prop ester or enanthate ester. It all becomes testosterone before it does anything in your body.

I agree with you that stable blood levels are important but using the kind of reasoning found on Bass Killers site about sus will not get you there.

 

[ironclaw]

I don't want this to sound like a flame but I think the stuff abut sus on basskillers site is so much BS. Besides the fact that the charts look like they were done with crayon the only way for them to come up with this info is to use a differential equation not half lives. And then they need to know the rate that esterase enzymes are available at the site. In other words I don't believe it for a minute.

I have seen a number of people say that you lose the effect of the testosterone propionate ester if you aren't doing eod injections. How can this be true did the test testosterone propionate just disappear? What happened to "test is test" once the ester is cleaved off you are left with testosterone. And it the same testosterone if it's testosterone propionate ester or enanthate ester. It all becomes testosterone before it does anything in your body.

I agree with you that stable blood levels are important but using the kind of reasoning found on Bass Killers site about sus will not get you there.

not trying to be a dick, but do you know how different esters work?

 

[needtogetaas]

Andropen should be taken like Sustanon - EOD worst case. It has testosterone propionate on it, so if you asren;t shooting EOD or at worst E3D you are losing the benifits of all the esters. Go to Basskillers website and take a look at blood levels on Sust - which is what Andropen is. Keeping blood levels stable reduces sides, and make for a more beneficial cycle.

I have done a few cycles w/ Andropen as my test base - I liked it. I did 4cc's per week split into EOD shoots. I ran it w/ BD's decabol and BD Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ..... Nice, productive cycles.

dame good advice I was going to say the same....ill tell you this adropin275 at 825mg ew deca 600mg ew and dbol 60mg ed was the best cycle I have ever had
gained insane amounts of size and strength.it was just unreal...the back acne after the cycle sucked big time though.

 

[Big_Joe]

not trying to be a dick, but do you know how different esters work?

Yes I do do you???

 

[needtogetaas]

Yes I do do you???

well do you?and how about you do you???

 

[Big_Joe]

well do you?and how about you do you???

Because you are being ambiguous in your statement I'm not sure if you are referring to me when you say "you" so which "you" are you referring to?

But here is a hint:
Why is testosterone suspension, that is nonesterified testosterone, suspended in water and esterified testosterone in an oil solution???

 

[needtogetaas]

Because you are being ambiguous in your statement I'm not sure if you are referring to me when you say "you" so which "you" are you referring to?

But here is a hint:
Why is testosterone suspension, that is nonesterified testosterone, suspended in water and esterified testosterone in an oil solution???

because I'm the fucking man that why.