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Some people deserve to die

Buddy_Christ

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I'll keep this as short as possible, because it could be really long if I'm not careful. It is kinda long too, but I couldn't drop necessary details.

My gf and her ex-husband have a daughter together (I'll call her B). Me and her have a son together.

Her ex is not allowed to see their daughter unless it's supervised in some way shape or form. When B goes to see his parents, they allow him to see her provided they are there and my gf is fine with that. BTW, his parents are awesome people, I get along with them great. They pretty much hate their son now because he's a piece of shit.

He got remarried almost 2 years ago and his new wife is a c*nt. They moved in with his parents right around xmas time as they had just moved back to the state and had no where to stay. After a few months they were to the point that his parents were going to throw them out because they hated his wife and how she acted.

So they moved out, and shortly afterwards his parents were cleaning up in the room they stayed in and found 2 pipes. His older brother identified both - one was for pot, the other was a crack pipe. Awesome, totally awesome.

In the past few months he's become more and more of an asshole to his parents, which is breaking his mother's heart. His wife doesn't like him seeing his family or being around them, but when he does see them, she's there and she acts like a royal bitch.

Things came to a major head yesterday. B and her grandmother went out to play minuature golf, and B's father and his wife were there too. B's grandmother was trying to teach her how to do it right and he kept being a cocksucker and yelling at his mother while saying "she's a kid, let her do what she wants." Well, she's 8 years old, and we are all of the opinion that if she's going to try something new, it's best to teach her the RIGHT way. She's not too young to learn either. She's also the type of child that if you don't teach her how to do something, she'll never want to do it right. You have to show her the right way to do things the first time around. Her grandmother wasn't criticizing her or putting her down either, that's not the way she does things. We know how she is with B, she'll show her the right way to do something and then praise her, even if she's only doing it half right, then continue showing her how to do it right. Pretty simple shit there, that's how you teach a child something new.

They eventually erupted into a massive fight right there, with the bitch wife up in B's grandmother's face, screaming and yelling, and they were telling B that me and her mother are horrible people, she shouldn't be living with us, he was going to take her away from us so she could live with HIM, he was telling his mother how horrible she is and that she shouldn't be around B any more....this is NOT the type of shit you pull in front of a child.

B was scared and crying hysterically, and kept saying how she loves her mommy and daddy (she called ME daddy, she calls her own father daddy "insert his name here", which really pisses him off, but he's a piece of shit and has never been a father to her). He's fucking 28 years old and has no fucking brain in his head. He kept saying over and over again how he's going to take her to go live with him, how "bad" I am, how I don't love her....who in their right fucking mind does this shit in front of a child?! My parents had a NASTY divorce but even my fucking bitch mother never did that shit in front of us.

Personally, I don't give a shit what types of fights he has with his parents, although I do feel bad for them that their youngest son is fucking worthless. However, him doing that shit in front of B was unfuckingnecessary. Me and my gf fight occasionally but we NEVER do it in front of the children. We try to take it as far away from them as possible, although that's not always possible, we do our absolute best.

The whole thing has me pissed off because he did that in front of her. B's grandparents said last night that they will no longer allow her father to see her, which my gf has not a single problem with. At this point if he wants to see her, he's going to have to get a custody order from the court, which will just make him look like shit with all the stuff my gf has on him (actual court documentation from another state, he's completely fucked for ever getting unsupervised custody, and that's a good thing). If he was an actual responsible parent, then him seeing her wouldn't be a problem at all, but he's fucking worthless.

I feel really bad for B. She's got a piece of shit father. At least she knows that she has me and her mother who do love her.

Ok, end rant. I'm just pissed and needed to vent. I'd love to go rip his head off right about now and break half the bones in his body.
 
wow man. Its threads like this that make me realize how much responsibility it is being a parent. I will likely be one one day, but man, that is intense.
 
that sucks. she'll know the truth as she gets older and you'll be a stronger influence in her life than you even realize, i'm sure.
 
Listen Bro, i'll go and hit him for you, i'll even wave my normal fee as he sounds like a right piece of scum.

one in the head one in the heart, does that sound ok for you?
 
Lestat said:
wow man. Its threads like this that make me realize how much responsibility it is being a parent. I will likely be one one day, but man, that is intense.

Yeah, it gets tricky sometimes, especially when dealing with parents that are split up.

I will laugh my ass off if he files for custody. He was screaming some shit about having joint custody, getting B for 6 months out of the year. It will NEVER happen, especially since they're planning on moving out to sacramento and we're in PA.

To top it off, in the past 4 years he's only paid child support for 16 months. He paid $150/mo for that long, then the Marine Corps said "You're a real piece of shit so after 8 years in we're not going to let you re-enlist." That ended the child support, as the state gave him a break to find another job. Well it's been a year and a half and the support is supposed to start back up this month at $150/mo. She's fighting for child support for 2 reasons. The first reason is to piss him off. The second reason is that in the past 4 years, he's been able to "be a father" when he wants to, as in seeing his daughter when she's at her grandparent's house, and then he can walk away without any responsibility.
 
stilleto said:
that sucks. she'll know the truth as she gets older and you'll be a stronger influence in her life than you even realize, i'm sure.

Yeah, even though it might not happen until she's in her 20s, she'll realize it eventually. It wasn't until I became a father that I realized just how good my dad was to us when we were growing up.

I just feel so bad for her that she's caught in the middle of this shit. No kid should be in the middle of that. Even though her father is a complete piece of shit, we never talk bad about him. In the past 6 months, she's gone to see her grandparents for the weekend or whatever and her father had made plans to come over and see her, which she was told about. More than half of those times he never showed up. She's starting to see and understand just how little he cares.
 
I HAVE BAD WIND said:
Listen Bro, i'll go and hit him for you, i'll even wave my normal fee as he sounds like a right piece of scum.

one in the head one in the heart, does that sound ok for you?

No matter how much we hate him, we don't want him dead until after she's 18. Some child support would be nice.

My gf has discussed getting him to sign his rights away, but he never will. Even if he did, we'd never take her away from her grandparents. They love her too much and she thinks the world of them, even though she was mad at grandpa the first time she went over there and saw a dead deer strung up in the basement, ready to be butchered. She still gives him shit for hunting deer and usually won't speak to him for a day or so if she's there during hunting season and he comes home with a kill.
 
Poor kid has like 11 parents. And a bunch of them suck. I suppose we'll skip the questionnaire on socio economic data and allow the crack pipe and prevention of re-enlistment to speak for itself.

Here's some advice. Most of the adults are using the kid for some sort of emotional leverage.

Clearly this harms the child, teaches B powerlessness, makes her blame herself for all of this stuff, and, yes, you guessed it, starts her down the path to adult dysfunctionality.

So, don't participate. When the kid is around you, be the best role model you can. When she's not, don't get involved with the other human garbage that plays these games. Just don't bother.

Take away perceived leverage and watch behavior change.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Poor kid has like 11 parents. And a bunch of them suck. I suppose we'll skip the questionnaire on socio economic data and allow the crack pipe and prevention of re-enlistment to speak for itself.

Here's some advice. Most of the adults are using the kid for some sort of emotional leverage.

Clearly this harms the child, teaches B powerlessness, makes her blame herself for all of this stuff, and, yes, you guessed it, starts her down the path to adult dysfunctionality.

So, don't participate. When the kid is around you, be the best role model you can. When she's not, don't get involved with the other human garbage that plays these games. Just don't bother.

Take away perceived leverage and watch behavior change.
great advice Matt
 
foreigngirl said:
poor kid.....

Thanks douchebag. Good post whore too.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Poor kid has like 11 parents. And a bunch of them suck. I suppose we'll skip the questionnaire on socio economic data and allow the crack pipe and prevention of re-enlistment to speak for itself.

Here's some advice. Most of the adults are using the kid for some sort of emotional leverage.

Clearly this harms the child, teaches B powerlessness, makes her blame herself for all of this stuff, and, yes, you guessed it, starts her down the path to adult dysfunctionality.

So, don't participate. When the kid is around you, be the best role model you can. When she's not, don't get involved with the other human garbage that plays these games. Just don't bother.

Take away perceived leverage and watch behavior change.

We are smart enough to not play those emotional games with her. No matter how much shit her father has said about us in the past, we don't turn around and talk shit about him. There have been many times she's seen him and then come home and told us that he said we don't love her.

She has a very stable life here with us. I raise her as my own child and she knows we love her and care about her.

We really need to look into setting something up just in case anything would happen to my gf. Her and B's grandparents all want me to have custody of her if something should ever happen. Not sure what we have to do though, maybe go through the courts so I have legal gaurdianship of her. This recent explosion of bullshit is just a wakeup call to us that we need to get those things in place NOW. If something happened to my gf and B's father got full custody, she'd live a horrible life.
 
crak600 said:
Yeah, even though it might not happen until she's in her 20s, she'll realize it eventually. It wasn't until I became a father that I realized just how good my dad was to us when we were growing up.

I just feel so bad for her that she's caught in the middle of this shit. No kid should be in the middle of that. Even though her father is a complete piece of shit, we never talk bad about him. In the past 6 months, she's gone to see her grandparents for the weekend or whatever and her father had made plans to come over and see her, which she was told about. More than half of those times he never showed up. She's starting to see and understand just how little he cares.


all the more reason why she'll need to see that you DO care as she grows into a teenager. thats the time she'll be looking to replace that male love and affection if she feels her life lacked it.
 
crak600 said:
Yeah, it gets tricky sometimes, especially when dealing with parents that are split up.

I will laugh my ass off if he files for custody. He was screaming some shit about having joint custody, getting B for 6 months out of the year. It will NEVER happen, especially since they're planning on moving out to sacramento and we're in PA.

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oh boy if he comes out to Ca i'd be more than happy to beat his ass...but since i'm a man i wouldn't be able to do anything to the female bitch counterpart of his...but i'm sure there's some beautiful/athletic woman on this site in cali willing to do the job...

in the past 3 years...4 people i was close to died...i wish death took away assholes like this from the planet instead of the people we care about...it's ok...if his pipes don't get rid of his existence...maybe you'll luck out n his psycho gf goes even crazier n kills him then shoots herself (we can only hope :verygood: )

edit: i'm talking after B's 18 of course...so you get that child support :jester:
until then let the bastards move and good riddance...people in Ca aren't as patient as those in PA i'm SURE...so he will probably piss someone bigger/better than him here n get his ass beat either way...
 
stilleto said:
all the more reason why she'll need to see that you DO care as she grows into a teenager. thats the time she'll be looking to replace that male love and affection if she feels her life lacked it.

Doin my best :)


1_more_rep said:
oh boy if he comes out to Ca i'd be more than happy to beat his ass...but since i'm a man i wouldn't be able to do anything to the female bitch counterpart of his...but i'm sure there's some beautiful/athletic woman on this site in cali willing to do the job...

in the past 3 years...4 people i was close to died...i wish death took away assholes like this from the planet instead of the people we care about...it's ok...if his pipes don't get rid of his existence...maybe you'll luck out n his psycho gf goes even crazier n kills him then shoots herself (we can only hope :verygood: )

I've met some of my gf's friends from high school recently, and they were friends with him too. They all hate him now. Her friend's husband said that if that idiot shows up at his doorstep with the bitch wife behind him, it'd take a team of clydesdales to hold him back from getting to her. For a guy to say that, you know she's a complete bitch and deserves to be hit like a man.
 
I think its so nice that you care for B, even if she is not your kid...thats rare. And, yeh, Stilleto is right, she needs to know that you really care about her (I'm sure she does now). That dad of hers needs to straighten up his attitude and learn how to be around kids - maybe learn from you?
 
foreigngirl said:
I think its so nice that you care for B, even if she is not your kid...thats rare. And, yeh, Stilleto is right, she needs to know that you really care about her (I'm sure she does now). That dad of hers needs to straighten up his attitude and learn how to be around kids - maybe learn from you?

My dad legally adopted me when I was 2 years old, right after he married my mother. I didn't know until I was almost 25, but he ALWAYS treated me like his own son. I never knew a difference, and they had 3 kids together. I've used that as an example of how to be with B.

Him learn to straighten up his attitude around me? No, it wouldn't happen. There's bad blood between us and if I ever got face to face with him again, it'd end when I got pulled off of him. It would not go very well for him physically.
 
crak600 said:
My dad legally adopted me when I was 2 years old, right after he married my mother. I didn't know until I was almost 25, but he ALWAYS treated me like his own son. I never knew a difference, and they had 3 kids together. I've used that as an example of how to be with B.

Him learn to straighten up his attitude around me? No, it wouldn't happen. There's bad blood between us and if I ever got face to face with him again, it'd end when I got pulled off of him. It would not go very well for him physically.


yeah, I know the frustration...but just dont do anything stuped with him that is gonna put you behind bars, so B will loose you too
 
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