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Some bullshit myths imho

galaxy

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1. Test takes 4 weeks to kick in- I can feel test enanthate working in days. Im not saying Im blowing up, all kinds of massive and shit, Im just saying I notice increased erections and better pumps.

2. You need a fancy PCT regimen- Nothing works better than 3 weeks of HCG with nolvadex followed by another 3 weeks of clomid. Clenbuterul can be used also. And you dont need to time all this stuff just perfect. Just start it at the end of your cycle. Being all concerned about which day is a waste of time. This whole PCT craze is just a bunch of people trying to reinvent the wheel and adding in there own fancy crap , and thats all its really worth, crap.

3. Split your dbol dose into 4 times a day- You really think Ronnie Coleman is concerned about this? Just get it in you. Dont matter when, your just splitting hairs.

4. Dbol only cycles are a waste and for pussys- Hey, if you dont want to use needles, I dont blame you. Hell, I said the same thing myself ages ago. Anyway, I made great gains and kept most of them on just dbol. I just lost some water. Of course everyone is different and you may lose more.

5. What gear is good for retaining gains- This one makes me nuts. Listen, you will only maintain what your body is naturally able to maintain. If your genetic allow you to keep 250lbs of musle than thats what you will keep. If your only able to keep 200lbs than that is what you will keep. NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO!.......Sure some steroids cause you to crash harder and this can lead to losing gains, but in the end your only gonna keep what you naturally can and no steroid creates some MAGICAL muscle that is more easily retained. Also, if your still not close too your genetic potential then you will continue to keep most of your gains as long as you keep you lifting, rest, and diet in check

6. Anavar is safe- Ok, thats total bullshit. Anavar put my hdl in the toilet quicker than a sea gulls digestive system. Not to mention destroyed my joints. But if your intent on using anavar use it with some creatine to help the joints.

7. Primobolan is the best steroid- Another total bullshit claim. Its pure garbage and way overpriced. Remember the pricey juice is pricey because there is less androgenic properties, thus less bloat, but with todays anti e's bloat has never been easier to control. A low dose of test with a mild low dose of arimidex is a much better choice for gains and much easier on the wallet. THE ONLY BENEFIT OF PRIMO IS IN A CALORIE RESTRICTED DIET. Thats why it was popular back in the day. Arnold and Franco didnt have aromatase inhibitors and had to watch that shit a little more closely.

8. IGF for musle gains- I still havent seen the photos of members blowing up on this shit so Im still not buying it. Remember we have board members in this community who blew up off bogus Tweak labs gear. The mind and placebo is a very powerful and confusing thing. Just watch what you read and take it with a grain of salt.

9. NPP and Oral Tbol- Ok why? Again, more people trying to reinvent the wheel. Nothing beats Test, deca and dbol for bulking, followed by some winny to help progesterone sides from the deca. And again the gold standard for cutting is fina, prop and winny. If you gonna do a show then add some halo. Again, nothing fancy just basic stuff. I guess boring stuff. But, being we have the internet were always trying to come up with something better. I just think we lose a little site of the basics and what really works. NOT TO MENTION ALOT OF SUPPOSED GURUS WHO DO MORE TYPING THAN WORKING OUT. Just dont complicate this stuff is all Im saying. DIET, HEAVY LIFTING AND RESTING. Throw in some Test, deca and dbol and your good. If you need to replace the deca, do it with EQ.

10. RECEPTOR CLEANING OUT- You dont need to come off to keep making gains. However you will reach a point that you do need to up doses to continue making gains. Again, this comes down to a genetic thing and you body will only be able to get so big on 1000mgs of test no matter what you do. I dont think this myth is perpetuated too much anymore anyway. This is more of a gym myth still.

11. Clomid makes you cum like a porn star- Not this cat, but its not like Ive done scientific research to back the claim. HCG does work for me tho.

12. High post count means knowledge- HAHA....That means nothing. Tells me someone has far too much time on there hands and does more typing than lifting. Really tho, Im just jealous of them that they have that kind of time.

13. Female on chat says she hasnt had sex in 3 months- This is like a typical standard answer. I know generally we multiply by three when a female tells us how many she has slept with. Not sure on this one, but I know its a complete crock of shit. And trust me, if she sent you nudes, there are about 10 other dudes who got em too.

Anyway, just some of my opinions. Agree or disagree, it dont really matter to me. Its just the internet. A place for us all to grandstand and feel were all the life of the party.
 
Hmmmm. Nice post. My post count does not anyway mean I know about roids or know enough to be able to give good solid advice. I prefer to answer on the medical side of things and my experiences.

I did like the post however. I am going to try an all oral cycle on my next one.
 
Nice post.... Too many people take advice from others and think it's gospel. What works for you may not work well for me. Alot of it is how your body reacts personally to that specific compound.

I also feel Test E within the first week. You have lot's of valid points there. I hope EVERYONE takes a good read.
 
BOWTECH said:
Nice post.... Too many people take advice from others and think it's gospel. What works for you may not work well for me. Alot of it is how your body reacts personally to that specific compound.

I also feel testosterone enanthate within the first week. You have lot's of valid points there. I hope EVERYONE takes a good read.

Also your Var point....I had blood work done and it destroyed my "good cholesterol" levels. It's amazing that people will believe everything they are told. ALL AAS will have an effect on your body good or bad.
 
I agree about 99% on this post. Good points. Especially #1, 5, & 10.

Test e or c starts working from day one but you start really realizing it in about 3 weeks or so with your lifts. Just for the simple fact it is impossible to jump 50 pounds on bench on day one of your shot.

Receptor cleaning out is ridiculous. So is needing more gear in every cycle beyond your first because your body doesn't respond as well. It just so happens that when you are 250 pounds, it is possible that 500mg of test per week doesn't work as well as when you were 200 pounds. Also you can make gains as fast even naturally the more advanced you get.

The only thing I would add is that in no way shape or form does boldenone work the same as deka, nor does is produce the same strength or size gains. Guys don't want the bloat and I can understand that. But it just isn't the same and you have to use more mgs at twice the cost mg for mg. Just take the deka and all natural diuretics and stop eating 500g of carbs per day and you shouldn't bloat much at all.
 
i agree about the test. i was getting results from it in 3 weeks the first time i did it. this last time, i bought ugl test, and it took almost 5 weeks to see anything. the first time i had all the energy in the world, this past time, i was tired all the fuckin time. i think results will vary depending on the ugl, and pharm grade always rocks! just my 2
 
You should add to that this:

"bigger guys need to take more test then smaller guys"

Sorry not true. If it was there would not be 200lb guys on this board using a gram of test when IFBB pro's use less.
Also, I maintain 250lbs, pretty lean, and my test levels are 302ng/dl which is around 30mgs of test production a week.
If you can't grow on 250mg's you don't know how to eat!
 
I know GALAXY and this post should be a sticky for NEWBIES.............

Great post bro.......


galaxy said:
1. Test takes 4 weeks to kick in- I can feel test enanthate working in days. Im not saying Im blowing up, all kinds of massive and shit, Im just saying I notice increased erections and better pumps.

2. You need a fancy PCT - post cycle therapy - regimen- Nothing works better than 3 weeks of HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - with nolvadex followed by another 3 weeks of clomid. Clenbuterul can be used also. And you dont need to time all this stuff just perfect. Just start it at the end of your cycle. Being all concerned about which day is a waste of time. This whole PCT craze is just a bunch of people trying to reinvent the wheel and adding in there own fancy crap , and thats all its really worth, crap.

3. Split your Dianabol - methandrostenolone - dose into 4 times a day- You really think Ronnie Coleman is concerned about this? Just get it in you. Dont matter when, your just splitting hairs.

4. Dbol only cycles are a waste and for pussys- Hey, if you dont want to use needles, I dont blame you. Hell, I said the same thing myself ages ago. Anyway, I made great gains and kept most of them on just Dianabol - methandrostenolone - . I just lost some water. Of course everyone is different and you may lose more.

5. What gear is good for retaining gains- This one makes me nuts. Listen, you will only maintain what your body is naturally able to maintain. If your genetic allow you to keep 250lbs of musle than thats what you will keep. If your only able to keep 200lbs than that is what you will keep. NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO!.......Sure some steroids cause you to crash harder and this can lead to losing gains, but in the end your only gonna keep what you naturally can and no steroid creates some MAGICAL muscle that is more easily retained. Also, if your still not close too your genetic potential then you will continue to keep most of your gains as long as you keep you lifting, rest, and diet in check

6. Anavar is safe- Ok, thats total bullshit. Anavar put my hdl in the toilet quicker than a sea gulls digestive system. Not to mention destroyed my joints. But if your intent on using anavar use it with some creatine to help the joints.

7. Primobolan is the best steroid- Another total bullshit claim. Its pure garbage and way overpriced. Remember the pricey juice is pricey because there is less androgenic properties, thus less bloat, but with todays anti e's bloat has never been easier to control. A low dose of test with a mild low dose of arimidex is a much better choice for gains and much easier on the wallet. THE ONLY BENEFIT OF Primobolan - methenolone - IS IN A CALORIE RESTRICTED DIET. Thats why it was popular back in the day. Arnold and Franco didnt have aromatase inhibitors and had to watch that shit a little more closely.

8. IGF for musle gains- I still havent seen the photos of members blowing up on this shit so Im still not buying it. Remember we have board members in this community who blew up off bogus Tweak labs gear. The mind and placebo is a very powerful and confusing thing. Just watch what you read and take it with a grain of salt.

9. NPP - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - and Oral Turanabol- Ok why? Again, more people trying to reinvent the wheel. Nothing beats Test, Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and Dianabol - methandrostenolone - for bulking, followed by some Winstrol - stanozolol to help progesterone sides from the Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - . And again the gold standard for cutting is Finaplix - trenbolone acetate - , testosterone propionate and Winstrol - stanozolol. If you gonna do a show then add some halo. Again, nothing fancy just basic stuff. I guess boring stuff. But, being we have the internet were always trying to come up with something better. I just think we lose a little site of the basics and what really works. NOT TO MENTION ALOT OF SUPPOSED GURUS WHO DO MORE TYPING THAN WORKING OUT. Just dont complicate this stuff is all Im saying. DIET, HEAVY LIFTING AND RESTING. Throw in some Test, Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and Dianabol - methandrostenolone - and your good. If you need to replace the Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - , do it with Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - .

10. RECEPTOR CLEANING OUT- You dont need to come off to keep making gains. However you will reach a point that you do need to up doses to continue making gains. Again, this comes down to a genetic thing and you body will only be able to get so big on 1000mgs of test no matter what you do. I dont think this myth is perpetuated too much anymore anyway. This is more of a gym myth still.

11. Clomid makes you cum like a porn star- Not this cat, but its not like Ive done scientific research to back the claim. HCG does work for me tho.

12. High post count means knowledge- HAHA....That means nothing. Tells me someone has far too much time on there hands and does more typing than lifting. Really tho, Im just jealous of them that they have that kind of time.

13. Female on chat says she hasnt had sex in 3 months- This is like a typical standard answer. I know generally we multiply by three when a female tells us how many she has slept with. Not sure on this one, but I know its a complete crock of shit. And trust me, if she sent you nudes, there are about 10 other dudes who got em too.

Anyway, just some of my opinions. Agree or disagree, it dont really matter to me. Its just the internet. A place for us all to grandstand and feel were all the life of the party.
 
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