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Cry0genix

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Okay, I HAVE used the search tool and was looking for some specific advice, a little new to the board as far as posting but have been researching and using it for quite sometime now...

Here goes..

Start of last winter, I was 22 yrs old 5'11 and about 285-290 lbs... I began a strict diet of high protein, low carb, very low sodium, lots of cardio and weight training...(I was always in great shape through highschool but after a football ending shoulder injury got overweight) ...

SO after getting myself down to about 275 i started a cycle of Deca200 ...at one CC a day every TEN days and took my last two injections of half a cc to phase out..was recommended this dosage by a life long body building friend to see how my body would do...of course not being in great shape at the time, didnt wanna push anything.. after 80 or so days I was sitting at 226lbs...had great gains in strength and size, and of course went from a 42" waist to a 36" and needing a belt ...

Had NO known side effects..blood pressure normal...maybe a little increase in body hair/acne...and I mean MINUTE changes...

Been off completely for about 10-12 weeks and about to start a cycle off TEST400..figured I'd do the same thing, 1cc every ten or so days...last two injections do half a CC just to phase my body out...my goal is to be a solid 200 lbs and have good muscle definition ...and low body fat which is clearly achievable.. I have been maintaining my diet and exercise (for the most part) the entire time ive been off...Of course this will be the second cycle of my life, and probably one of my last, but my intention is to get to a good size, and maintain it as best I can naturally..
What I need the advice/experience on is:
Estrogen blocker, would it be required with those kinds of doses? If not only to prevent gyno, but also to prevent BP problems, those of course would be my two primary concerns.
Would these even be necessary with spaced out smaller doses? ANy and all advice is appreciated, I know cycles are serious business and I wanna do everything I can to not jack my body up. I already take milk thistle, garlique, Q10.

Mood swings? expect them?

Whatcha think? Thanks again bros!
 
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Okay, I HAVE used the search tool and was looking for some specific advice, a little new to the board as far as posting but have been researching and using it for quite sometime now...

Here goes..

Start of last winter, I was 22 yrs old 5'11 and about 285-290 lbs... I began a strict diet of high protein, low carb, very low sodium, lots of cardio and weight training...(I was always in great shape through highschool but after a football ending shoulder injury got overweight) ...

SO after getting myself down to about 275 i started a cycle of Deca200 ...at one CC a day every TEN days and took my last two injections of half a cc to phase out..was recommended this dosage by a life long body building friend to see how my body would do...of course not being in great shape at the time, didnt wanna push anything.. after 80 or so days I was sitting at 226lbs...had great gains in strength and size, and of course went from a 42" waist to a 36" and needing a belt ...

Had NO known side effects..blood pressure normal...maybe a little increase in body hair/acne...and I mean MINUTE changes...

Been off completely for about 10-12 weeks and about to start a cycle off TEST400..figured I'd do the same thing, 1cc every ten or so days...last two injections do half a CC just to phase my body out...my goal is to be a solid 200 lbs and have good muscle definition ...and low body fat which is clearly achievable.. I have been maintaining my diet and exercise (for the most part) the entire time ive been off...Of course this will be the second cycle of my life, and probably one of my last, but my intention is to get to a good size, and maintain it as best I can naturally..
What I need the advice/experience on is:
Estrogen blocker, would it be required with those kinds of doses? If not only to prevent gyno, but also to prevent BP problems, those of course would be my two primary concerns.
Would these even be necessary with spaced out smaller doses? ANy and all advice is appreciated, I know cycles are serious business and I wanna do everything I can to not jack my body up. I already take milk thistle, garlique, Q10.

Mood swings? expect them?

Whatcha think? Thanks again bros!


that one CC every 10 days thing is wierd

Test E is a great first REAL cycle

but you need 2 shots a week to maintain perfect blood values.

do it for 8-9 weeks at 350-450 mgs a week

then have a proper PCT
 
stable test levels. injecting 1x per weak will have your test level fluctuating a little bit. doing 2x per weak will keap your test levels stable.
 
That T400 is likely a testosterone mix and includes prop. Like a high dose sust. Better off breaking your shots up to MWF or something like that...
 
Yeah Ive heard the T400 is not a comfortable pin by any means, not like the deca... I had originally put in an order for Test200 and This is what I got...most non painful spots to pin? In the past Ive always hit my lats, calfs and thighs, with very little discomfort, but it also wasnt test.

Exactly what I have :Test-400


Formula:

Propionate of Testosterone 25mg Enathate of Testosterone188mg Cypionate of Testosterone 187mg Vehicle c.b.p. 1ml.

shots MWF? Once again, not to look like a COMPLETE newb, how much would I need to load for each pin..?
 
Yeah Ive heard the T400 is not a comfortable pin by any means, not like the deca... I had originally put in an order for Test200 and This is what I got...most non painful spots to pin? In the past Ive always hit my lats, calfs and thighs, with very little discomfort, but it also wasnt test.

Exactly what I have :Test-400


Formula:

Propionate of Testosterone 25mg Enathate of Testosterone188mg Cypionate of Testosterone 187mg Vehicle c.b.p. 1ml.

shots MWF? Once again, not to look like a COMPLETE newb, how much would I need to load for each pin..?

Well, it's only 25mg of prop. Kind of a waste IMHO. If it were me I'd run it .5 CC MWF. This will give you about 560MG of long esters EW. Or work in some prop on it's own to even it out.
 
Thanks a ton for all the replies..with little access to a computer with internet (recently bought a house and have no internet) ... im trying to do all the research I can without looking helpless...would it hurt to take an AI during my cycle, regardless of if i show signs of side effects? and PCT is necessarry regardless of taking an AI correct?
 
Yeah Ive heard the T400 is not a comfortable pin by any means, not like the deca... I had originally put in an order for Test200 and This is what I got...most non painful spots to pin? In the past Ive always hit my lats, calfs and thighs, with very little discomfort, but it also wasnt test.

Exactly what I have :Test-400


Formula:

Propionate of Testosterone 25mg Enathate of Testosterone188mg Cypionate of Testosterone 187mg Vehicle c.b.p. 1ml.

shots MWF? Once again, not to look like a COMPLETE newb, how much would I need to load for each pin..?
Does the vial say 400mgs per ml?
Then it's 400mgs of test
 
Thanks a ton for all the replies..with little access to a computer with internet (recently bought a house and have no internet) ... im trying to do all the research I can without looking helpless...would it hurt to take an AI during my cycle, regardless of if i show signs of side effects? and PCT is necessarry regardless of taking an AI correct?

You want to at least have an AI on hand. Arimidex at .25 every other day would be fine. If you start to have problems go to everyday and work from there.
 
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