so you want a massive back?

[satchboogie]

one word for you:

DEADLIFTS!

 

[Zander1983]

You won't get any arguments here.

 

[MnFguy49]

Did 'em this morning, feels sooo good

 

[onerepmaximum]

Did 'em this morning, feels sooo good

If they feel good now, they'll feel great tomorrow.

 

[satchboogie]

was doing em without straps for a long time..

10 times better results and increases in strength/mass since i started using straps.

 

[Exodus]

if you can, ditch the straps and use chalk..........makes a difference in my opinion, but doing them is better than not doing them always.

X

 

[WalkingBeast]

I love DEADLIFTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL VARIATIONS OF DEADLIFTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Debaser]

was doing em without straps for a long time..

10 times better results and increases in strength/mass since i started using straps.

This means you need to increase your grip strength. If you trash the straps then the deadlifts will do more for your forearms as well as your back.

 

[Citruscide]

Gotta love an exercise that has the word "dead" in it.

C-ditty

 

[PolishHammer1977]

was doing em without straps for a long time..10 times better results and increases in strength/mass since i started using straps.

What this says is;

I never worked my grip strength at all so...................

When my back started getting stronger and my grip went nowhere I used straps...............................................

Time to strengthen the grip my man. Hardcore.

 

[kingc_79]

i dont use them at the time bc i dont think i could dl anything i cant hold but if i were u i would keep using them to fully utilize your back but start a grip routine 2x a week w/crushing, holding, and pinching exercises.

 

[NWinters]

i think dong deads once a week is too much for me....I like doing them about every 3 weeks....cleans....GM's....then deads.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

What this says is;

I never worked my grip strength at all so...................

When my back started getting stronger and my grip went nowhere I used straps...............................................

Time to strengthen the grip my man. Hardcore.

I tend to disagree, if he is a bodybuilder. One should not limit the development of other muscles simply because their grip strength cannot keep up. I doubt I'll have the ability to hold 725 ibs without straps, for a set, so does that mean I should not have done 725 half-deadlifts in the rack, even though they did wonders for my back? Use the straps when you need them, and continue to work on yoru grip strength seperately, but don't let it limit the development of the rest of your physique.

 

[satchboogie]

I tend to disagree, if he is a bodybuilder. One should not limit the development of other muscles simply because their grip strength cannot keep up. I doubt I'll have the ability to hold 725 ibs without straps, for a set, so does that mean I should not have done 725 half-deadlifts in the rack, even though they did wonders for my back? Use the straps when you need them, and continue to work on yoru grip strength seperately, but don't let it limit the development of the rest of your physique.

EXACTLY!

 

[Nonerz]

Okay...maybe. Just don't use them for every single set...only the ones you HAVE to! Sorry, pet peeve of mine!

BTW, I am a reformed strap user and have been loyal to my rosin bag since I bagged the straps. I've also done grip work since.

 

[PolishHammer1977]

What this says is;

I never worked my grip strength at all so...................

When my back started getting stronger and my grip went nowhere I used straps...............................................

Time to strengthen the grip my man. Hardcore.

Just suck it up and develop your grip. Don't allow yourself to be limited.

That goes for you too body by finaplex.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Tell that to Ronnie Coleman or Shawn Ray. Both of them are avid strap users and seem to have benefited quite nicely from their use. It boils do to what your goals are. For a bodybuilder, it is probably the best route for many. Obviously powerlifters and strongmen will probably be limited by their grip in competition, so developming other muscle beyond their grip strength would be worthless to them, so the wrist straps would be a hinderance in their goals.

 

[PolishHammer1977]

Tell that to Ronnie Coleman or Shawn Ray. Both of them are avid strap users and seem to have benefited quite nicely from their use. It boils do to what your goals are. For a bodybuilder, it is probably the best route for many. Obviously powerlifters and strongmen will probably be limited by their grip in competition, so developming other muscle beyond their grip strength would be worthless to them, so the wrist straps would be a hinderance in their goals.

Was I talking to or about Ronnie or Shawn?...........................

C'mon man. Take it with a grain of salt and move on man.

 

[Citruscide]

I use straps on the heavier weights... no shame here. If you think that using straps is cheating... then by all means, you are entitled to your beliefs. Bottom line, worry about how you train and that's it. If you are having nice growth and strength gains... damn what everyone else is telling you "should" be the way to do it.

People have been telling me for YEARS I shouldn't be lifting weights heavy with my shoulder... blah blah blah... I spit on them... and spit on anyone who tells me I'm cheating or hurting myself by using straps on weights I can't grasp. It's my world baby!!!

C-ditty

 

[punch]

I am going to have to agree w/ Citrus. Although I do most of my workouts w/ no straps, doing shrugs w/ 415 is gonna be tough. For my heaviest movements I use straps and love em. I also work my forearms twice a week. My forearms are also rather freaky. Peace

 

[PolishHammer1977]

I respect the decision to train however you guys want to.

Wouldn't you want a stronger grip though?

 

[Citruscide]

I respect the decision to train however you guys want to.

Wouldn't you want a stronger grip though?

Sure, why not? But I'm not going to sacrifice a stonger back or traps or whatever the exercise may be, to have a stronger grip. My grip is already weakened due to an injury from doing hang cleans... oh so many months ago. lol -- I do other exercises specifically for that... usaually to hit my forearms.

C-ditty

 

[PolishHammer1977]

Sure, why not? But I'm not going to sacrifice a stonger back or traps or whatever the exercise may be, to have a stronger grip. My grip is already weakened due to an injury from doing hang cleans... oh so many months ago. lol -- I do other exercises specifically for that... usaually to hit my forearms.

I can understand your point foview Citrus. Absolutely.

Do the other board members using straps have your impairment?

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Sure, why not? But I'm not going to sacrifice a stonger back or traps or whatever the exercise may be, to have a stronger grip. My grip is already weakened due to an injury from doing hang cleans... oh so many months ago. lol -- I do other exercises specifically for that... usaually to hit my forearms.

C-ditty

My point exactally. I do forearm and grip work, but will not accept slower gains in my back just to have a stronger grip.

 

[JOKER47]

I can understand your point foview Citrus. Absolutely.

Do the other board members using straps have your impairment?

I know if only 2 members of EF that have an injury that REQUIRES the use of straps. C-Ditty is one.......


Joker

 

[Debaser]

Partial deadlifts are different BBF. The point of those is to use far more weight than in the conventional range of motion, therefore your grip will likely not be developed enough. You should absolutely make sure your grip stays up to par with full range deadlifts, and rows/chins.

I use straps on partial deadlifts as well, but that's the only exercise.

 

[Exodus]

well i dont see a problem using straps, if your gym doesnt allow chalk. it works just as good. i can handle more weight with straps than chalk, but its not with good form, which means im not ready for that weight. just my opinion. if your not a powerlifter, strongman, olympic lifter, then there is no beef with using straps from me.

but if you were a bodybuilder for 5 years and then switch to being a strength athlete and have to play catch up with your grip, it really really sucks.

X

 

[JOKER47]

Partial deadlifts are different BBF. The point of those is to use far more weight than in the conventional range of motion, therefore your grip will likely not be developed enough.

Disagree.

You should absolutely make sure your grip stays up to par with full range deadlifts, and rows/chins.

Agree.

But then, I'm sure you already knew that, huh?


Joker

 

[Deleted member 33117]

I only use them for deadlifting movements. I can easily grip the weights I do for various rows, pulldowns, shrugs, etc. I don't like the over under grip for stiff legged deads, so use them on that as well, so I can do an overhand grip, and focus on my hamstrings without thinking about gripping the weight.

 

[Nonerz]

well i dont see a problem using straps, if your gym doesnt allow chalk.

Rosin bag. Hey, it's a technicality...

 

[guldukat]

My point exactally. I do forearm and grip work, but will not accept slower gains in my back just to have a stronger grip.

And why should you? You're a bodybuilder. No judge will ask you to squeeze cans of Coke onstage, but they'll sure as spit be looking at your hamstrings, traps and lower back development, a direct result of the weights w/ which you train.

It's just a matter of priorities guys. Ideally, we'd have no need of straps, but impairments or not, what difference does it make if a bodybuilder uses straps? It's a little less macho, but growth is the highest priority, not machismo or a bone-crushing grip.

I also don't understand the dichotomy: either you use straps and have a weak grip, or you don't and have a strong grip! They're not mutually exclusive; just train grip separately or use straps only when necessary, like C-ditty said.

 

[PolishHammer1977]

Rosin bag. Hey, it's a technicality...

From the diamond to the iron.

I like it. BRAVO!

 

[satchboogie]

I use straps on the heavier weights... no shame here. If you think that using straps is cheating... then by all means, you are entitled to your beliefs. Bottom line, worry about how you train and that's it. If you are having nice growth and strength gains... damn what everyone else is telling you "should" be the way to do it.

People have been telling me for YEARS I shouldn't be lifting weights heavy with my shoulder... blah blah blah... I spit on them... and spit on anyone who tells me I'm cheating or hurting myself by using straps on weights I can't grasp. It's my world baby!!!

C-ditty

tell em how it is bro.. tell em

 

[JOKER47]

Soooo......

Since grip strength, or just strength for that matter, is not the priority for bodybuilders, why do you still post lift PR's? I would think it would make more sense to post a 1/4" gain in arm circumference, BF% reduction, posing technique, etc....

Just as a strength athlete would post essentially the opposite.


If you don't care about strength, why do you brag about it?


Joker

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Soooo......

Since grip strength, or just strength for that matter, is not the priority for bodybuilders, why do you still post lift PR's? I would think it would make more sense to post a 1/4" gain in arm circumference, BF% reduction, posing technique, etc....

Just as a strength athlete would post essentially the opposite.


If you don't care about strength, why do you brag about it?


Joker

Beacuse handling heavier weights can lead to gains in size and density. Having a strong grip, at the expenise of back, and hamstring development would be counterproductive for a bodybuilder though. If I can handle heavier weights with the straps, and further tax those muscles, then why not?

 

[PolishHammer1977]

How long have you been bodybuilding BBF?

honestly

 

[Deleted member 33117]

PH, I already told everyone a million times. LoL I started workout out in January of 2000. I didn't get really serious for about 5 or 6 months.

 

[JOKER47]

Beacuse handling heavier weights can lead to gains in size and density. Having a strong grip, at the expenise of back, and hamstring development would be counterproductive for a bodybuilder though. If I can handle heavier weights with the straps, and further tax those muscles, then why not?

I know that.
But why do you post about it? Why would other BB's care? Wouldn't they be more interested in how your body itself is developing? How are you increasing the size your arms? Rep ranges for lifts, not weight?

It doesn't make sense. BB's seem to be the first to brag about the weight they use, until someone from a different sport outlifts you, then suddenly you become a "true BB", and "don't care about strength, just development"...blah, blah, blah...

I can respect any sport anyone is into, but make up your mind. I have run into maybe 2-3 TRUE BB's here on EF, where the weight DOESN'T matter, the LOOK does. And I respect that.

Joker

 

[PolishHammer1977]

PH, I already told everyone a million times. LoL I started workout out in January of 2000. I didn't get really serious for about 5 or 6 months.

I amnot everyone and I never asked you.

Thank you.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Ok JOKER, I see what you are saying, and I agree to a certain extent. Too many guys on here who bodybuild, but are not into powerlifting talk about setting PR's as though it was a priority. Honestly I do keep with it, because I see increases in numbers over a peroid of time, as a sign of growth, since sometimes it is very difficult to say if one has gained large amounts of muscle in an area because one could be gaining water and fat as well while trying to put on size. I think we should monitor or progress in that regard, but to worry about strength simply for the sake of strength doesn't make sence to a true bodybuilder, as you have stated.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

I amnot everyone and I never asked you.

Thank you.

Fair enough, you never did ask, and now that I think about it, I haven't posted it anytime in the last couple of months, on any forum.

 

[bignate73]

i see ditching straps as a very temporary set back. very temporary. why work my grip seperately when i can humble myself for a month or 2 (not long in the grand scheme of things) and let my grip catch up. now, my grip doesnt slip.

just my $.02.

bodybuilding isnt a valid excuse to create muscle imbalances.

 

[satchboogie]

what bodybuilder really cares about grip strength???

the bottome line is muscle growth!
with or without straps.. in this case, much easier WITH straps..
AND THATS THE BOTTOM LINE!

 

[Exodus]

i see ditching straps as a very temporary set back. very temporary. why work my grip seperately when i can humble myself for a month or 2 (not long in the grand scheme of things) and let my grip catch up. now, my grip doesnt slip.

just my $.02.

bodybuilding isnt a valid excuse to create muscle imbalances.

very very true.

i thought, i cant give up my straps, i will never catch my grip up.

when i started strength training in april i went up to bfolds and could barly hold 200lbs on the herc hold for 28 seconds. then i started training grip, for my first contest it gave out on the farmers. but by my second contest which was 3 months after i went to bfolds the first time. i held the 250lb herc hold for 35 seconds, and grip never failed on any of the exercises.

just this weekend i rack deadlifted 455 for 3 reps with nothing but chalk. and my back was failing worse than my grip. its just nice to know that now with chalk, my grip strength is equal to my back/ham/glute strength

X

 

[Exodus]

what bodybuilder really cares about grip strength???

the bottome line is muscle growth!
with or without straps.. in this case, much easier WITH straps..
AND THATS THE BOTTOM LINE!

arnold and franco didnt have to use straps..........

wonder why??? they powerlifted before and durning their bodybuilding career.

X

 

[bignate73]

much easier

that about sums it up.

 

[Debaser]

Though I respect your decision and always appreciate your thoughts on training BBF, I have something else you might want to consider. If you want to ultimately move more weight, then I believe developing your grip is the answer. John Christy put it well:

"I teach my students that intensity starts with the grip. If you're serious about physically moving something, you're really going to have to get a hold of it. That's why you do (or should do) grip work."

Also, I believe forearm development will be bettered as well (though I am unsure as to what degree).

 

[satchboogie]

whats the point of deadlifting if your forearms will give out before the back/hammies?????

use straps!

 

[crew9]

I know that.
But why do you post about it? Why would other BB's care? Wouldn't they be more interested in how your body itself is developing? How are you increasing the size your arms? Rep ranges for lifts, not weight?

It doesn't make sense. BB's seem to be the first to brag about the weight they use, until someone from a different sport outlifts you, then suddenly you become a "true BB", and "don't care about strength, just development"...blah, blah, blah...

I can respect any sport anyone is into, but make up your mind. I have run into maybe 2-3 TRUE BB's here on EF, where the weight DOESN'T matter, the LOOK does. And I respect that.

Joker

I understand your point but your comment is doing nothing but trying to stir up an arguement. I'll make a comment I may or may not agree with just to stir things up. I know a lot of people commenting here are strongman but how about you powerlifters. Please think about dissing straps the next time your squeezing your ass into your bench shirt or squat suit. I mean afterall straps help you lift weights your normally couldn't and so do powerlifting suits.

On a side note gotta love chalk/rosin bags.

 

[bignate73]

the point is....eventually they wont.

 

[guldukat]

This thread seems a bit heated. Are straps the training equivalent of a Republicans vs. Democrats discussion?

Have I missed something?

I obviously think if you can get to the point at which you do not need straps, that's ideal. I do not, however, think I'd simply forego them for X period at the expense of my lats, lower back etc. Nate makes a good point in noting that it's a short-term problem, but what happens when you've tried to address that problem for some time now?

I've tried just that. I started working grip specifically and pretty hard about three months ago (? maybe four). I'm at the point where I can hang from a towel-wrapped bar for the same amount of time as when I started...plus 50 more lbs. Gotta love dip belts, eh?

The trouble is, I have very small hands. Nonerz's hands are probably as big as mine if not bigger! As such, grip training has helped but gripping stuff is still a limiting factor for me. My SLDL has improved a little, but I'm still struggling to hang on to it.

It's the only exercise on which I've typically employed straps, and after not using them for a very long time I'm going back to them. I'm confident I'll nail that 275x20 w/ straps, something that's eluded me because my little hands can't hold on at the end. And soon after that, I want 315x20.

My grip/forearms might suffer some small, almost indiscernable degree as a result, but moving the stiff-legs up by 40 lbs. for the same reps will no doubt translate to a tangible increase in the hamstrings and lower back.

It's not as if I haven't tried, or that I'll foresake grip training. But I'm done with my dinky hamstrings. Fuck being small *wraps wrists*

 

[bigdollarallo]

not to be a dumbass but i am a newbie to deads(and god i fucking love doing them) but whats the deal with chalk, i dont understand the whole chalk thing, whats it for?
what am i missing.

 

[JOKER47]

I understand your point but your comment is doing nothing but trying to stir up an arguement. I'll make a comment I may or may not agree with just to stir things up. I know a lot of people commenting here are strongman but how about you powerlifters. Please think about dissing straps the next time your squeezing your ass into your bench shirt or squat suit. I mean afterall straps help you lift weights your normally couldn't and so do powerlifting suits.

On a side note gotta love chalk/rosin bags.

I tried to keep my comment objective and mentioning both sides, in an effort NOT to start the impending BB vs Powerlifter battle, which is stupid, and never gets anywhere.

That being stated:

The difference I see in your bench shirt/suit reference, is simply that the shirts/suit are legal, straps are not. Chalk also helps me lifts heavier weights, is legal in PL and Strongman. Neither BB's or PL/Strongmen disagree with chalk.

Like it's been stated before, it depends on your goals. If your goals are a pefect body, state your PR's accordingly. Inevitably, once you state a deadlift of XXXlbs, you will be asked by strength athletes if it was "raw". Be prepared.

PL's brag about the weights they move, BB's brag about arm/leg/chest size and low BF%. Neither is right or wrong, just different.


Joker

 

[PolishHammer1977]

whats the point of deadlifting if your forearms will give out before the back/hammies?????

use straps!

You're lets make it easy on myself attitude will get you only so far. Sooner or later you will have to accept the fact that your forearms and grip are WEAK.

Better sooner than later my gripless man.

 

[from zero]

Straps are a crutch. It's that simple.

 

[satchboogie]

You're lets make it easy on myself attitude will get you only so far. Sooner or later you will have to accept the fact that your forearms and grip are WEAK.

Better sooner than later my gripless man.

if it makes you feel better my bloated buddy i'll admit it now.

once again.. who the fuck cares about a strong grip????

 

[JOKER47]

if it makes you feel better my bloated buddy i'll admit it now.

once again.. who the fuck cares about a strong grip????

I do. And other Powerlifters and Strongmen.

Different goals for different sports. Don't brag about the weight if it doesn't matter, don't brag about BF% if it doesn't matter. That's all I'm sayin'.....

Here's hopin' that this stays objective.........


Joker

 

[PolishHammer1977]

if it makes you feel better my bloated buddy i'll admit it now.

once again.. who the fuck cares about a strong grip????

check my pics to see if I'm bloated young man.



you have a lot to learn young man.

 

[JOKER47]

BTW and OT:

Satch, check my location...I think you'll like it.....




Joker

 

[satchboogie]

BTW and OT:

Satch, check my location...I think you'll like it.....




Joker

love that cd/song!

 

[satchboogie]

check my pics to see if I'm bloated young man.



you have a lot to learn young man.

s'all good bro. no beef here.
just dont like to be called 'gripless'. lol.

btw.. pics look good.

different programs and different philsophies.. neither is right or wrong.

 

[PolishHammer1977]

agreed

I appreciate the sentiment man

 

[Mike_Rojas]

Doesn't grip work increase the size of your forearms? That would be a bodybuilding purpose. Get those Popeye forearms going. Yuck yuck yuck yuck

 

[crew9]

Doesn't grip work increase the size of your forearms? That would be a bodybuilding purpose. Get those Popeye forearms going. Yuck yuck yuck yuck

Ronnie Coleman has huge forearms and he can't close the number 2 COC, so a post on this board says. Strength does not always equate to size.

 

[crew9]

I tried to keep my comment objective and mentioning both sides, in an effort NOT to start the impending BB vs Powerlifter battle, which is stupid, and never gets anywhere.

That being stated:

The difference I see in your bench shirt/suit reference, is simply that the shirts/suit are legal, straps are not. Chalk also helps me lifts heavier weights, is legal in PL and Strongman. Neither BB's or PL/Strongmen disagree with chalk.

Like it's been stated before, it depends on your goals. If your goals are a pefect body, state your PR's accordingly. Inevitably, once you state a deadlift of XXXlbs, you will be asked by strength athletes if it was "raw". Be prepared.

PL's brag about the weights they move, BB's brag about arm/leg/chest size and low BF%. Neither is right or wrong, just different.


Joker

No matter the reason you lift for it's always a good feeling to get that 315 bench, that 405 squat, or that 500 deadlift. Keep in mind most people who lift classify themselves as a bodybuilder even though they don't compete. Not to mention that majority of this board are just average people so why not let them feel better about themselves by sharing their accomplishment regardless of what they call themselves. Ya know?

 

[Debaser]

Ronnie Coleman has huge forearms and he can't close the number 2 COC, so a post on this board says. Strength does not always equate to size.

That's crushing strength. You're only moving your fingers to squeeze. You're not pulling anything. Increasing that will generally make your hands bigger and not your forearms. Like I said anyway, I don't know the degree that having a stronger grip will affect your forearms, but it could affect your overall strength/size (i.e. having a stronger grip will make many of your lifts stronger overall)

Ronnie Coleman isn't a good example for anything. He's a genetic superfreak with lots of gear. But in terms of strength equating to size, you should know that he does deadlift over 800 lbs for reps, and front squats I believe over 600.

 

[Exodus]

That's crushing strength. You're only moving your fingers to squeeze. You're not pulling anything. Increasing that will generally make your hands bigger and not your forearms. Like I said anyway, I don't know the degree that having a stronger grip will affect your forearms, but it could affect your overall strength/size (i.e. having a stronger grip will make many of your lifts stronger overall)

Ronnie Coleman isn't a good example for anything. He's a genetic superfreak with lots of gear. But in terms of strength equating to size, you should know that he does deadlift over 800 lbs for reps, and front squats I believe over 600.

yes you are correct in the crushing strength vs gripping strength.

however, ronnie uses straps for his deadlifts.

a probodybuilder named johnny o jackson has deadlifted 800lb in a meet within the last 18 months with no straps.

X

 

[revexrevex]

I totally agree with crew9. Straps are very beneficial during certain times. To throw them away would be getting rid of a valuable training aid

 

[sinjinsmythe33]

a massive back? deadlifts off plates or box, out of a rack and with snatch grip. cleans, rows and pull ups. alot of food too.

 

[louden_swain]

I think deadlifts are excellent for adding mass.

We cannot forget about barbell rows, t-bar rows, or chins. . also important exercises.

BTW, there is nothing wrong with using straps. I would rather my back fail than my grip.

 

[JOKER47]

No matter the reason you lift for it's always a good feeling to get that 315 bench, that 405 squat, or that 500 deadlift. Keep in mind most people who lift classify themselves as a bodybuilder even though they don't compete. Not to mention that majority of this board are just average people so why not let them feel better about themselves by sharing their accomplishment regardless of what they call themselves. Ya know?

I see your point.

For me however, I don't feel as though I actually "own" the weight I just pulled (talking deadlifts) if I don't do it raw.
That doesn't mean that I won't use straps or a belt when it's allowed in competition. But that's the only time I use them.


Joker

 

[collegiateLifter]

alot of really big guys use straps.... Ronnie among others listed.... and DC comes to mind aswell.

 

[Lord_Suston]

I really only use straps on high rep stuff that I can own easily for a FEW REPS. but the bar does get slick and I would rather use straps to get the last few reps and let my back take the brunt of the assault. On the other hand if I can't lift it for at least four reps without straps then I won't use the straps cause it would be useles for me to lift it cause my back will overpower my grip. so when I SLDL lets say 200lbs for argument I will go for 2 sets of 10reps and maybe use straps just to make sure i can get the last 2-3 reps, but if I can't get four reps initially then I am noty even gonna bother lifting it even with staps...

BB should work on grip, but in reality it should not be as much as p'lifter or Strongmen/women, but more for symmetry

 

[DeepZenPill]

I don't know why there's such a heated argument over straps...

I do deadlifts to make my back grow. Not for my grip. At the same time, I don't want a weak grip either. I don't use straps until I'm working with a weight where my grip fails before my back does.

I am doing DC training, so strenght is a very important part of my bodybuilding philosophy. Once I pushed myself to lift as heavy as possible my gains amazed me. Size is #1 priority, but I need to be strong to get there. And damn it feels good when you're strong.

 

[benevolent anarchist]

No straps here—or gloves for that matter. I believe in teaching my body to take action (lift the weight) without the assistance of straps or gloves. That way if I do have to put my strength to practical use outside of the gym, I don’t have to say, “Wait, hold on, stop. Let me get my straps”.

This is just my opinion and I don’t expect you all to agree.

 

[PRO_BODYBUILDER]

i prefer many many sets up various types of chinups. i always wear hooks. also various forms of dumbell rows with 2 arms at a time with tons of squeezing and thinking about the muscles work for me

 

[bignate73]

No straps here—or gloves for that matter. I believe in teaching my body to take action (lift the weight) without the assistance of straps or gloves. That way if I do have to put my strength to practical use outside of the gym, I don’t have to say, “Wait, hold on, stop. Let me get my straps”.

This is just my opinion and I don’t expect you all to agree.

you can expect me to agree!

 

[PRO_BODYBUILDER]

for me deadlifts only work my quads hamstrings and some of my erector muscles but nothing for the upper back. i always go nice and low bending my knees almost into like a full squat, ive always felt deads are about the best leg exercise and not a back exercise. ive noticed many people do not squat low enough when deadlifting. i love deads mainly because of the rush of it