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Slyth

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Seriusly why?

Am 19 years old and i work out pretty much everyday(been doing it for like 2 years) for 1 and a half to 2 hours and i love doing it. My weight is fine as am very healthy and strong but i still wanted to put on some more and reach the 95 kilos or something (am 1.93 mts tall).
I took some protein shakes a while ago and i got to tell you i gave it a good thought and read about it before buying this stuff because lets face it, that crap ain't natural neither is it cheap (i live in venezuela).

The truth is no matter how much you lift or eat well you won't really put on weight without some extra help. I am currently taking cell-tech after reading extensefully about creatine, the side efects etc and even went to a conference about this sort of stuff a few weeks ago. i came to the conclusion creatine taken the right way ( no loading phase, and 5 grams a day with extensive workout to avoid any side efects to the liver and kidneys AND with a previos Dr appointment) was not gonna give me any trouble in the future.

than today am talking to a friend in the gym (hes 19 too but looks a lot better than me, sort of like i would like to look) and i coment about the cell tech and ask him if he ever took it, his answer, to my surprise, was that he's been using winstrol for like 2 weeks and that it was a very soft steroid with nearly no side effects....ya right!. Even if this was true the next step would be to take slightly stronger shot and so on till you look like a freak.

That inmidiatly made me think that there is something very wrong with someone that looks like him and still wants to bulk up even more. Its like girls throwing up after every meal to reach a body standar that ppl really don't like, who the hell wants to date an unhealthy skiny ass b*tch? Lately it seems like a lot of guys are going through the same thing, you are causing severe damage in your body for extra muscle.

I don't know how many of you are dedicated bodybuilders and am sorry if i offend you but i just find it grose...my opinion is that if your not a pro bodybuilder why the heck do you take steroids for? do the real stuff you lazy MF. As a person that spends 2 hours or more everyday in gym (currently because i want to make the most of cell-tech for this month) you can understand why it would make me mad to bump into ppl that just take the easy way. Where is the sport in that? and thats just the tip of the iceberg. I hope you guys aren't looking to score with those huge overly defined muscles....women don't like that you know? dont belive me? ask around. Now the real problem is all those health issues you are causing in you'r body wich i won't even talk about because the internet is full of that info unlike this site

This is a fitness (HEALTH) related site and i belive i just read a thread from the very director saying something like the ppl here just want to be above the avarage american by being 'healthier' just how exactly is taking steroids healthy? and if this is a serius site why does it suport illegal drugs? granted it does offer a lot of other info wich i can benefit greatly from, but how about a forum section that says just how incredibly dangerous steroids are? i was just reading another forum where some girl asked about the side effects of winstrol wich she had been taking for like 3 weeks...

I don't really care if bodybuilders can use the stuff legally it just seems uterly fake to me that someone can take a truckload of that crap and call himself a bodybuilder and actually be damn proud of it. whats wrongs with a healthy strong steroid-free and yet muscled body?
The worst part is that anyone can be on steroids without it being noticeable. am scared to even asked some ppl in my Universisty because if i found out they are doing the stuff am not likely to ever hang out with them.

but whats really even worse is that once i bulk up a litle anyone can say behind my back 'he probably just used steroids'.

so i ask again, why the heck would anyone do steroids?

so after all this i ask again, why do you ppl suport the use of steroids as if you were talking about granola bars??
 
not flameing ya.. but before u start mouthing off stuff on ur very first post- u'd want to know more abt things. for instance abt steroids, abt how to work out correctly, not stupidly and imagine ur putting in hard work that will be beneficial... then call us lazy MFs. in fact if u don't like it round here- no one asked u to come here with ur "steroids are bad, muscles are gross" propaganda. comprande amigo?
 
Slyth said:
Seriusly why?

Am 19 years old and i work out pretty much everyday(been doing it for like 2 years) for 1 and a half to 2 hours and i love doing it. My weight is fine as am very healthy and strong but i still wanted to put on some more and reach the 95 kilos or something (am 1.93 mts tall).
I took some protein shakes a while ago and i got to tell you i gave it a good thought and read about it before buying this stuff because lets face it, that crap ain't natural neither is it cheap (i live in venezuela).

The truth is no matter how much you lift or eat well you won't really put on weight without some extra help. I am currently taking cell-tech after reading extensefully about creatine, the side efects etc and even went to a conference about this sort of stuff a few weeks ago. i came to the conclusion creatine taken the right way ( no loading phase, and 5 grams a day with extensive workout to avoid any side efects to the liver and kidneys AND with a previos Dr appointment) was not gonna give me any trouble in the future.

than today am talking to a friend in the gym (hes 19 too but looks a lot better than me, sort of like i would like to look) and i coment about the cell tech and ask him if he ever took it, his answer, to my surprise, was that he's been using winstrol for like 2 weeks and that it was a very soft steroid with nearly no side effects....ya right!. Even if this was true the next step would be to take slightly stronger shot and so on till you look like a freak.

That inmidiatly made me think that there is something very wrong with someone that looks like him and still wants to bulk up even more. Its like girls throwing up after every meal to reach a body standar that ppl really don't like, who the hell wants to date an unhealthy skiny ass b*tch? Lately it seems like a lot of guys are going through the same thing, you are causing severe damage in your body for extra muscle.

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so i ask again, why the heck would anyone do steroids?

so after all this i ask again, why do you ppl suport the use of steroids as if you were talking about granola bars??



A: You posted a 6 paragraph+ post out of which your jealousy of the "better looking guy on steroids" painfully shines through. You became jealous, and your uncontrollable urge to lash out due to your discontent was the impetus for this post.

B: Even more amusing, no one gives an all natural shit about your opinions.

C: Please explain the moral difference between you using creatine, and steroid use. (Note that creatine is an illegal performance enhancement substance in some countries, while steroids are legal medical treatments in those same parts of the world).


Consider yourself owned retroactively.
 
What the hell?? Causing severe extreme damage to your body?

Bwahahahahahaha!!! :spit:

Seriously, I think the few times I've cycled have been the healthiest moments of my life, simply because knowing I'm on pushes me to eat right and work out hard (not to mention rest adequately) because I know that I'm going to gain.

Personally I agree with you to a certain extent, but only slightly.
 
vanity, my favorite sin although it's mostly temporary, then again i'm on this planet like everybody else temporarily. so it doesn't mean that i shouldn't live my life out to the fullest almost anyway i can.
 
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What a stupid fuck. LOL, I can't stop reading his post.
 
I'm amazed anyone could agree with this guy.

Let's break down his post:


1. Frustrated with lack of progress, decides he needs additional enhancement:

"The truth is no matter how much you lift or eat well you won't really put on weight without some extra help"


2. Decides on CellTech "I am currently taking cell-tech"



3. Sees guy in the gym, looks a lot better than he does.

"today am talking to a friend in the gym (hes 19 too but looks a lot better than me, sort of like i would like to look)"



4. After stating that one "cant put on weight without extra help" - chastises people who use extra help


"uterly fake to me that someone can take a truckload of that crap and call himself a bodybuilder "





"The truth is no matter how much you lift or eat well you won't really put on weight without some extra help"

"I am currently taking cell-tech"

"uterly fake to me that someone can take a truckload of crap and call himself a bodybuilder "



"The truth is no matter how much you lift or eat well you won't really put on weight without some extra help"

"I am currently taking cell-tech"

"uterly fake to me that someone can take a truckload of crap and call himself a bodybuilder "



"The truth is no matter how much you lift or eat well you won't really put on weight without some extra help"

"I am currently taking cell-tech"

"uterly fake to me that someone can take a truckload of crap and call himself a bodybuilder "



"The truth is no matter how much you lift or eat well you won't really put on weight without some extra help"

"I am currently taking cell-tech"

"uterly fake to me that someone can take a truckload of crap and call himself a bodybuilder "



"The truth is no matter how much you lift or eat well you won't really put on weight without some extra help"

"I am currently taking cell-tech"

"uterly fake to me that someone can take a truckload of crap and call himself a bodybuilder "
 
hey man aas is the best shit, natural shit doesnt work is only bs so people can claim they used that, remember YOU CAN NEVER GET TOO BIG EVER, and the bigger the better.
 
this reminds me of a time when some dickhead posted some vague study over at BB.com which "proved" that steroids do not make u grow!!!
actually this even more frickin hilarious.
 
comprende amigo? lol don't you think thats a bit old not to mention stupid?

hey like i said am very happy with my body and i have no intension to look like a 'walking erection' (got that from an american magazine, funny uh?)

trust me am not jealous...if i was i would just go out and get me that shit, i have the money. the truth is i dont belive in taking shots to gain muscle specially when we are talking about a drug that hasn't been fully tested wich means all those hormonal changes, and the roid rage shit etc... are just the stuff you see now, how about in long terms?

Creatine on the other is simply extra energy stored in the mucles that allows you to push yourself further those adding more muscle. yes it tends to retain some water in the muscle but that effect fades away.
creatine won't put on muscles for me, i actually have to work my butt even harder to see the results and since the creatine exists in all kinds of foods its not consider illegal.heck it might be illegal in some countrys why dont you name a few? for all i know it won't cause long term side effects and it won't build muscles magicly.

On the other hand steroids are THAT 'legal medical treatments in those same parts of the world'
the fact that they are used medicly does not mean it can be used to build muscle so please don't give me that crap.

I made this thread because i was looking for steroids info and i bump into a site that claims they are healthy, well you are not. you can fool yourself all you want but you are taking loads of shots to acomplish a phisique that is rather unatainable without the use of this drug. and the worst part is that ppl don't realize there is more to that in life. When i think about sports i think about good health.

Again my goal never was and will never be to look like a bodybuilder, i do exersise because it makes me feel good about myself but even home page of this site talks about how to get women fast...neither was to insult any of you, am simply worried about this.

You can think am jealous or watever but am trying to do is show you guys that you are acting on a very superficial level. 'Build muscles fast and get laid' theres more to life than that you know?

Frackal:

this guy looked just fine before he started to take winstrol wich is why it bother me.
 
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trust me am not jealous...if i was i would just go out and get me that shit, i have the money. the truth is i dont belive in taking shots to gain muscle specially when we are talking about a drug that hasn't been fully tested wich means all those hormonal changes, and the roid rage shit etc... are just the stuff you see now, how about in long terms?

It's been repeatedly tested by many people, and if used correctly there should be no side effects.

On the other hand steroids are THAT 'legal medical treatments in those same parts of the world'
the fact that they are used medicly does not mean it can be used to build muscle so please don't give me that crap.

I don't get this, so you're saying that those who put on 20lbs of muscle after a cycle did so simply because they believed it would happen?

On the other hand steroids are THAT 'legal medical treatments in those same parts of the world'
the fact that they are used medicly does not mean it can be used to build muscle so please don't give me that crap.

You're stereotyping everyone on this board because of a frikkin' ad? Man, honestly I am the furthest from that Stereotype, I'm sure many others are also the same way.
 
So you flamed my ass with moronic comments and am still waiting for a real answer, not that 'you can never get too big BS'
 
Slyth said:
comprende amigo? lol don't you think thats a bit old not to mention stupid?

hey like i said am very happy with my body and i have no intension to look like a 'walking erection' (got that from an american magazine, funny uh?)

trust me am not jealous...if i was i would just go out and get me that shit, i have the money. the truth is i dont belive in taking shots to gain muscle specially when we are talking about a drug that hasn't been fully tested wich means all those hormonal changes, and the roid rage shit etc... are just the stuff you see now, how about in long terms?

Creatine on the other is simply extra energy stored in the mucles that allows you to push yourself further those adding more muscle. yes it tends to retain some water in the muscle but that effect fades away.
creatine won't put on muscles for me, i actually have to work my butt even harder to see the results and since the creatine exists in all kinds of foods its not consider illegal.heck it might be illegal in some countrys why dont you name a few? for all i know it won't cause long term side effects and it won't build muscles magicly.

On the other hand steroids are THAT 'legal medical treatments in those same parts of the world'
the fact that they are used medicly does not mean it can be used to build muscle so please don't give me that crap.

I made this thread because i was looking for steroids info and i bump into a site that claims they are healthy, well you are not. you can fool yourself all you want but you are taking loads of shots to acomplish a phisique that is rather unatainable without the use of this drug. and the worst part is that ppl don't realize there is more to that in life. When i think about sports i think about good health.

Again my goal never was and will never be to look like a bodybuilder, i do exersise because it makes me feel good about myself but even home page of this site talks about how to get women fast...neither was to insult any of you, am simply worried about this.

You can think am jealous or watever but am trying to do is show you guys that you are acting on a very superficial level. 'Build muscles fast and get laid' theres more to life than that you know?

Frackal:

this guy looked just fine before he started to take winstrol wich is why it bother me.

i've seen the light! hallelujah!

from now on it's only cell tech and 4hrs ED in the gym!
 
F117A Active Stealth said:
It's been repeatedly tested by many people, and if used correctly there should be no side effects.

Are you kidding me? Steroids act on a hormonal lvl, even protein shakes have side effects...


I don't get this, so you're saying that those who put on 20lbs of muscle after a cycle did so simply because they believed it would happen?

sorry could you rephrase that because i dont know what you'r saying


You're stereotyping everyone on this board because of a frikkin' ad? Man, honestly I am the furthest from that Stereotype, I'm sure many others are also the same way.

Am i really? first of all i never talked about the users on this board, i talked about steroid users and i got flamed by everyone so my guess is they all use the stuff.


Sorry but i see a problem here that is just growing and yes i am concerned.
 
You can think am jealous or watever but am trying to do is show you guys that you are acting on a very superficial level. 'Build muscles fast and get laid' theres more to life than that you know?.



Listen you pretentious retard, people here are doctors, lawyers, and many other things just like everyone else in society, doing plenty more than "just getting laid." Particularly funny coming from a 19 year old kid.

I'll finish with this because it's clear you're not cognizant enough to try and argue with:


Steroids and creatine are performance enhancers. Steroids act in one fashion, creatine in a seperate but in some ways simliar action.

Take creatine and you may gain 10lbs of intramuscular water. Some of which may translate to muscle because of the increased muscle bag size and hydration. Get off creatine, you'll probably lose some of it.

Take steroids and you may gain xxx amount of muscle. Get off steroids, you'll probably lose some of it.

Neither steroids nor creatine will create anything resembling and appreciable physique without considerable dedication in diet and training.

You seem to imply that steroids (such as testosterone, a naturally occuring hormone) will build "a 'freakish physique' out of thin air."

This shows again that your knowledge of steroids is virtually nil, which makes you about as qualified to lecture us on this as you, a 19 year old, are qualified to lecture the many accomplished professionals on this board about doing more with their lives.


Oh, and I just can't help myself.

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"The truth is no matter how much you lift or eat well you won't really put on weight without some extra help. "

"you can fool yourself all you want but you are taking loads of shots to acomplish a phisique that is rather unatainable without the use of this drug"

"I am currently taking cell-tec"


"The truth is no matter how much you lift or eat well you won't really put on weight without some extra help. "

"you can fool yourself all you want but you are taking loads of shots to acomplish a phisique that is rather unatainable without the use of this drug"

"I am currently taking cell-tec"


"The truth is no matter how much you lift or eat well you won't really put on weight without some extra help. "

"you can fool yourself all you want but you are taking loads of shots to acomplish a phisique that is rather unatainable without the use of this drug"

"I am currently taking cell-tec"


"The truth is no matter how much you lift or eat well you won't really put on weight without some extra help. "

"you can fool yourself all you want but you are taking loads of shots to acomplish a phisique that is rather unatainable without the use of this drug"

"I am currently taking cell-tec"


"The truth is no matter how much you lift or eat well you won't really put on weight without some extra help. "

"you can fool yourself all you want but you are taking loads of shots to acomplish a phisique that is rather unatainable without the use of this drug"

"I am currently taking cell-tec"
 
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listen if u came here to learn abt steroids- then shut up and read- don't post "AAS is dangerous " BS here. and if u don't agree then shut up and leave- don't tell us that we are fooling ourselves.
 
Slyth said:

my opinion is that if your not a pro bodybuilder why the heck do you take steroids for? do the real stuff you lazy MF.

I made this thread because i was looking for steroids info and i bump into a site that claims they are healthy, well you are not. you can fool yourself all you want but you are taking loads of shots to acomplish a phisique that is rather unatainable without the use of this drug. and the worst part is that ppl don't realize there is more to that in life.

You can think am jealous or watever but am trying to do is show you guys that you are acting on a very superficial level. 'Build muscles fast and get laid' theres more to life than that you know?


Slyth said:

first of all i never talked about the users on this board , i talked about steroid users and i got flamed by everyone so my guess is they all use the stuff.

Sorry but i see a problem here that is just growing and yes i am concerned.


I see your concern clearly. :rolleyes:

I also see your contradictions and hypocrisy.
 
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hah now your gonna tell me that because you have a lawyer you don't have enough time to work out so you have to take the 'juice'? I work in day and go to college in night just like father and my mother did and many other ppl in my family and many other students from my college (hit the gym early in the morning) so dont gime that work shit.

you know why you can't look like those pics (wich i find sort of grose, but thats just me) because they aren't real, you can't look like that without juicing yourself.

What i gain with creatine i won't lose, i do know about steroids and i know a shit load about how creatine works, granted some of the watter that was pulled to the muscles is gonna fade but the fact is i was able to push myself father in the gym and in the end i get more muscle simply because i had more energy. You know what steroids can do on a woman don't you? deeper voice, bigger clit ( geez) facial hair...does that look healthy to you?

If everyone here is into bodybuilding that is fine but i will probably never undertand is why anyone would be willing to to pay such a price to get 'bigger' , i mean how come bodybuilders don't restrain themselfs to building a real body, aren't they the ones with the time to do it?

you can flame all you want, am old enoug to take it while trying to get my point across.

how long has any of you been on steroids anyway? when i set a goal to gain 20 pounds i did that. i started to take some more protein and once i gained this pounds i manage to kept them without any trouble and i haven't had a protein shake in more than a year. i have weigt 72 kilos (give or take one) for more than a year.
 
Slyth said:


Are you kidding me? Steroids act on a hormonal lvl, even protein shakes have side effects...





Even water and the air you breathe have 'side effects' you silly fuckwit
 
Slyth said:
hah now your gonna tell me that because you have a lawyer you don't have enough time to work out so you have to take the 'juice'? I work in day and go to college in night just like father and my mother did and many other ppl in my family and many other students from my college (hit the gym early in the morning) so dont gime that work shit.

you know why you can't look like those pics (wich i find sort of grose, but thats just me) because they aren't real, you can't look like that without juicing yourself.

What i gain with creatine i won't lose, i do know about steroids and i know a shit load about how creatine works, granted some of the watter that was pulled to the muscles is gonna fade but the fact is i was able to push myself father in the gym and in the end i get more muscle simply because i had more energy. You know what steroids can do on a woman don't you? deeper voice, bigger clit ( geez) facial hair...does that look healthy to you?

If everyone here is into bodybuilding that is fine but i will probably never undertand is why anyone would be willing to to pay such a price to get 'bigger' , i mean how come bodybuilders don't restrain themselfs to building a real body, aren't they the ones with the time to do it?

you can flame all you want, am old enoug to take it while trying to get my point across.

how long has any of you been on steroids anyway? when i set a goal to gain 20 pounds i did that. i started to take some more protein and once i gained this pounds i manage to kept them without any trouble and i haven't had a protein shake in more than a year. i have weigt 72 kilos (give or take one) for more than a year.




This is amazing. Please continue.
 
Good shit frackal. BTW, you young know it all douche, you will not find another board with as many brilliant minds as this one. Educate yourself, please.
 
Slyth said:
hah now your gonna tell me that because you have a lawyer you don't have enough time to work out so you have to take the 'juice'? I work in day and go to college in night just like father and my mother did and many other ppl in my family and many other students from my college (hit the gym early in the morning) so dont gime that work shit.

Easily the dumbest thing I have ever read here.

Hey stupid, Frackal was referring to the "doctors and lawyers" to illustrate that members of this board are educated, intelligent, productive members of society.

His comment had nothing to do using steroids as a shortcut because of a lack of time.

Perhaps you should spend some time in a library, you nitwit.
 
Am clearly not doing any good here so am simply gonna stop talking about it.

Am just gonna say this is my problem because the whole world is affected by what goes on in the USA, Paris etc...heck i had a girl friend in school that was close to die because of some extreme diets, now i got 19 year old friends juicing themselfs trying to atain an unreal phisique. if you can't see a problem here well....

this simply seems superficial to me, you should excersise because its healthy and makes you feel good.
 
For all we know creatine could be worse then these large servings of creatine that is recomended. Please teach all your know of steroids too. lol
 
Slyth said:
Am clearly not doing any good here so am simply gonna stop talking about it.

Am just gonna say this is my problem because the whole world is affected by what goes on in the USA, Paris etc...heck i had a girl friend in school that was close to die because of some extreme diets, now i got 19 year old friends juicing themselfs trying to atain an unreal phisique. if you can't see a problem here well....

this simply seems superficial to me, you should excersise because its healthy and makes you feel good.


Now you're blaming the USA?

Venezuala has oil, doesn't it?

This is an international board shitball.

Seriously:

Originally posted by Slyt

" i still wanted to put on some more and reach the 95 kilos or something

than today am talking to a friend in the gym (hes 19 too but looks a lot better than me, sort of like i would like to look)"


"this simply seems superficial to me, you should excersise because its healthy and makes you feel good. "





" i still wanted to put on some more and reach the 95 kilos or something

than today am talking to a friend in the gym (hes 19 too but looks a lot better than me, sort of like i would like to look)"


"this simply seems superficial to me, you should excersise because its healthy and makes you feel good. "






" i still wanted to put on some more and reach the 95 kilos or something

than today am talking to a friend in the gym (hes 19 too but looks a lot better than me, sort of like i would like to look)"


"this simply seems superficial to me, you should excersise because its healthy and makes you feel good. "






Are you getting tired of this shit yet?
 
mrjoker5150 said:


Easily the dumbest thing I have ever read here.

Hey stupid, Frackal was referring to the "doctors and lawyers" to illustrate that members of this board are educated, intelligent, productive members of society.

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i dont know which post is dumber

this one or the one that said hi my name is ------ what are steroids and where do i get them
 
Slyth 4 MOD!!!
 
Slyth, you have any pics of your awesome physique?

I want to see what you've managed to do so far.


This isn't you, is it?

hank.jpg
 
LMAO!!!!!!! Listen dude!!!! I'm 51 steroids are used as replacement therapy to older guys like us...they even have longivity clinics to help prolong aging.....so don't come on here saying this & that without no proof to back it up.
I've been there & done that.
Now go home!!!!!



RADAR
 
Cannot believe my eyes. This dumbass needs to do some research before he comes here with all his criticizm. Like he has any right. And blaming the U.S.? You little fuck. Your university sure isnt doing you any good if you think you can go and give someone shit about a personal right and choice to look a certain way. Yes some BB's could never be the size they are without steriods which chemiclly aid in changing there appearance, but take this scenario. I personally know a family from your country with a 17 year old daughter. She was born with a desiese causing extreme facial deformation. She was flown to America where she underwent numerous surgerys to correct the way she looks. She was a very healthy 17 year old with no other ilnesses or any other medical problems, she just looked weird. Now since she had her appearance altered through an unnatural procedure is she wrong? Is she unhealthy because hse will have mild facial pains the rest of her life because of this procedure. Is she superficial because she wanted to improve her appearance? Ohh and on a final note to most here on the board(forgive me if I am wrong) most pros are not appealing to us so quit making us out to be juiceheads giving blowjobs to homos on the LV strip for money. Read up before you ever come back you little shit.
 
watch out...he's 150 lbs of SHREDDED CELL TECH MASS

how insecure can you get? You're talking about looking a certain way (i.e. saying people are trying to look too big) and criticizing and saying people just lift to get laid. sorry buddy, but if you're defense is that it looks gross and unattractive, you're lifting for the wrong reasons..which is why you have nothing to show for it. Bodybuilding is a SPORT and a lifestyle..Which involves goals and breaking through plateaus. The girls and what not, is just something that comes along with it


you obviously have some type of complex and are projecting it out towards people who juice. and next time you join a messageboard, don't have your very first post disgracing OUR sport and our lifestyle without even the slighest factial evidence.
 
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OMG, i have heard it all now!
Bro, you have just made yourself look like the biggest f**cking ass! You really need to get a clue!
 
I trained natuarally for about 8 years before I touched a roid. I in some ways felt the same way he did. I felt juicing was a the lazy way out and juicers were cheaters. But (and I'm not justifying here) if a women can go and literally chop meat off her face for nose jobs, cologen injects, cheeks, and suck fat out of her, or have her stomach stapled than why is it wrong for me to do a moderate cycle for 12 weeks out of 52?

Doing steroids is like drinking. A few drinks here and there aren't going to hurt you. Its when you couldn't imagine living without it and can't help but drowning urself in it is when your gonna have a problem.
 
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Holy -- I can't believe I missed this thread -- I have now seen it all.

Mods please ban this guy.

If not lets all send negative karma his way.
 
Slyth said:
Am clearly not doing any good here so am simply gonna stop talking about it.

Am just gonna say this is my problem because the whole world is affected by what goes on in the USA, Paris etc...heck i had a girl friend in school that was close to die because of some extreme diets, now i got 19 year old friends juicing themselfs trying to atain an unreal phisique. if you can't see a problem here well....

this simply seems superficial to me, you should excersise because its healthy and makes you feel good.
i tend to agree with you..imo you have much more wisdom than most 19 year olds,and you definitely have it more together than a 19 year old on the juice
 
RADAR said:
LMAO!!!!!!! Listen dude!!!! I'm 51 steroids are used as replacement therapy to older guys like us...they even have longivity clinics to help prolong aging.....so don't come on here saying this & that without no proof to back it up.
I've been there & done that.
Now go home!!!!!



RADAR
big difference between teenagers on the sauce and 40ish guys on HRT
 
For me? I'm 42 and I will keep getting smaller, no matter what I lift or eat UNLESS I use steroids.

That's life. That's why I'm starting a cycle soon.

By the way, I know Venezuela. The only thing you need to score with the chicks there is an American Passport!

Viva Colombia! (Pero soy un gringo)
 
hahha, frackal you're too funny...

slyth -- you realize you're using one of the biggest rip off creatine products out there... heh.
 
man, oh, man - this funny - a 19 year old that is teachnig us a lesson here.

slyth:
1) Do not like roids - do not use them - shut up and lift
2) You are 19, and you are still skinny so you can put on 20+LB without any problems - try to be 200+ and 35.
3) dude - admit it - you are just jellous that your buddy on Winny gets more chics
4) and last - creatine does nothing for you except for giving you a little pump; yeah you gain weight, but it is all water anyway - it makes you look bigger, but that is about it.

so.. perhaps you can read a little more, learn a little more and then open your mouth to say something intelligent
 
Ok my question is why the f*ck do you give 2 sh*ts about what we do to ourselves. I mean why would you ever come out and b*tch about the way we look and your friend looking like you want to look if you weren't jeolous. Truthfully I think you need to do a little more research my friend and maybe get the actual truth pounded into your thick listen to what the media says skull before you post any kind of comments like that. I agree with what was said above about the creatine. I guess creatine is all right to take although its man made for supplementation and it helps ya but steroids aren't ok even though they are also man made to help one gain muscle. You have to understand that you have to do things the safe way *cough* bloodwork, post-cyle, non-abuse and maybe you would understand the whole thing about being healthy. Do me a favor bro and research, research, and research and Im not talking strictly what the media says about steroids. Once your done with that come back and tell us we were wrong.

Ownt :mad:
 
Dont you guys think there should be an age limit before posting? Not in years old but maybe actual time spent training? We might also want to discuss to use of some sort of IQ testing because this guy wouldn't get past a minimal test. 19years old huh? sounds about right. The scary thing is, even after all the idiotic statements, he still can't understand why we hate him!
 
tuche'
I have been lifting for about ten years. I've been really serious for the past 3-4 years. I finally reached a point in my life where I could not seem to make any progress, I felt like I had reached my genetic potential. I am currently 6'1" and 240lbs with approx. 8% BF. I like being the biggest guy in the room and that is my only goal. I don't care about other people's opinions or goals or morals, I want to be fucking huge and I am on my way. That is why I juice, for me. Not for you, not for my wifr, and not for some smartass kid who doesn't understand wnythign about this. This is a choice and it has been made with a clear mind and as I've said before, You can be natural all day long and that is great for you, but you will never be as big or as strong as me
 
why is everybody in here so fucking offensive?
that fool just spoke his mind , and everyone acts like they have been stepped on their feet.
He may not have as much experience in life as some of the older guys on this board , but pleeezze...

He made a decision for himself , which I respect and obviously he made a THE healthier decsision.
I´m not saying it is right that he`s taking his decision as the only RIGHT one , but certainly somebody talking about steroids being healthy for the body is just talking crap.
I´m not saying don`t take steroids , I will start a primo cycle in a short amount of time myself, but don`t expect steroids to improve your health situation.
Steroids are medications intended for people with severe illnesses, and they DO have side effects; I guess everybody in here knows that ; but believe me ,you can`t be serious about thinking to get away clean when juicing every year with a major amount of steroids.
But like with everything in life , it depends on the amount of time and the dosage , which effects will occur.
That is what this guy didn`t recognize , he put everyone in the same pot.

And by the way...when he was talking about America influencing, he was certainly right. The US DO have a big influence on all western civilization societies. Nowhere in the world is the cult of the body as much developed as in the US , so don`t expect that to not influence other countries; with all the american media being around in the world and America being a trendsetter in many parts of society`s activities.
That doesn`t mean I blame the states for someone using steroids, but I want to make clear that the US have a big impact on todays view of the human body and growing importance of looks in western societies.
 
boyer said:
I would like to seesome people to post experiences and reasons that they juice for this kid.

I'll step up to the plate and bat first!!!!!
first of all i started a year ago after visiting this board and researching for 2 yrs,i was tired of being weak,my job requires me to service electronics-even big screen tv's ,let me tell you its a bitch trying to carry one of them in for servicing,and another note...my sex drive had demished until i had absolutely no desire for sex, the wife understood ,BUT!!!! It totally sucked being a man(even tho i didn't feel like one) and couldn't do my job in the bedroom....since then,things have turned around 1000% ,i check out younger chics,and they are checking me out-my skin tone has improved alot,no more wrinkles as of late ,plus i can kick guys ass half my age. So now tell me-am i slowly killing my self?? no,and i don't do insane dosages,i have absolutely never felt better in my life,Elite has been a godsend and i would rather die then go back to what i once was!!!!

Pronto!!!! take that and smoke it!!!!!



RADAR
 
RADAR said:


I'll step up to the plate and bat first!!!!!
first of all i started a year ago after visiting this board and researching for 2 yrs,i was tired of being weak,my job requires me to service electronics-even big screen tv's ,let me tell you its a bitch trying to carry one of them in for servicing,and another note...my sex drive had demished until i had absolutely no desire for sex, the wife understood ,BUT!!!! It totally sucked being a man(even tho i didn't feel like one) and couldn't do my job in the bedroom....since then,things have turned around 1000% ,i check out younger chics,and they are checking me out-my skin tone has improved alot,no more wrinkles as of late ,plus i can kick guys ass half my age. So now tell me-am i slowly killing my self?? no,and i don't do insane dosages,i have absolutely never felt better in my life,Elite has been a godsend and i would rather die then go back to what i once was!!!!

Pronto!!!! take that and smoke it!!!!!



RADAR

news flash!!!

radar loves exclamation points!!!!




















haha j/k bro. you're my favorite energetic old man..who could probably kick my ass
 
Hey Goosman! We arent trashing the kid because he made a choice not to use steroids. We are trashing him because he came here, and like you said, put all steroid users in the same pot. Thats fine if he made that choice but he didnt need to come here throwin opinions around that not a damn one of us wanted to hear. Not to junp on you either dude but he also was making all kinds of statements and generalizations about something he knew almost nothing about. I totally respect this kid for having an opinion and sticking to it but that doesnt mean he had to be so closed minded to everone elses. To me it came across as him thinking hes right and theres no posssible way he could be wrong. Always be open to more knoledge and experiences slyth.
 
i don't respect this kid at all- bcoz while he might have chosen one path he doesn't have a clue abt ours and yet comes in here and tries to put us all down thinking he can change the world for the better. give an asshole like him some power and watch him take away other ppls rights to free choice- watch him decide for everyone else what is good for them.
 
and he doesn't have a clue abt gaining naturally either. most of us may use steroids but that doesn't mean we rely on them. so who the fuck is he to come here and tell us abt natural training?
 
Gooseman said:
why is everybody in here so fucking offensive?
that fool just spoke his mind , and everyone acts like they have been stepped on their feet.
He may not have as much experience in life as some of the older guys on this board , but pleeezze...

He made a decision for himself , which I respect and obviously he made a THE healthier decsision.
I´m not saying it is right that he`s taking his decision as the only RIGHT one , but certainly somebody talking about steroids being healthy for the body is just talking crap.
I´m not saying don`t take steroids , I will start a primo cycle in a short amount of time myself, but don`t expect steroids to improve your health situation.
Steroids are medications intended for people with severe illnesses, and they DO have side effects; I guess everybody in here knows that ; but believe me ,you can`t be serious about thinking to get away clean when juicing every year with a major amount of steroids.
But like with everything in life , it depends on the amount of time and the dosage , which effects will occur.
That is what this guy didn`t recognize , he put everyone in the same pot.

And by the way...when he was talking about America influencing, he was certainly right. The US DO have a big influence on all western civilization societies. Nowhere in the world is the cult of the body as much developed as in the US , so don`t expect that to not influence other countries; with all the american media being around in the world and America being a trendsetter in many parts of society`s activities.
That doesn`t mean I blame the states for someone using steroids, but I want to make clear that the US have a big impact on todays view of the human body and growing importance of looks in western societies.


Read the posts goosman. They were condescending and offensive.
 
little chris said:
Doing steroids is like drinking. A few drinks here and there aren't going to hurt you. Its when you couldn't imagine living without it and can't help but drowning urself in it is when your gonna have a problem.

You mean I have a problem?
 
slyth u have been missinformed, steroids are the breakfast of CHAMPIONS! And also here in USA only the strong survive!
So dont be mad that you and your buddy did some winstrol and you didnt get any gains because you relied on protein powder made of powdered sheet rock as your primary protein source.
 
Slyth said:
Am clearly not doing any good here so am simply gonna stop talking about it.

Am just gonna say this is my problem because the whole world is affected by what goes on in the USA, Paris etc...heck i had a girl friend in school that was close to die because of some extreme diets, now i got 19 year old friends juicing themselfs trying to atain an unreal phisique. if you can't see a problem here well....

this simply seems superficial to me, you should excersise because its healthy and makes you feel good.

People exercise for a lot of diiferent reasons, not just yours!!!
 
RADAR said:


I'll step up to the plate and bat first!!!!!
first of all i started a year ago after visiting this board and researching for 2 yrs,i was tired of being weak,my job requires me to service electronics-even big screen tv's ,let me tell you its a bitch trying to carry one of them in for servicing,and another note...my sex drive had demished until i had absolutely no desire for sex, the wife understood ,BUT!!!! It totally sucked being a man(even tho i didn't feel like one) and couldn't do my job in the bedroom....since then,things have turned around 1000% ,i check out younger chics,and they are checking me out-my skin tone has improved alot,no more wrinkles as of late ,plus i can kick guys ass half my age. So now tell me-am i slowly killing my self?? no,and i don't do insane dosages,i have absolutely never felt better in my life,Elite has been a godsend and i would rather die then go back to what i once was!!!!

Pronto!!!! take that and smoke it!!!!!



RADAR
Great info . I am interested to know what has been responsible for your improved complexion and clearing up wrinkles?
 
Gooseman said:
why is everybody in here so fucking offensive?
that fool just spoke his mind , and everyone acts like they have been stepped on their feet.
He may not have as much experience in life as some of the older guys on this board , but pleeezze...


ok,
speaking your mind is no prob

critisizing people on a life style he knows nothing about is a no no. he doesnt know enough about steroids and body building to insult everyone on this boards intellegence.

learn about the subject before you open your big mouth and critisize.

man i wish steroids were a magic potion like that guy speakes of, because if it were we would all be 250 lbs 7%bf.
 
boyer said:

Great info . I am interested to know what has been responsible for your improved complexion and clearing up wrinkles?

Test lots of it and oil of olay doesn't hurt either!!!!!
:)


RADAR
 
Gooseman said:
why is everybody in here so fucking offensive?
that fool just spoke his mind , and everyone acts like they have been stepped on their feet.
He may not have as much experience in life as some of the older guys on this board , but pleeezze...

He made a decision for himself , which I respect and obviously he made a THE healthier decsision.
I´m not saying it is right that he`s taking his decision as the only RIGHT one , but certainly somebody talking about steroids being healthy for the body is just talking crap.
I´m not saying don`t take steroids , I will start a primo cycle in a short amount of time myself, but don`t expect steroids to improve your health situation.
Steroids are medications intended for people with severe illnesses, and they DO have side effects; I guess everybody in here knows that ; but believe me ,you can`t be serious about thinking to get away clean when juicing every year with a major amount of steroids.
But like with everything in life , it depends on the amount of time and the dosage , which effects will occur.
That is what this guy didn`t recognize , he put everyone in the same pot.

And by the way...when he was talking about America influencing, he was certainly right. The US DO have a big influence on all western civilization societies. Nowhere in the world is the cult of the body as much developed as in the US , so don`t expect that to not influence other countries; with all the american media being around in the world and America being a trendsetter in many parts of society`s activities.
That doesn`t mean I blame the states for someone using steroids, but I want to make clear that the US have a big impact on todays view of the human body and growing importance of looks in western societies.



"RESPECT" you sumed this thread up very nicely.
 
hey- i think the kid crusader has disappeared. he wanted to "change the world for the better", realised that we at EF are too hardcore and quietly slunk away!
 
reminds me of the time of a guy on a soapbox preaching and 50 people throwing eggs 7 tomatos!


RADAR
 
rodneyabs said:
Slyth

you are a pussy, and your country is a shit hole.

That is all.

Abs

At least in this "shit hole country" we have beautiful women everywhere and we have the best cacao of the world...
anyway... I love all the beautiful places (no matter if those places are hidden "shit holes" in the planet)

I'm not agree with Slyth but your extra-comments are out of place
 
jhonj said:


At least in this "shit hole country" we have beautiful women everywhere and we have the best cacao of the world...
anyway... I love all the beautiful places (no matter if those places are hidden "shit holes" in the planet)

I'm not agree with Slyth but your extra-comments are out of place

I don't think he was being serious... and yes!! god damnit your women are beautiful.. i'll send you two american girls for 1 fine specimen from south america
 
eviction said:


I don't think he was being serious... and yes!! god damnit your women are beautiful.. i'll send you two american girls for 1 fine specimen from south america


mmmm... 2x1.. It sounds not bad at all... do you think FedEX or UPS are suitable for sending this kind of merchandise?? :D :D :D :D lol
 
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you came here to learn about steroids??? or to learn how to grow without steroids???? matter fact thought here your cycle!!

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