So, the Mods asked me why Satch's info had not been posted.

[PCfuzz]

George, you are a great person for all you do and it goes without saying that you have our best intrest at heart. I'm not plat right now but I will be soon and What you just said makes me feel like I can be safe here. Thanx for NOT being a money hungrey pig that doesn't give a shit about the little guy.


Thanx
PCfuzz

 

[fbodyguy02]

Very well said. GS is a very respectable man.

 

[RvN]

Oh dear....

Stinks.

 

[PCfuzz]

Oh dear....

Stinks.

What does???
Your breath after doing VERY high Protein and LOW carbs???
Well that is what I hear happens. Other wise, tell more than just 2 works.


Thanx
PCfuzz

 

[BigCracker]

A BB scamming people??? That's unheard of!!!! Not!!!

Shit, half the BB's I know get $$$ up front from people to buy the gear that other people gave them $$$ for a month earlier. It's like they're using their customers to fund a whole line of credit to support their own habit. On top of it they mark it up 100% and you practically need to camp out on their doorstep to even find out order status.

 

[itlnstln]

A BB scamming people??? That's unheard of!!!! Not!!!

Shit, half the BB's I know get $$$ up front from people to buy the gear that other people gave them $$$ for a month earlier. It's like they're using their customers to fund a whole line of credit to support their own habit. On top of it they mark it up 100% and you practically need to camp out on their doorstep to even find out order status.

I think this thread was meant to "inform" - not start a "Scamming 101 Class"

 

[Wrongun]

Hopefully that clarifies the position and any business can not be open to that sort of risk just in case its wrong and totally support Elite in this decision as its the only one open to them.

The privacy policy is there to protect us all and should remain. If anyone wants the details then it is open knowledge that Indy claims to have them so why not just mail him and obtain. If he will not give you them then your beef is with him.

At the end of the day any information held by the Mod team here came from Indy so you will have all you need or is available. if Indy will not give it to you then your beef is with him.

Surely thats end of story and hopefully Satch will meet with someone who lost money and get what he deserves but that can not be at the expense of Elite who effectively have nothing to do with the whole drama.

Wrongun!

 

[RvN]

Hopefully that clarifies the position and any business can not be open to that sort of risk just in case its wrong and totally support Elite in this decision as its the only one open to them.

The privacy policy is there to protect us all and should remain. If anyone wants the details then it is open knowledge that Indy claims to have them so why not just mail him and obtain. If he will not give you them then your beef is with him.

At the end of the day any information held by the Mod team here came from Indy so you will have all you need or is available. if Indy will not give it to you then your beef is with him.

Surely thats end of story and hopefully Satch will meet with someone who lost money and get what he deserves but that can not be at the expense of Elite who effectively have nothing to do with the whole drama.

Wrongun!

that can not be at the expense of Elite who effectively have nothing to do with the whole drama.

In that case why did they push him as a source?

You're a good guy Wrongun (you helped me out with something last year) but i disagree with you mate, Im sure i read that Indy had met Satch and has pictures of him, thus there can be NO mistaken identity problem, Scammers have always had their info posted here, Why is he the exception?, As far as the legal implications go, Any picture/name posted would just serve as a warning to others to steer clear of him, I see no harm in this at all.

 

[blut wump]

GS's post doesn't make comment on whether Satch's personal info may be posted. What GS is saying is that Elite's privacy policy ensures that any info held on the Elite servers is available to no-one. That privacy policy is part of what helps Elite to function in that members in oppressed countries where gear is illegal to possess and use, unlike the UK, can be here without fear of repression.

Sometimes such policies go against what many would like but for them to be compromised on request would undermine this whole site.

 

[Wrongun]

In that case why did they push him as a source?

You're a good guy Wrongun (you helped me out with something last year) but i disagree with you mate, Im sure i read that Indy had met Satch and has pictures of him, thus there can be NO mistaken identity problem, Scammers have always had their info posted here, Why is he the exception?, As far as the legal implications go, Any picture/name posted would just serve as a warning to others to steer clear of him, I see no harm in this at all.

mate it was the same with Chase when he turned scammer. All the feedback it was 100% him etc etc and guess what it was wrong. It resulted in making some poor guys life hell and possible leagal cases against Elite.

Now my question to you is what if it is posted what will it achieve? Absolutely nothing it will drop and thats it (same with every other scammer named and shamed). It would however produce risk to Elite for no gain IMHO.

Now we agree Indy has this info. He claims its accurate so why does he not just issue to anyone that asks and then something can be done about it. So many have taken the time to post on here but use that time to mail Indy and you have what you are after.

Also how confident are you that Indy is telling the truth? I have read so many threads accusing him of being implicated. Is he? I really do not know but lets say he is then he could issue wrong info. that is then posted on here and bang Elite is taken down of another legal case and actually assists Satch does it not?

So why don't people get the info and deal with it instead of moaning on here? Not agains you mate but in my 6 years on these boards i have seen so many scammers and not one who has info posted has actually been made to pay so it really serves no purpose. If you were going to do something about it then get the info from indy, verify it and act that simple. Posting it on here serves no purpose (except if its wrong and you only have Indys word it assists Satch as Elite will be closed).

As for Elite ''pushing him as a source'' then he posted here. I do not agree with sources open posting and making it obvious but come on we all have to make our own minds up. Mods have a thankless task. they hear a lot of info and try and help as they know the rep of a source. they are heroes 99% of the time and then bang one turns and its their fault. No win situation but the old phrase of buyer beware always is always evident i am afraid. Please remember the commodity we are discussing its not a simple e-book sale.

Hope you see where i am coming from

Wrongun!