So, I got my testorone level test results back... and it is LOW!

[bilter]

was your last PCT just HCG??? And, what are you doing this time for PCT?

 

[sigmund]

Also, I think I know what might have gone wrong. I think I had some bad or bogus HCG when I did the PCT after my last cycle. I am doing HCG now, from a different source, and boy, does it make my balls sore! I assume that is because they are growing. It is a good feeling, like something important is going on down there. When I did HCG in my PCT, I felt no such sensation. Might have been bad/expired HCG?! In ang event, this is a good sign of potential recovery starting.

Sounds good. If HCG is left out in direct sunlight or gets left out in the heat (in a car for example) for an extended period it ruins it - not sure if that makes any difference in your case, but I had a duff HCG set during the summer because of this.

What are you running with the HCG to keep E2 from getting too high?

 

[phatrr]

Also, I think I know what might have gone wrong. I think I had some bad or bogus HCG when I did the PCT after my last cycle. I am doing HCG now, from a different source, and boy, does it make my balls sore! I assume that is because they are growing. It is a good feeling, like something important is going on down there. When I did HCG in my PCT, I felt no such sensation. Might have been bad/expired HCG?! In ang event, this is a good sign of potential recovery starting.

I notice hcg's effects right away - immediate horniness, balls ache like you just have to bust a nut. Nut size always increases quickly for me with it. Did you read Doc Crisler's paper about hcg protocol while you were over on his site?

While it sucks that your last pct was botched b/c of it, it sounds like you found a good answer and are moving forward.

Thanks for keeping us posted, bro, and good luck.

 

[djsf]

was your last PCT just HCG??? And, what are you doing this time for PCT?

My PCT was (and always is) HCG right at the end of the cycle (overlapping it), then starting about 10-14 days after the last shot (while long esters decay) I start nolva and clomid and run them for 4 weeks, gradually decreasing doses. I'm doing essentially the same thing again.

 

[PolfaJelfa]

MR.X what is the difference in HRT & TRT?

 

[djsf]

HRT = Hormone replacement therapy
TRT = Testosterone replacement therapy
Basically they are the same thing, TRT is more specific than HRT (HRT could use, say, deca, a stack, or some other steroid)

 

[c gheller]

Been thinking of running 50mg DEca weekly with my HRT dose of test @ either 100mg or 250mg (undecided on how much to run) as a base. What do you guys think of the deca idea?

 

[djsf]

Been thinking of running 50mg DEca weekly with my HRT dose of test @ either 100mg or 250mg (undecided on how much to run) as a base. What do you guys think of the deca idea?

Why would you do that? What do you mean "as a base"? Are you trying to stay always-on or do you want to let your HPTA fully recover between cycles?

 

[c gheller]

No im thinking as a HRT base ..deca for the joints.

 

[djsf]

Sounds like an ok HRT dose for deca. Would you be running test with that? HRT users often like test because is boosts your libido. Deca alone would probably not have that effect. Would you run test and deca together as a base, or just deca?