Smoking Bud while using Gear

[slat1]

We all have "bad" things we like... for me its booze and stippers so I can't say either way.
I have a buddy who one day showed up and said "look at this". His left nipple was the nastiest case of gyno I had ever seen... and he could get fluid out of it! He had been smoking a mad amount of pot the last few months.
I told him that pot is supposed to increase estrogen levels in men. He quit and the gyno went away after a bit. He didn't change anything else.
Moral of the story... just wanted everyone else to know the nasty shit I saw and I have to live with... LOL

 

[halfaclue]

Performance enhancing drugs arent recreational, they ENHANCE athletic performance. You take them to help you reach a goal faster or a goal which would be unobtainable without PED.

Explain to me how that is the same as taking a drug just because it makes you feel good, makes your head go a bit funny and makes you laugh at dumb shit?
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PED are illegal and not meant to help aid people in sports but to aid people with illness. The term PED was coined because of athletes who cheated...not some catchy supplement company who thought the phrase would sell more product. I don't take smoke to "feel good" or "make my head go funny" or "laugh at dumb shit"...I smoke to help me relax and fall asleep because most gear tweaks my anxiety as well as restless ness while I sleep. Why can't you except that for some both can go together and work together?

 

[terrapin]

If you'd argue that casual AAS use is more detrimental to your health than casual pot smoking then why are you posting on an AAS board?[/QUOTE]

This statement is ridiculous. Oh, I suppose that we should all just turn a blind eye to the detrimental effects of AAS because we think there is some noble reason for taking them (ie: better physique). What makes that anymore noble than wanting to watch a funny movie while stoned or wanting to get a better nights sleep. Who are you to judge what is the RIGHT drug to take and for what purpose?!?! Ease up on the hypocrisy...Again, you don't need to get you blood work done if you smoke pot once and awhile, but you NEED to get your blood work done even after a MILD cycle - that should tell you all you need to know!

 

[fugetaboutit]

pit-bullbob, sounds like you're hooked on caffiene now by the way you typed your words! LOL! Anyway, everyone is different. There's no right or wrong here on this subject. Everyone will forever react differently to weed and use it for different reasons. Nothing wrong with that IMO.

 

[Rod555]

This statement is ridiculous. Oh, I suppose that we should all just turn a blind eye to the detrimental effects of AAS because we think there is some noble reason for taking them (ie: better physique). What makes that anymore noble than wanting to watch a funny movie while stoned or wanting to get a better nights sleep. Who are you to judge what is the RIGHT drug to take and for what purpose?!?! Ease up on the hypocrisy...Again, you don't need to get you blood work done if you smoke pot once and awhile, but you NEED to get your blood work done even after a MILD cycle - that should tell you all you need to know!

The way i see it they are at complete different ends of the spectrum, people take AAS because they are dedicated to weight lifting and fitness. Smoking pot is different lifestyle altogether. The two would never meet in my life. Obviously you two feel differently, but im not convinced using a pscycoactive narcotic to "help you sleep" is the best idea. Its often the lack of weed which is keeping you awake in the end so its a vicious cycle.

As ive mentioned before ive seen too many of my good freinds fuck themselves up through smoking weed, so no, im never going to accept it.

I saw a TV Doc last night about kids who had smoked weed from their early teens and developed scizophrenia in early 20s. Thats proven, and there a plenty more reasons not to do it too.

Do what you want, its your body but just dont think its a harmless drug, coz it aint.

 

[terrapin]

The way i see it they are at complete different ends of the spectrum, people take AAS because they are dedicated to weight lifting and fitness. Smoking pot is different lifestyle altogether. The two would never meet in my life. Obviously you two feel differently, but im not convinced using a pscycoactive narcotic to "help you sleep" is the best idea. Its often the lack of weed which is keeping you awake in the end so its a vicious cycle.

As ive mentioned before ive seen too many of my good freinds fuck themselves up through smoking weed, so no, im never going to accept it.

I saw a TV Doc last night about kids who had smoked weed from their early teens and developed scizophrenia in early 20s. Thats proven, and there a plenty more reasons not to do it too.

Do what you want, its your body but just dont think its a harmless drug, coz it aint.

Agreed - it ain't harmless. Drug use (no matter what the drug is) is a personal choice.

 

[fugetaboutit]

It's not a harmless drug, but people react differently to it and some people don't get any symptoms and some do. That's all. Alot of people tolerate it quite well and it doesn't do shit to them....on the negative side that is. For me, there's no vicious cycle since I don't use it everyday....or close to that.....and it certainly doesn't keep me awake if I don't use it to go to bed. We're not talking withdrawl from crack symptoms here. Most people I know that use don't abuse, maybe that's why. Also, the few that develop scizo, are just that.....the few. very rare cuz I've never heard that b4 and I've seen a lot of potheads from college and have run into them since and they turned out just fine. Anyway, not condeming or condoning....like many of us have said already...to each his own. I just don't think it's a big deal.

 

[Twinpeaks]

Does smoking bud affect your results while cycling? I use it to calm me down and not flip out. Thanks,

Smoking "bud" raises estrogen levels. Not good unless you want boobs

 

[Rod555]

Agreed - it ain't harmless. Drug use (no matter what the drug is) is a personal choice.

Cool. Agree to disagree on this one then bro!

I know ive got a tendancy to jump my soapbox over this subject! but i do have my reasons.

 

[terrapin]

Cool. Agree to disagree on this one then bro!

I know ive got a tendancy to jump my soapbox over this subject! but i do have my reasons.

Cool - I agree. I've been known to get up on a soapbox now and again...