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GrandMaster
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nipples said:
i dont think so,....
.....but i was baked all day! lol........my Hams and buttox are still very sore from my workout
quadkilla31
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Stupid question. It's bad for you all the way around. Why even bother.nipples said:
spikemydog
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so studies say but who really knows what there feeding us on that issue?????????
GrandMaster
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quadkilla31 said:
wtf u talking about man?!?
weed isnt BAD for you. there are NO long term effects.. ZERO.
it has already been proven but its not being spilt out, because there would be a great ordeal of ppl smoking up everywhere, and things may " get out of hand" (opinion of the Gov'T)
short term,. memoryloss, dilousional(sp?)... bla bla bla, we all know that.
weed is not going to kill you,...unless you decide to do something irrational.
spikemydog
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arnold did it he was the man also still is haha. getting wasted all the time equals a waste.....no time to train eat right always beat but getting high here and there????????? who knows what ?
GrandMaster
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HumanTarget said:
of course not.
thats why i think when someone does it. dont go endangering others
if ur going to smoke up, and fuck something up,.. make sure its urself and nothing else
showtime2004
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Not to open up this political can of worms, but i think that marijuana use has been proven to be fairly benign over the long term. In cases where people are suffering from illness or pain (cancer, siezures, etc.) marijuana has often been shown to provide better relief to these people, moreso than prescription pain killers. I don't think that anyone is willing to argue that long-term use of prescription narcotics is better for you that long-term marijuana use. If so, lets hear the arguement.
anthony518
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I smoke and never seen a problem, expect over eating. Or is that a problem?
showtime2004
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Well, if thats the extent of your argument, its shallow at best. First, steroid use is illegal, unless you are one of the lucky people who have a prescription. So to say that something is "wrong" simply because it is illegal doesn't hold much water in this forum. I'm not advocating drug use, I'm just saying that it isn't necessarily harmful. Alcohol tends to be far more harmful than marijuana. You very rarly hear of fatal automobile accidents involving marijuana, although alcohol related crashes are a bordline epidemic. You seem to have some very deep seeded feelings about marijuana use and I'm curious where they are coming from. Maybe you would share why you feel so strongly.HumanTarget said:
HardHat87
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I used to smoke a lot of pot, but I quit about 2 years ago. For me when I did smoke I had no motivation to do anything, and was tired a lot. Even the next day when I didnt smoke anything. Plus it is pretty harsh on the lungs, more so than tobacco. Not saying it would be a problem with the occational use but if it was everyday then it would pose a potentiel health problem.
quadkilla31
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Spoken like a true pothead. Hey but whatever you want to do.GrandMaster said:
I smoke and it hasn't seemed to effect my lifting or sports at all. I don't smoke often though, maybe once a month.
StereOMaN
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I'm pretty sure there is a testosterone decline when you are a perma-fry but for casual use I don't think it makes a difference. Humantarget and quadkilla, you crack me up you should not be doing steroids if you concider that a valid opinion with such a ludicrice lack of information. The tetrahydrcalibanols actually leave absolutely no damage, they mildly depress mostly forebrain communication and when they clear right now of your system (2weeks, however still detectable up to 6months max) there is no damage at all. So you'll be a little bit dumber for a little bit then nothing. Yes pot does resinate 20x as much as tabbaco, but lacks many of the harsh carcinogens, However I used to smoke pot chronically and never feel it at all doing cardio, but if I even spend an hour in a smokey bar I will litterally be weezing the next day? If thats your concern use a vaporizer, it only burns the THC. Now this here is hit and miss, and I can't explain it, but has been verified by many other people I have trained with: I have smoked pot before a workout in the past and have busted plateau's to peices, it CAN give you a super intense 'zone' when used properly I have maxed higher gone longer and have had some of the best workouts of my life, no joke; other times they can be crap... 
And as for the safety issue of working out high, as I said, the effects are on the forebrain not the hindbrain - all of your motor neurons are back there, and your cerebellum coordinates your movements, unaffected: reason why people can drive high with very low incidence of accidents. As well reinforcing the motor autonomy from the forebrain, majority of motions that one goes through in a workout are not processed by the brain, but instead the spinalchord, in its 'muscle memory' stores. That is why the old addage: Never forget how to ride a bike, is 100% true. Well I rambled on enough, and I think Human Target is probably peaved enough right now. But keeping with the theme of the board, are these substances good or bad that is for the individual to judge what is important is that the information is provided, and the individual makes their own informed decision. Me, I quit smoking pot. Anyone has any more detail or specifics (receptors and such) for this please post.
And as for the safety issue of working out high, as I said, the effects are on the forebrain not the hindbrain - all of your motor neurons are back there, and your cerebellum coordinates your movements, unaffected: reason why people can drive high with very low incidence of accidents. As well reinforcing the motor autonomy from the forebrain, majority of motions that one goes through in a workout are not processed by the brain, but instead the spinalchord, in its 'muscle memory' stores. That is why the old addage: Never forget how to ride a bike, is 100% true. Well I rambled on enough, and I think Human Target is probably peaved enough right now. But keeping with the theme of the board, are these substances good or bad that is for the individual to judge what is important is that the information is provided, and the individual makes their own informed decision. Me, I quit smoking pot. Anyone has any more detail or specifics (receptors and such) for this please post.
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quadkilla31
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I don't really care if has a effect on your gains or your test levels either. I don't smoke or drink so it doesn't effect me one way or the other. Why if you put in all the hard work in the gym and all the hard work that goes in your diet to even mess with either one. Drinking and smoking either, every once in a while or everyday is just not something i want a part of my life, but like i said whatever someone wants to do it's not for me to judge.
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do you know how many people have fucked up their lives cuz of that shit? i know, there are a lot of successful people who smoke dope, like Snoop Dogg and the Portland Trailblazers, but the fact is, i see way too many people who would rather do bong hits than be productive. i mean, guess who hasn't shoveled their snow this year?? the fucking burnouts down the street. (end of rant)
TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT
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quadkilla31 said:
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Excidium28
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GrandMaster said:
"weed isnt BAD for you" You like being DUMB and slow.
"there are NO long term effects" the weed today is 10 times stronger than when they tested it. And you dont even know what people spray it with or what kind of soil they grow it in to make it stronger.
It lowers your test levels and i think clogs ur water pores.
StereOMaN
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Yep weed is stronger than its ever been, still doesn't make it harmful, besides temporarily degrading your cognitive levels, it has no permanent effects. And yes weed can be a lifestyle, although not chemically addictive the high is pyschologically addictive, so yes people can fall into that. That is where it requires some responsability, me I quit smoking like I said before, however before new year I just finished a semester while smoking chronically with my roommate, ed or eod. I still got in great workouts swam everyday and wound up with a GPA of 3.7/4 him, he just got accepted into his graduate studies. But again if you are on cycle yeah it does make sence to leave all of your indulgences untill after the cycle to maximize your gains, your choice tho. Thats all I got to say on this.
I smoked pot for 14 years and never felt it caused any real problems until I got caught in the military and had to quit. It's amazing how much better my brain started to work and all of a sudden some things started to make sense. I reall wish I had never started, I might have actually done a lot more things and got better grades in school. I really hope none of my kids ever start using drugs because they really do mess up your life. I also think that is why I have to take SSRI's for the rest of my life because I was so wasted growing up that I just feel emotionally numb all the time now. I have been clean from recreational drugs since 1983 and still have issues I could have avoided by not starting.
Its certainly not something thats good for you----but with all things carefully and in moderation
1.Should be highly illegal to do anything (alcohol,weed,pills) that fucks with you while driving/ public place----but in privacy of your home should be able to do whatever yuo wanna do
2. Duh it hurts the lungs. Any thing you inhale like that would. Go smoke dried horse shit and it'll hurt you lungs. Tobaccos the worst on this because extra chemicals+highly addictive
3.If ya gotta get high then hell, their are safer ways to do pot now. Vaporizer-still not good but a lot less-----Cook the shit---------Hash--a lot less smoking for desired effects
just do what ever the fuck you want to do
1.Should be highly illegal to do anything (alcohol,weed,pills) that fucks with you while driving/ public place----but in privacy of your home should be able to do whatever yuo wanna do
2. Duh it hurts the lungs. Any thing you inhale like that would. Go smoke dried horse shit and it'll hurt you lungs. Tobaccos the worst on this because extra chemicals+highly addictive
3.If ya gotta get high then hell, their are safer ways to do pot now. Vaporizer-still not good but a lot less-----Cook the shit---------Hash--a lot less smoking for desired effects
just do what ever the fuck you want to do
GrandMaster
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Excidium28 said:
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...whaat? *cough cough*.???LoL j/k
digit0x
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I'm sure there has been no funded research into the interaction of AAS and THC in the body and hence there can be no conclusion drawn to that problem specifically. Its a matter of determination. If you can put on 20 pounds during a cycle while being high the entire time, more power to you. However, I wouldn't be surprised to find this is an extremely rare occurence. So lets look at our body building successes, guys who have the build we all strive for, and see if it affected them. The question was about conflicts with concurrent smoking and injecting, not right or wrong.
savage1026
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I was wondering how much chronic marijuana use will lower one's test levels. I did some research but came up empty handed. Can anyone shed some light? All i can find is that "The chronic use of marijuana by males can reduce levels of the hormone testosterone."
van_wilder
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This is crazy... a while back there was another thread about smoking weed and it was surprising to me how many members here (and a lot of vets with great physiques) smoke weed... i expected the thread starter to get flamed, but it turned out to be the opposite in that case... i think this topic has been done to death and a lot of the smokers are done discussing it...I smoke just before my last meal before bed once i've gotten all of my work done for the day, helps me eat and relax to get some sleep. My good buddy on the other hand is a wake-n-baker... i'm impressed when he can dress himself and find his car keys.
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you people who bag on weed crack my shit up....YOUR ON FUCKING ROIDS people....A FELONY.....give me a fucking break roids and weed are both illegle drugs.....you can abuse weed just like you can abuse roids.....its all in control of the person administering the drugs....and first of all every one went to the moral issue why dont you guys try answering the dudes question..... sense none of you knuckle heads did I will
there is not really a effect on testosterone however i have heard it ups your estrogen slightly...Hope this finnaly answers your question..
BIC
there is not really a effect on testosterone however i have heard it ups your estrogen slightly...Hope this finnaly answers your question..
BIC
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