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Small Rant about Beer.

mbcrump

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I am pretty surprised by the guys in the gym, saying they down a few beers after lifting. Or they drink on the weekend with the football games. I've never really understood why people spend all the time lifting, exercising to completely destroy their gains by alcohol. I've tried explaining to them that drinking and weight lifting / training does not mix but they don't listen. Does anyone here drink beer still? I personally don't want to put anything in my body thats is filled with toxins/empty calories. I do have a cheat meal once a week, but it has never consisted of alcohol.
 
I used to drink beer all the time now if i drink on the weekends its usually bacardi 151 and diet coke or orange juice. Im still in college so free beer is everywhere so its hard to resist but I manage
 
jay1 said:
I still drink on the weekends. I dont compete so why not??
I still drink just not as much or as often as i did when i was younger. I also dont drink on a night that im goin to the gym the next day, save it for when i have a day of usually fri or sat night.
 
mbcrump said:
Does anyone here drink beer still?
On occasion a frosty Newcastle or Guinness. Lately it's been red wine (for the properties of it) when I've wanted a drink with dinner or something like that.

I did notice one time I had more than just a glass... bout a whole bottle of wine, I woke up (no headache or anything) was sore as HELL... i was like wtf?!

I blame it on the lack of protein synthesis that I missed out on whist sleeping with the alcohol in me.... I had never noticed that before (when I was in my "drinking days"... although I didn't lift during those years).
 
i drink pretty much every weekend...i just try and make up for it the next day by hitting the treadmill....if that doesn't happen then oh well. i know i will not hit 6%bf this way...but 8% is achieveable. i'll prob kick the drinking for a few months after the holidays and then try to hit 6%....but i know drinking once a week that's not possible

it's all about you and your goals...you can't get away with it if your goal is to have paper tight skin and rippiling veins...
 
mbcrump said:
I am pretty surprised by the guys in the gym, saying they down a few beers after lifting. Or they drink on the weekend with the football games. I've never really understood why people spend all the time lifting, exercising to completely destroy their gains by alcohol. I've tried explaining to them that drinking and weight lifting / training does not mix but they don't listen. Does anyone here drink beer still? I personally don't want to put anything in my body thats is filled with toxins/empty calories. I do have a cheat meal once a week, but it has never consisted of alcohol.

You only live life once man, have a little fun and don't be so uptight about it. Nor does alchohol "completely destroy your gains" ... If you can't have a good cold beer, watch your favorite pro team on sunday, then you're a midget.
 
I used to rent to this guy who was a bodybuilder and ever weekend this guy would down beers and eat bags and bags of chips... He was ripped like crazy. I also worked out with him and he would not need to do much heavy lifting to get this cut.
 
blueta2 said:
I used to rent to this guy who was a bodybuilder and ever weekend this guy would down beers and eat bags and bags of chips... He was ripped like crazy. I also worked out with him and he would not need to do much heavy lifting to get this cut.

He wins the genetics game.
 
blueta2 said:
yep...we don't like ppl like this right?..haha!
Shit, to be honest i have been known to drink while working out on occasion. Most of my bench PRs have come this way. I guess the liquid courage takes all the mental aspects out of missing the lift.
 
niasdaddy2005 said:
Shit, to be honest i have been known to drink while working out on occasion. Most of my bench PRs have come this way. I guess the liquid courage takes all the mental aspects out of missing the lift.

:confused: ...........
 
niasdaddy2005 said:
Shit, to be honest i have been known to drink while working out on occasion. Most of my bench PRs have come this way. I guess the liquid courage takes all the mental aspects out of missing the lift.

You must not be lifting much weight -
 
ZGzaZ said:
You only live life once man, have a little fun and don't be so uptight about it. Nor does alchohol "completely destroy your gains" ... If you can't have a good cold beer, watch your favorite pro team on sunday, then you're a midget.

Its really all about what you want from your training. I admit I'm pretty hardcore about diet, because I've always believe diet is the MOST important thing in your training. 2nd being exercise and 3rd being supplementation. :Chef: I could easily have 3,4,5 beers on weekends, but I don't do it because its not beneficial to reaching my goal. If you don't have any real goals and just goto the gym to "check out chicks" then drink all the beer you want. :evil: and btw, next time read up before you says alcohol will not destroy your gains. Here's a link that you should read.

http://www.ironmagazine.com/article204.html
 
bro...good for you if you don't drink. most people have a few beers or drinks from time to time...b/c well...they're normal.

and the only serious concern here is missing your meals the next day, storing some extra cals and dehyrdation. as far as protein synthesis is concerned unless your excessively drinking...which i'm sure no one on this board does...i don't think it's a problem.

most people here are serious about there training otherwise they wouldn't be on this board...but they are also human and like to enjoy life sometimes...maybe you have no friends and have no one to drink with...who knows...if your not competeing...a few beers are fine. don't kill yourself over a few drinks now and again man...your gonna be 50 and be like "awe man...i wish i would have hung out and had more fun when i was younger."
 
mbcrump said:
Its really all about what you want from your training. I admit I'm pretty hardcore about diet, because I've always believe diet is the MOST important thing in your training. 2nd being exercise and 3rd being supplementation. :Chef: I could easily have 3,4,5 beers on weekends, but I don't do it because its not beneficial to reaching my goal. If you don't have any real goals and just goto the gym to "check out chicks" then drink all the beer you want. :evil: and btw, next time read up before you says alcohol will not destroy your gains. Here's a link that you should read.

http://www.ironmagazine.com/article204.html

Or if you want to have absolutely no life, and be a up-tight know it all all your life and base EVERYTHING around training, you can do that, but you're still gonna be old and skinny one day, so who cares? Btw, youre quote was people "completely destroy their gains by alcohol." I know many guys who drink every weekend, and a lot of them during the week and still get great gains. Hell, Arnold was known for drinking a lot during training, go tell him it was destroying his gains and get slapped in the face.
 
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al420 said:
You must not be lifting much weight -
Nothing on a world class level, but am closing in on 2x bodyweight bench. In 3 months i will have the 123rd place all time bench press in the WABDL at 165lbs, and had i not bulked would have made top 100 at 148lbs.
 
mbcrump said:
I am pretty surprised by the guys in the gym, saying they down a few beers after lifting. Or they drink on the weekend with the football games. I've never really understood why people spend all the time lifting, exercising to completely destroy their gains by alcohol. I've tried explaining to them that drinking and weight lifting / training does not mix but they don't listen. Does anyone here drink beer still? I personally don't want to put anything in my body thats is filled with toxins/empty calories. I do have a cheat meal once a week, but it has never consisted of alcohol.
If your goal is fat loss, and it's a given you are not the spawn of Wonder Woman & Hulk, THEN drinking post workout, ESP beer (or WINE) is a NO NO. Those two especially.

crump I cut out booze while cutting & in the beginning reserved it for one meal once a week (my cheat meal) THEN cut it out completely for a goal.
I don't need to drink to have a good time or a 'life' ...

I admire your dedication b/c I was once in that mindset ...but it's not the mindset everyone has.

If you want better sources on how alcohol effects the bod check these out

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=469957&highlight=alcohol
 
al420 said:
You must not be lifting much weight -
And in the future show a little intelligence and dont make comments of which you know nothing about. You know the old saying its better to not say anything and be thought a fool is better than opening it and confirming that you are.
 
niasdaddy2005 said:
And in the future show a little intelligence and dont make comments of which you know nothing about. You know the old saying its better to not say anything and be thought a fool is better than opening it and confirming that you are.
Congrats on YOUR accomplishments with the weights.

I would expect to hear some backlash if you say you lift while drinking alcohol.
 
Thanks for the support bunny, its actually pretty normal for people to slam me on my views on this, which i don't understand. So far in this thread, i've been called a midget, not normal, told i don't have friends, don't have no one to drink with, having no life, a uptight know it all, and am going to be old and skinny. Why? I can't tell you. Its the same stuff I get in the gym. I personally don't care what other people do, of course its up to them and its their body. Anyways, as far as Arnold goes, he was a heavy steroid user and i'm pretty sure that helps his gains. =) Anyways, good night and peace to all.
 
*Bunny* said:
Congrats on YOUR accomplishments with the weights.

I would expect to hear some backlash if you say you lift while drinking alcohol.
Backlash is fine and completely understandable, but belittling my accomplishments with an uneducated response like " you must not be using much weight" isnt.
 
Hmm..so youre telling me your bodys protein synthesis, dehydration factors, excess wasted calories, and depletion of vitamins and minerals caused by alchohol have absolutely no effect when taking steroids? not sure it works like that buddy. Maybe their just not as negative as you'd like to think.
 
al420 said:
What she said -

2x bodyweight is impressive for sure - drinking at the gym is not.
Not trying to impress unlike you i am just stating the facts.
 
Sorry bro - but nothing about telling a newbie that drinking beer helps you reach PR's is a good idea. Who was trying to "impress" people w/ their moronic post? You were.

Now get back to starting posts like "Is there a cure for the want what I cant have syndrome?"

I think the answer is drinking beer while lifting - lol
 
al420 said:
Sorry bro - but nothing about telling a newbie that drinking beer helps you reach PR's is a good idea. Who was trying to "impress" people w/ their moronic post? You were.

Now get back to starting posts like "Is there a cure for the want what I cant have syndrome?"

I think the answer is drinking beer while lifting - lol
Bro just looked at your profile what exactly are your accomplishments that make your word better, hopefully not that back shot. I do not think that drinking at the gym is right as it looks and is bad. However what i do at my home gym on pr day is completly different. How many gyms actually even allow alcohol?
 
Thanks for attempting to rip my pics. WHere are yours? Oh yeah, none to speak of.......


Anyway bro - I am not trying to argue w/ you. It's simple - you said alcohol was a good idea and I totally disagree as do almost 100% of the real lifters on this site. If it works for you great, but for most is as about as bad of an idea as you could have.

I'm done here - Beer is Bad for you.
 
al420 said:
Thanks for attempting to rip my pics. WHere are yours? Oh yeah, none to speak of.......


Anyway bro - I am not trying to argue w/ you. It's simple - you said alcohol was a good idea and I totally disagree as do almost 100% of the real lifters on this site. If it works for you great, but for most is as about as bad of an idea as you could have.

I'm done here - Beer is Bad for you.
You are right i apologize for knocking your pic should have been more adult about it, but i think the scare factor about drinking and lifting was a little exaggerated. Heavy drinking-Bad, drinking in moderation IMO not as harmful as some made it sound.
 
You just have to balance your goals in life. I like to lift. I like to drink. So I do both. I am aware alcohol hinders recovery and plan my weekends accordingly.
 
I like squating naked while trying to balance a beer on my head. I also like farm animals. Is that so wrong?
 
FFQuads said:
I like squating naked while trying to balance a beer on my head. I also like farm animals. Is that so wrong?
The beer balancing while squatting now thats impressive. This alcoholic puts his beer down and claps for you.
 
A drink now and then not bad for me.A few drinks everday and my weights go down[lifting and body]. Do what works for you and post up what you want but I think we could all learn something.
 
jpt said:
HAAAAAAA!!! THANKS BRO...I JUST SPIT OUT MY OJ ON MY LAP TOP! I'LL BE SENDING YOU A BILL SON!
bro... I told you to wrap that damn thing in a trash bag, ghetto style. So that didn't happen again :rolleyes:
 
I can't really speak on wine because I haven't researched it enough to weigh the pros and the cons. But I can speak intelligently about beer.

I don't think beer is the devil. Personally, I'll have beer 6 times a year: Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years, Super Bowl, 4th of July and Easter. I do this because these are days of celebration and I can bend the rules a little bit.

Any other time is mostly a no-no. And it's not because of the nutrition or lackof.

Beers are tasty and therein lies the problem. Like anything else tasty, it's very hard to be training and say you'll have just one. That's like eating clean all day and saying you'll have just a bite of a brownie. All you're really doing is setting yourself up for failure because one may lead to two, may lead to six, and it often does.

In general health, binge drinking is terrible. But most people accept that.

So the main dispute people seem to struggle with is having one beer with dinner or while watching the game. In terms of a long and lasting life, one beer a day won't kill you and recent studies prove it may be beneficial for your heart. [With dark beers, Bud Light doesn't count. Lol.] It's really a personal decision wether you have a beer with dinner or shun the thought.

One beer a day is not going to make you fat or force your benches to fall. But drinking a beer everyday might make your gains take twice as long. If you're lifting for general health, then you might not mind the inconvenience.
 
ZGzaZ said:
You only live life once man, have a little fun and don't be so uptight about it. Nor does alchohol "completely destroy your gains" ... If you can't have a good cold beer, watch your favorite pro team on sunday, then you're a midget.

:FRlol:

most people that serious about bodybuilding will know their "limits" on alcohol consumption. it took me 2 relationships, a band, lots of friends and a relocation to realize that 1 beer for me turns into 20 and a very bad attitude. not to mention the toxicity, as far as protein synthesis, etc....like sarge said....

that is why if i decide to go meet up with the crew at the bar (which is rare), i don't go until about 1am. that gives me an hour to think about what i'm doing..... :)

so i think it differs person to person

my uncle is an alcoholic in its strictest definition (beer is also "food", etc) and he is the skinniest person i know.....all skin and bones and zero (that is 0) muscle. and i mean ribs popping out man.... i've seen pictures of him before he sank and he was well-built. go figure.
 
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