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The_Eviscerator
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I am sorry, but Bradshaw vs. Eddie for the title? WTF? They need a serious talent infusion on Smack Down.
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Delinquent
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Yep they need to give Cena the push. Cena would make a a better champ than Eddie even though Eddie has been in the Biz for a long time and has earned it. Cena has massive crowd appeal and seems to have everything except the "vet" status.
The_Eviscerator
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Delinquent said:
I have no problem with Eddie as champ, Eddie deserves it. He is one of the best. I just think the whole 2 brands is lacking. Also, RVD needs a serious push. Bring Bill Alphonso back give him a manager... whatever. His in ring skills speak for themselves.
Cena is definitely an up and comer, but they are dropping the ball on some of these guys big time.
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zxe003 said:
Eddie is a true performer. If he dropped that stupid exaggerated accent and went back to the Eddie in WCW, he would be cooler in my book. Cena definitely is the future. But they need to build more stars. It seems like the roster is packed on RAW. Smackdown is just weak as hell.
Delinquent
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that is why i got such a kick and enjoyment when HHH was traded to Smackdown. I thought that would revive Smackdown some but alas I guess he wanted t stay on RAW.
Anybody know why they gave Shelton such a HUGE push? He has the wrestlin skills but his mic skills suck ass.
Anybody know why they gave Shelton such a HUGE push? He has the wrestlin skills but his mic skills suck ass.
The_Eviscerator
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Delinquent said:
Shelton can wrestle his ass off... His mic skills aren't that bad. No worse than Benoit. I think they realize that they need to build some new names or they are fucked. Benjamin has the ring skills to be a future star. I think he will grow into the mic.
powerforward
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they just need to go ahead and make smackdown the wcw show and raw the wwe show. have real brand seperation and have the respective champions go at it at the monthly ppv.
and as far as some of the young guys go, they need to bring back managers and valets to help the young guys until they can handle the mic.
and as far as some of the young guys go, they need to bring back managers and valets to help the young guys until they can handle the mic.
avenirup
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The_Eviscerator said:
Agreed. I think the whole WWE is weak as hell right now. The biggest news this week is that Ted Turner may get back into the wrestling biz when his non compete expires next year. Word has it he has reached out to Austin, Goldberg, Lesner, Hogan, Nash, Hall and a few others. Do not be surprised to see WWE stars not renewing their contracts when they expire. Rumors are going around Turner is planning something big and may have been planning this since the end of last year. A lot of people are saying that Austin and Goldberg were contacted already and that is why they did not come to terms with WWE. I guess we will see. It would probably be the best thing to happen to pro wrestling in a long time. WWE needs competition. When McMahon is fighting for his life, he improves his product-when he has a monopoly, he seems to just put anything on TV.
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avenirup said:
I hope you are right. With the TNA talent and the free agents that WWE lets go, there is enough wrestlers to have a very competitive promotion.
strongsmartsexy
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avenirup said:
HOT DAMN!!!
Now THAT could make wrestling interesting again. Vince screwed the pooch when he failed at buying that organization and then failing to capitalize on the strength of having real competition. For such a brilliant mind, he sure has blown some major opportunities.
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strongsmartsexy said:
The problem with Vince is that he could not accept the fact that he won... even after he won. He owns WCW. He had their wrestlers. What is the first thing he did? He had Booker T get demoralized and reduced to a mid carder immediately. He made the WCW wrestlers look weak and insignificant. The only reason I can see for him to do this is to stroke his own ego. It really made no sense. He had the opportunity to really build on the WCW name and keep the WCW fans and the WWE fans and he fucking blew it. I liked WCW in its heyday. I liked the more realistic story lines. I loved the emphasis on the Cruiser Weights. I am sure there were a lot of fans that left when they knew they were only getting one style of wrestling: WWE Bigger is Better, Cruiserweights don't deserve TV time, sleazefest.
avenirup
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The_Eviscerator said:
Vince bought WCW for its video library and because of his ego. He bought WCW for about 2.5 million dollars, which is pretty embarrassing considering how much Turner/Aol/Time Warner spent on the business. He got the deal because Turner was out of the picture and the then "higher ups" in AOL/Time Warner didn't want wrestling on their networks (TNT & TBS). The WWE wanted to put together a huge library of wrestling footage and put that footage on DVDs and via their website thru an on demand type service (which should debut sometime this year) where people would pay a certain price per month to join and they could watch all of the WWE's library footage (which at this point is rumored to be around 70,000 hours). The 70,000 hours includes footage from WWE, WCW and they also purchased all footage from ECW, NWA, AWA, Mid-South, World Class and Georgia Championship. So they pretty much own almost ever major wrestling angle that happened in the last 100 years. That means big money for them. They could have spent a little money and continued WCW vs WWE but at that time WCW was really weak and they only got wrestlers who did not have garuanteed contracts (Booker T and DDP actually chose the sign with WWE for less money and not sit home and get paid like Hogan, Nash, Hall, Misterio, Steiner, Goldberg and most of the other "big" WCW stars). He did not have another cable network to put a WCW show on and he didn't want to spend money on it either. Most people say Vince figured that everyone watching WCW would just start watching WWE. What he forgot is that people would flip back and forth from one show to the other and that is why each show had respectable ratings (WWE once did an 8.0 on the USA Network in 1999, which is just huge--compare that now to the average of 3.7), but it wasn't like 3 million would watch WCW and another 3 million would watch WWE, it was that same 3 million (give or take a few) that watched both shows. Plus the fact that Vince's storyline were pretty bad didn't help the situation. I agree with you that Vince screwed up in making something big out of that, as he did with the NWO angle in 2002 and several other things. But from where he sits, he didn't. He bought WCW very cheap (which means in his mind he beat Ted Turner, ie the guy who almost put him out of business) and will no doubt make that money back in broadband and DVD sales and he got a pretty good buy rate for the WWE vs WCW vs ECW Invasion PPV in 2001. So it was bad for us but good for Vince. As I have said in previous posts, things are not going to get better until he gets some real competition. Hopefully that comes sooner than later.
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strongsmartsexy
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avenirup said:
This is EXACTLY the point! If you take away the fan base, which is what happened when he dropped the ball he's still struggling. Losing sight of the fact that Teddy boy was not his enemy, but his own lame angles showed on TV.
He had a HUGE opportunity with what he had to create his own competition and angles from that. Oh well, water under the bridge now.
GatheringFlock
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Eddy G isn't champ material? Now thats a load of bullshit!
Eddy is probably the best all around performer in WWE period! He's defeated Lesnar, Angle and even Benoit. Eddy is everything a champ should be. He's what professional wrestling is all about. Whoever said Cena would make a better champ over Eddy is insane. He's not even on Guerrero's level in my opinion.
Eddy is probably the best all around performer in WWE period! He's defeated Lesnar, Angle and even Benoit. Eddy is everything a champ should be. He's what professional wrestling is all about. Whoever said Cena would make a better champ over Eddy is insane. He's not even on Guerrero's level in my opinion.
wills_got_rythm
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I have to agree with that. John Cena although talented is still an up and comer IMO. I think that Cena would be ok for a while but Eddie is definately better. I think you can get more story lines out of Eddie than Cena. There are more angles to look at. Cena was pushed too soon.
