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Ozz2001

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I sit everyday and read people posting i am not gaining this and why? Its training people,all the juice in the world wont work if your not training right! Period..So heres some good reading that will help grow mass. This is kind of what ive been doing but my workout is judged by what works for my body.
Clearly if you use the fast-twitch and slow twitch you do get maxium gains.
Thanks to the author for sharing.

Shock.shock shock...<---- Key word!

When planning a workout you should first determine the desired training effect and select a repetition bracket to suit that goal.

The following illustrates the typical training effect of various rep ranges (I still haven't worked out how to do lists yet).


1–5 Reps = Maximal strength increases through enhanced neural drive

6–8 Reps = Optimal compromise of maximal strength and hypertrophy gains

9–12 Reps = Maximal hypertrophy gains leading to increased maximal strength

13–20 Reps = Strength-endurance gains and lower hypertrophy gains


Using this table we can see that the best gains in strength are made using very low reps (1 to 5) whilst the best gains in muscle size (hypertrophy) are made using medium to high reps (6 to 12).

The weight you lift will be dictated by the rep range you choose. If you are looking to gain muscle size you would select a weight that allowed you to perform between 6 and 12 reps. If you can only complete 3 reps the weight is too heavy. If you can do more than the chosen number of reps, the weight is too light.

In addition to the above it should be noted that the fibers in your muscles are "typed" according to their oxidative capacities and how fast they fatigue. In simplistic terms you have slow twitch fibers (type-I) and fast twitch fibers (type-II). Fast twitch fibers respond best to low-rep training whilst slow twitch fibers respond better to high-rep training.

Therefore, you should periodically juggle low-rep training, intermediate-rep training, and high-rep training to make the best progress.


A Scientific Look at Sets

A set is a group of consecutive reps. There are a number of factors to consider in determining how many sets to include in a workout; assuming that nutrition and rest are in check the most important factors are as follows.

1. Number of reps selected

It is generally accepted that there is minimum amount of time a muscle must be stimulated for maximum size and strength gains. Conversely there is a maximum amount of time a muscle can be stimulated before overtraining sets in. Basically the more reps per set you perform the lower the number of work sets you should perform and vice versa.

2. Number of exercises per training session

The more exercises you perform per muscle part, the fewer sets you need to achieve an optimal training effect for each exercise.

3. Muscle size

The number of sets performed should be proportionate to the size of the muscle mass trained. You would therefore expect to use more sets when training larger muscle groups than you would with smaller muscle groups. In direct conflict with this is the fact that smaller muscle groups recover more quickly than larger groups; it should be remembered that many smaller muscle groups are worked when training larger muscle groups e.g. biceps when training back.

4. Training level

One or two sets per exercise are usually enough for beginners whilst experienced trainees will often require increased volume.

5. Muscle Composition

Muscles that are inherently fast-twitch respond best to more sets. Muscles that are inherently slow-twitch respond best to fewer sets.
 
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Ozz2001 said:
I sit everyday and read people posting i am not gaining this and why? Its training people,all the juice in the world wont work if your not training right! Period..So heres some good reading that will help grow mass. This is kind of what ive been doing but my workout is judged by what works for my body.
Clearly if you use the fast-twitch and slow twitch you do get maxium gains.
Thanks to the author for sharing.

Shock.shock shock...<---- Key word!

When planning a workout you should first determine the desired training effect and select a repetition bracket to suit that goal.

The following illustrates the typical training effect of various rep ranges (I still haven't worked out how to do lists yet).


1–5 Reps = Maximal strength increases through enhanced neural drive

6–8 Reps = Optimal compromise of maximal strength and hypertrophy gains

9–12 Reps = Maximal hypertrophy gains leading to increased maximal strength

13–20 Reps = Strength-endurance gains and lower hypertrophy gains


Using this table we can see that the best gains in strength are made using very low reps (1 to 5) whilst the best gains in muscle size (hypertrophy) are made using medium to high reps (6 to 12).

The weight you lift will be dictated by the rep range you choose. If you are looking to gain muscle size you would select a weight that allowed you to perform between 6 and 12 reps. If you can only complete 3 reps the weight is too heavy. If you can do more than the chosen number of reps, the weight is too light.

In addition to the above it should be noted that the fibers in your muscles are "typed" according to their oxidative capacities and how fast they fatigue. In simplistic terms you have slow twitch fibers (type-I) and fast twitch fibers (type-II). Fast twitch fibers respond best to low-rep training whilst slow twitch fibers respond better to high-rep training.

Therefore, you should periodically juggle low-rep training, intermediate-rep training, and high-rep training to make the best progress.


A Scientific Look at Sets

A set is a group of consecutive reps. There are a number of factors to consider in determining how many sets to include in a workout; assuming that nutrition and rest are in check the most important factors are as follows.

1. Number of reps selected

It is generally accepted that there is minimum amount of time a muscle must be stimulated for maximum size and strength gains. Conversely there is a maximum amount of time a muscle can be stimulated before overtraining sets in. Basically the more reps per set you perform the lower the number of work sets you should perform and vice versa.

2. Number of exercises per training session

The more exercises you perform per muscle part, the fewer sets you need to achieve an optimal training effect for each exercise.

3. Muscle size

The number of sets performed should be proportionate to the size of the muscle mass trained. You would therefore expect to use more sets when training larger muscle groups than you would with smaller muscle groups. In direct conflict with this is the fact that smaller muscle groups recover more quickly than larger groups; it should be remembered that many smaller muscle groups are worked when training larger muscle groups e.g. biceps when training back.

4. Training level

One or two sets per exercise are usually enough for beginners whilst experienced trainees will often require increased volume.

5. Muscle Composition

Muscles that are inherently fast-twitch respond best to more sets. Muscles that are inherently slow-twitch respond best to fewer sets.


I would partially agree. Fully agree with the training techniques. For me dieting is more important than lifting. Combining the right diet with the right workout is most beneficial. Sleep is also a huge part of the equation.
 
AWSOME POST MAN.
I often get luaghed at or people make weird grins at me like "whats he doing"
They sling the ez curl as fast as they can using every body part like shoulders, forarms,lower back like they are in a race.I now use a lower weight and a higher range for biceps sets of 8-12 no jerking no wagging my ass ,I'm flat agianst the wall elbows locked with only 70lbs doing 3 sets of 12 and my arms have gotten much more devloped.I use the 3 seconds up 3 seconds down eccentric and concentric full focused on biceps thats means each set takes me 48 seconds to 60 seconds a full minute. The other guys are done at 20 seconds means I worked out 3 times as hard as them becuase the muscle was stressed 3 times longer .

Id like to see some mention about your "hang time" how many seconds you lower and how many seconds you raise the weight.
 
Yep. Agreed. Totally. Getting huge and ripped is all in busting your balls in the gym. Watch Lou Ferrigno in Pumping Iron when he's doing those straight bar curls and the guy keeps handing him bars for a drop set. If you don't have that look of pain and anguish on your face at all times in the gym, you're wasting good gear and time.
 
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