Sirius tops XM in new subscribers; Stern to get $220 million early stock payout

[BrothaBill]

awesome bill! I own XM stock, not Sirius. It's a no brainer, first mover advantage, more/better deals with car manufacturers, almost twice as many subscribers, much closer to profitability, and right now the market values Sirius at $8.7 billion versus XM valued at $6.2 billion?! Crazy. Buy a subscription Bill, my stock will thank you!

I'll tell ya what though, I'm scared of those folks at Sirius. Don't wanna mess with Stern and Mel Karmazin. Stern will actually over time move to a producer role, bringing new talent in. He has two channels to himself, so 48 hours or so of programming per day. Crazy stuff Billy Boy!!!

lol, you should stick with mutual funds and leave the betting for the racetrack.

I hear how amazing Karmazin was when Don Imus kept talking about how great of a manager he was and how he purchased the stock b/c of that.

Sirius though was get in on the ride up and bail before you get to the top of the rollercoaster's first drop. Anything past that is just an amusement ride coming to an end

 

[bran987]

I'll mark this thread for future reference on my stock picking. I should make a compilation of my long term buy & hold picks and the returns on this board.

I'm a real estate guy though, you're right. Just a M-O-R-O-N on some dumb ass Inteernet chat type board from Texas, Billy Boy! Yeeeeeeeeeee Haw!!!!!! It's fuckin' Saturday night let's gett stoopid!

 

[fistfullofsteel]

it's funny how he is always talking about other people's money and how he bugs his guests about how much money they make. i wonder if he is still going to talk about how leno and letterman make silly money that they don't deserve.

 

[SoreArms]

I've been curious about the subscription rate since he went off terrestrial radio.

People who hate him are alwasy talking about how overrated and over the hill he is, and surely his fan base must be dropping, but year after year he was still #1 in almost any market and dimportant demographic. Before the Stern signing, I was thinking of XM becasue they have MLB, but I am willing to overlook that and sign up with sirius just for Howard. Bought my brother a radio and subscription for christmas will be buying one for myself soon. One thing's for sure though, my initial subscription is based solely on Howard. How long I maintain the subscription will based on how satisfied I am with the show and Sirius overall. Raw Dog, the other commedy channel and the sports talk channels do rock though.

 

[BrothaBill]

I'll mark this thread for future reference on my stock picking. I should make a compilation of my long term buy & hold picks and the returns on this board.

I'm a real estate guy though, you're right. Just a M-O-R-O-N on some dumb ass Inteernet chat type board from Texas, Billy Boy! Yeeeeeeeeeee Haw!!!!!! It's fuckin' Saturday night let's gett stoopid!

Lol, I dont think you are a moron, you are young you can afford to be aggressive with stock picking and its good practice to understanding business and well being able to talk stocks helps a person's career on different levels showing that you are able to understand complex issues and explain them to others, better to give advice that have to be given it.

I didnt know you were from texas, I heard only steers and queers come from Texas

Seriously though, stocks are just equities as are real estate holdings. They fluctuate up or down based on demand with no fixed value. They enjoy a higher rate of return but thats b/c of the risks involved. In the great stock market crash of 1929 people that had their money in fixed assets were able to buy all of the land around Portland here and other major cities and locations. Thats what people did.

Given the turbulent times and uncertainty of terrorism, war, nuclear ambitions and natural disasters having a portfolio exclusive to equities is not a healthy financial balance.

Im not predicting a major crash but you can never predict the future or the whims of the market.

"Anyone who bought stocks in mid-1929 and held on to them saw most of his adult life pass by before getting back to even."—Richard M. Salsman

 

[bran987]

I've been curious about the subscription rate since he went off terrestrial radio.

People who hate him are alwasy talking about how overrated and over the hill he is, and surely his fan base must be dropping, but year after year he was still #1 in almost any market and dimportant demographic. Before the Stern signing, I was thinking of XM becasue they have MLB, but I am willing to overlook that and sign up with sirius just for Howard. Bought my brother a radio and subscription for christmas will be buying one for myself soon. One thing's for sure though, my initial subscription is based solely on Howard. How long I maintain the subscription will based on how satisfied I am with the show and Sirius overall. Raw Dog, the other commedy channel and the sports talk channels do rock though.

Sorearms, you get a month free if you buy a year subscrip, so it's actually a bit cheaper But you're mistaken on one thing... people don't buy sirius just for howard stern, so you must be confused on why you are buying it??????! Or maybe you're not! Maybe that makes TWO people who are buying it for the washed up, immature, old fogey of a bastard that is Howard Stern!

lololol just fucking with you billy!

lots of insight in what you posted bill. I've tried writing to this board extensively on the value of any investment, which is simply the expected future cash flows discounted back to present value. you're right about equities returning a higher rate on average due to their higher risk, the higher risk represented in a phenemon called the "discount rate" which is different for each investor.

I believe the present value of the expected future cash flows of xm satellite radio to be greater than 6.2 billion dollars

In fact you should check out my latest thread on the success & wealth board, simply a pasting of a 1999 speech by this guy, Warren Buffett. In the article he speaks of investments in a philosophical manner suited to your tastes.

 

[BrothaBill]

Sorearms, you get a month free if you buy a year subscrip, so it's actually a bit cheaper But you're mistaken on one thing... people don't buy sirius just for howard stern, so you must be confused on why you are buying it??????! Or maybe you're not! Maybe that makes TWO people who are buying it for the washed up, immature, old fogey of a bastard that is Howard Stern!

lololol just fucking with you billy!

lots of insight in what you posted bill. I've tried writing to this board extensively on the value of any investment, which is simply the expected future cash flows discounted back to present value. you're right about equities returning a higher rate on average due to their higher risk, the higher risk represented in a phenemon called the "discount rate" which is different for each investor.

I believe the present value of the expected future cash flows of xm satellite rader to be greater than 6.2 billion dollars

In fact you should check out my latest thread on the success & wealth board, simply a pasting of a 1999 speech by this guy, Warren Buffett. In the article he speaks of investments in a philosophical manner suited to your tastes.

Im pretty sure I know who Buffet is smartholio lol. I had a series seven license and a registered investment advisor/financial advisor before going back to study medicine ten years ago.

I think its just a different philosophy in terms of gaining wealth, mine being more conservative approach to building a financial plan to take advantage of taxes and risk.
Most people dont have the finances to have an effective and diverse enough stock portfolio to make it safe enough from putting all of their eggs in one basket.
They are basically building their own mutual fund so I usually would defer to an experienced money manager.

Not to knock it though, I know alot of people that like the excitement of stocks and such and learning and studying them and playing the game. I know more about stocks than I do football but I think they are similar. Picking a stock to go up or down is like picking red or black on a roulette table.

I had a good friend that made a fucking shitload on a stock pick, he hinted at it being around 300,000$ but wouldnt say but bought a new house and cars. That shit drives me nuts so hope you get lucky like that.

Me, Ill stick to protecting and growing and maximizing income I make through a more conservative pyramid approach making sure there is a base and middle and if there is enough left over to play with then I will dabble in certain stocks

 

[bran987]

Im pretty sure I know who Buffet is smartholio lol. I had a series seven license and a registered investment advisor/financial advisor before going back to study medicine ten years ago.

I think its just a different philosophy in terms of gaining wealth, mine being more conservative approach to building a financial plan to take advantage of taxes and risk.
Most people dont have the finances to have an effective and diverse enough stock portfolio to make it safe enough from putting all of their eggs in one basket.
They are basically building their own mutual fund so I usually would defer to an experienced money manager.

Not to knock it though, I know alot of people that like the excitement of stocks and such and learning and studying them and playing the game. I know more about stocks than I do football but I think they are similar. Picking a stock to go up or down is like picking red or black on a roulette table.

I had a good friend that made a fucking shitload on a stock pick, he hinted at it being around 300,000$ but wouldnt say but bought a new house and cars. That shit drives me nuts so hope you get lucky like that.

Me, Ill stick to protecting and growing and maximizing income I make through a more conservative pyramid approach making sure there is a base and middle and if there is enough left over to play with then I will dabble in certain stocks

eh don't assume too much. I'm less than 20% in stocks.
I didn't know you were so well versed bud. satellite stocks are out of my usual forte though, I frown on companies that don't pay dividends.

Buffett has two t's though you fuckin' all star you!

alright guys been fun I gotta go to my friend's fuckin' birthday party now.

 

[seizer]

eh don't assume too much. I'm less than 20% in stocks.
I didn't know you were so well versed bud. satellite stocks are out of my usual forte though, I frown on companies that don't pay dividends.

Buffett has two t's though you fuckin' all star you!

alright guys been fun I gotta go to my friend's fuckin' birthday party now.

Dont forget to put on your party hat and collect your goodie-bag at the end of the night (10 pm unless it's a sleep over).

 

[BrothaBill]

eh don't assume too much. I'm less than 20% in stocks.
I didn't know you were so well versed bud. satellite stocks are out of my usual forte though, I frown on companies that don't pay dividends.

Buffett has two t's though you fuckin' all star you!

alright guys been fun I gotta go to my friend's fuckin' birthday party now.

lol, so does Jimmy Buffett, perhaps I was just fargin hungry b/c I havent had carbs since last year

I think its fun sometimes but other times I think some people make alot of mistakes in building a financial plan, of course I have no clue what your financial plan looks like so not assuming. Just talking shop

Have fun and dont drink and drive