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Single Shot 8 wk Cycle?...Beginner

silverskyline

silverskyline

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Good morning Gents, Ok so this is my first cycle and I have been doing what reserch I can. What I have read here has been very informative thus far so I joined...thanks!

Ok so... I would like to stack but not sure I can right now with my resources.

I would like to do a simple Deca 300 mg a week for 8 weeks shot with about 20 mg Danabol 4 times a day 5mg a sitting. However I am not sure I can get my hands on andy Danabol.

I am about 172 (my largest ever was 185 with about 13 percent), I am 5'11. I will be sure to post my results at the end of Feb as I am starting today.

My deal here is if I can only hit the Deca 200 or 300 mg a week for 8 weeks with no stack is it ever worth my time? I have yet to see anyone post any thing with just the shot and nothing more.

Thanks! Silver

Oh P.S. I also used to use Anabolic Aminos, Creatine, Glutamine, Protein, NO2, Volumizer (with taurine and argine) etc blah blah. Should I even continue this or just eat like a mad man with shakes?
 
silverskyline said:
Good morning Gents, Ok so this is my first cycle and I have been doing what reserch I can. What I have read here has been very informative thus far so I joined...thanks!

Ok so... I would like to stack but not sure I can right now with my resources.

I would like to do a simple Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - 300 mg a week for 8 weeks shot with about 20 mg Danabol 4 times a day 5mg a sitting. However I am not sure I can get my hands on andy Danabol.

I am about 172 (my largest ever was 185 with about 13 percent), I am 5'11. I will be sure to post my results at the end of Feb as I am starting today.

My deal here is if I can only hit the Deca 200 or 300 mg a week for 8 weeks with no stack is it ever worth my time? I have yet to see anyone post any thing with just the shot and nothing more.

Thanks! Silver

Oh P.S. I also used to use Anabolic Aminos, Creatine, Glutamine, Protein, NO2, Volumizer (with taurine and argine) etc blah blah. Should I even continue this or just eat like a mad man with shakes?
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Did your research lead you to the conclusion that Deka is not a very good compound for a first timer, let alone to be run without test?

Ok, so you're asking if it is good, but you are starting today. That doesn't leave you much room to change it if someone like me was to tell you that this would be a terrible first cycle.

Some standard things like your height and weight should include your age and how long you have been training.

Test is the best bet for your first cycle and running it from 250-500mg per week for 8-12 weeks is good.

I am assuming your goals are to bulk? So yes eating like a madman, but at your weight, probably about 4000 cals per day and then after a few weeks adding 500 per day depending on how your gains are coming.

Creatine and protein are fine, but the others may just be wasting your money.What does your diet look like? I mean every meal and the macronutrient and calorie breakdown for each.

You need to just hold on, get this set up right and don't fuck up your hormones tossing in Deka without knowing how to do it properly.
 
DO NOT use deca without test. Just dont do it, ive done it in my younger stupid days. Ran it for 10 weeks all y itself. So my dick didnt get hard for 10 weeks. Use test for your first time. But if your hellbent on using deca then at least run test with it, and at about 2 or 300mg higher than the deca.
 
ST8GRAD...I did read this in one of your other posts, problem is I have very limited resources and it is the only thing available. I don't want to screw my shit up but I'm extreemly limited here....I have been lifting for about 6 years prolly 4 solid and serious and am 24, and have been a personal trainer for about 2 years.

Your prolly right about the waster of money on the sups.

Sorry for my ignorance I have not been able to figure out "test" could either of you explane a little bit more about "running a test" the perscription name or dosage etc? Maybe I can ask my guy if I can get that first then after my down period start the Deca.

Thanks guys!
 
Run either test enan or cyp for 10 weeks at 500mg a week. Pin on Mon and thurs. For pct clomid and nova is just fine for such a cycle.
 
...ADITIONALY, I don't know why but a couple other articles I have read for beginning cycles have actuially said to start with 200 - 400 mg of Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - (no more however) with 15-35mg Dianabol - methandrostenolone - .

I'm sure your all know much more and I will heed your advise over it, but thats where I got my preliminary info from (those articles) also have heard from many sources Deca is prolly the best there is for results and limited side effects.

Thanks agian!
 
First of all, 8 weeks isn;t so short.

Secondly, the guys are right -- deka is a terrible choice.

Thirdly, have you tried the UNLEASHED/BIG BLAST and VIGOR stack? Right there. you might be able to pack on another 10 pounds if your diet and training is one.

Diet and training is always first. Gear adds that extra 10% that you can't get naturally but I get the feeling at 5' 11", 172, you have a ways to go before you hit that point. .
 
Being a "newbiee" myself, I can understand why you would want to try "anything" right away. DON'T.

You need to ask questions and READ A LOT. I am so glad I waited for a few months before I did anything. This is your body we're talking about and if you do something wrong or half assed you could PERMANENTLY hurt yourself. Is that what you really want to do? Is it worth running an 8 week or so cycle just to see what happens?

My advice, (if you want it) is to REALLY read up and understand the logic behind what a lot of guys here are saying.

You're going to do it anyway but at least everyone here is telling you the truth by stating to NOT do it.

I can honestly say I am VERY glad I waited, I would have screwed everything up on my own. It's just not worth it.
 
Sounds good gents, I will make sure to talk to him about that. I just hope I can get my hands on something other than whats on the table the option dosnt come around me much if at all.

any other suggestions of what I should try to get my hands on?

stacks or tests, mg, cycle period. Maybe some good beginning testostrone shot would be enough but what should I been looking for it not deca?

Also I think I might use Clomid as a PTC, it seems well worth the extra cash in the end to retain my results!
Thanks,

Silver,
USMC Sgt,
Personal Trainer.
 
For my 2nd cycle i plan on doing tren and test pro, My weight is 235, i am 30, and 5'11" . My diet will by completly ulterd, by this i mean around 2500 cals with about 2-300g protein low fat low cholesterol meals 3-4 times aday. The searching i have done suggest 100mg of tren a wk and 500 test a wk from putting all the info i got together. I mostly want to get my bench from 405 raw with a pause to about 500 by may-june. Does this look alright or messed up to even fuck with.
 
bencher 500 said:
For my 2nd cycle i plan on doing trenbolone and test pro, My weight is 235, i am 30, and 5'11" . My diet will by completly ulterd, by this i mean around 2500 cals with about 2-300g protein low fat low cholesterol meals 3-4 times aday. The searching i have done suggest 100mg of trenbolone a wk and 500 test a wk from putting all the info i got together. I mostly want to get my bench from 405 raw with a pause to about 500 by may-june. Does this look alright or messed up to even fuck with.
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You need to be eating 6-8 times a day.
 
silverskyline said:
JUMPMASTER...."Run either test enan or testosterone cypionate for 10 weeks at 500mg a week." ...I really appreciate the insight so I don't want to sound like I''m disputing it just want all the facts...

so your just saying with out a stack to the pin stick alone for 10 wks at 500mg...are those just much simpler doses than Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - because if the Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - is 200mg for 8 weeks it seems like the dosage and time would be safer than 500mg at 10 wks. I am assuming "testosterone cypionate" is a much lighter shot as well as I hear they are vitrually the same just which ever is eaiser to get.

Can't say thanks enough guys.
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What he's saying is to shoot twice a week. Once on Monday and again on Thursday 1ml per shot. This is if you are going to run 500mg per week. Each ml of test has 250mg. Personally I liked test e. and have not tried the other.
 
So it seems I am going to try to get testosterone Cypionate/Enanthate M and Th 250mg a shot for 10 wks. Thats all I should need, at least for now?

I honestly want to do something else that deca now that I have the advise!!! At what point do you start using Deca? should I get it for my next cycle?
 
I'll tell you what all these online sites are messin me up, some are saying start with Deca for 200mg 2 a week, some are saying Cypionate/Enanthate, and the one I am reviewing now is saying pill from danabol 5mg a sitting some 42 a week.

I'm just going to ahve to go with Cypionate/Enanthate as you all say.
 
400 mgs of a long estered test per week is a great cycle you could add in 20 mgs dbol for the first 21-30 days however to get something going faster.
 
yep - i highly recommend going for a test only first cycle (8-12 weeks).

this is what was recommended to me, and it was brilliant.

next cycle i moved on to higher dose test and front loaded it with dbol...which worked even better, but it is only because i had a solid base from the first.

the progression goes on as far as combining multiple injectibles and orals into the same cycle to where i am at now.

enjoy the ride, read as much as you can, keep it simple to start and you will be amazed at what happens......albeit you keep diet in check
 
sky - you get the noob of the year award. Seriously. You read, did research, asked questions, LISTENED, changed, etc. Very nice. There's some great bros here with terrific advice.

Enjoy your cycle.
 
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