single cycle fat loss?

[rotoryrobert]

I was considering a new cycle for fat loss and lean muscle. I've only done gear once. It was only equpoise for 9 weeks. I need to lose 40 pounds while adding lean mass. I way 260# with 30 percent body fat. I'm looking to get down to at least 15 percent b/f. I was trying to keep it simple. 1 maybe 2 a/s with clenbuteral. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I've been doing research for a while now, and I'm getting more confused by the day. So far I was considering winny, anavar or masteron. The more I read, I realized that masteron would not work for me, because of my b/f. Winny sounds like a good idea, exept for the efects on the liver. I heard the injectable version was better on the liver. I have no problem injecting.
Thanks in advance for the info.

 

[cranny]

Bro, don't mean to flame in any way but forget about gear for now w/ 30% BF. Winny, anavar, nor anything else will help you get cut. Go to the diet board, get your diet sorted and get your ass on a cardio routine. Get the fat off first then come back bro.

 

[bca21]

^^agree, diet bro

 

[rotoryrobert]

I just started my diet 2 weeks ago. My girlfriend just had a baby and I went from 235 to 260 during her pregnancy. I'm not looking to do gear until I start to drop more weight. I'm just getting prepared.

 

[Makavelli]

After you get your bodyfat down to 15% then I would go with test and winstrol or test and EQ.

 

[markshark]

I was considering a new cycle for fat loss and lean muscle. I've only done gear once. It was only equpoise for 9 weeks. I need to lose 40 pounds while adding lean mass. I way 260# with 30 percent body fat. I'm looking to get down to at least 15 percent b/f. I was trying to keep it simple. 1 maybe 2 a/s with clenbuteral. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I've been doing research for a while now, and I'm getting more confused by the day. So far I was considering winny, anavar or masteron. The more I read, I realized that masteron would not work for me, because of my b/f. Winny sounds like a good idea, exept for the efects on the liver. I heard the injectable version was better on the liver. I have no problem injecting.
Thanks in advance for the info.

some of those steroids have fat-burning properties, but they arent going to really aid you in losing or burning fat. the only thing youll really get from aas on a cutting cycle is to help you maintain the muscle you already have while cutting, dieting, and doing cardio. you have a better chance at actually losing fat by using ephedra. and at 30 percent bf, the last thing youd want to think about right now is aas. you should focus on cutting, losing as much fat as possible through diet, high rep high intensity workouts and cardio.

 

[rotoryrobert]

There's no way I can do both. Last time when I did equpoise, I was 260 pounds with 32 percent body fat, and I got down to 241 with 25 percent b/f. I know I need to lose body fat first, but when I drop a little more weight, I want to start with something. I know I'm going to take clenbuteral, maybe cytomel and something to keep and hopefully gain lean mass. The equpoise helped, I just wanted to know if there is any thing that might work better. My friend also said tren worked really good, but it is making him feel like he has the flue.

 

[Kick-Ass Stack]

Hey bro, stay away from tren. that stuff is advanced. I thought I was ready for it...little did I know.

It sounds like you know how to diet. A good cycle with a clean diet would be Test-E and EQ.

 

[MorganKane]

At 30% you only need diet and cardio.
if you want to kick it up then use ECA or T-rex.

The pounds will come of pretty quick.
Also, at 30% your blood pressure and overall health might not be the best and adding gear might not be a smart.

you got some good advice here and you should take it.

 

[heavy_duty]

get on the bike and forget about lifting weights man. I see big guys like you in the gym every day with their focus on lifting and I never see them on the bike.

Everybody says they dont want to lose lean mass. It's like they think if they only do cardio for a couple months they are gonna end up at 165LBS and no muscle. It is not that easy to lose muscle.

Get a dose of discipline and willpower, Cut the hell out of your calories take Thermos drink tons of water get off the junk food and snacks, get a reality / gut check about what you are really putting in your mouth daily.

fuck the weights get on the bike and lose the blubber --- I have been there and I know the deal --- I was in denial too bro.

sorry to be so harsh. but if you were 220 you would not look skinny.

 

[Makavelli]

get on the bike and forget about lifting weights man. I see big guys like you in the gym every day with their focus on lifting and I never see them on the bike.

Everybody says they dont want to lose lean mass. It's like they think if they only do cardio for a couple months they are gonna end up at 165LBS and no muscle. It is not that easy to lose muscle.

Get a dose of discipline and willpower, Cut the hell out of your calories take Thermos drink tons of water get off the junk food and snacks, get a reality / gut check about what you are really putting in your mouth daily.

fuck the weights get on the bike and lose the blubber --- I have been there and I know the deal --- I was in denial too bro.

sorry to be so harsh. but if you were 220 you would not look skinny.

Are you serious? Don't lift? Wow bro I thought that myth died out about 10 years ago. Weight training is much more important than cardio. Training increases your metabolism and will ensure fat loss much better than cardio.

 

[looking to lean]

Are you serious? Don't lift? Wow bro I thought that myth died out about 10 years ago. Weight training is much more important than cardio. Training increases your metabolism and will ensure fat loss much better than cardio.

no kidding. us big guys need the weights as well as cardio. its the lack of cardio that has got us where we are tho.

you can definately focus more on cardio than weight training tho. do cardio everyday for at least 30 mins. if you are dedicated to losing fat, 30 mins will be a breeze.

I do 45 mins daily. somedays I go for broke and do 90+ mins. those days end up being a bit of a leg workout anyways.

Dont stop weight lifting (as if you would anyways ), but get as much cardio in as you can. not so much that your legs hurt, but enough that your heart rate is above 120bpm the entire time. HIIT cardio training is fun.. give it a try.

 

[mr_disfunkshun]

Are you serious? Don't lift? Wow bro I thought that myth died out about 10 years ago. Weight training is much more important than cardio. Training increases your metabolism and will ensure fat loss much better than cardio.

WOW that is a myth lifting is the best for loosing weight remeber that muscle weighs more than BF and for every pound of muscle you put on your body will feed that muscle from fat with a restricted diet than you have muscle burning fat and plus your diet burning fat and cardieo burning fat So do lift and make sure you have a strong cardieo program Also would agee with the waiting to use AAS.. But clen and T-3 is somthing that can help you get their a little faster

 

[looking to lean]

clen and TRex for this fatty.....

along with some Gluc-r and seasapure... thank you very much AF store.

~can I get paid now~

 

[heavy_duty]

Lift all you want but diet and cardio must be the priority.
often times a heavy lifting workout will leave you hungry as a horse so you have to control that too.

any way good luck and keep us updated.

 

[rotoryrobert]

Thanks for saying all the things I was thinking after that other post. I always knew muscle helped burn more fat. I'm not looking for the quick fix, I'm just looking for a little help. I definetly know that I need more cardio then lifting weights. I only want to put on, about 10-15 pounds of muscle and lose about 40-50 pounds of fat. I know it's not going to happen overnight.

Today I was doing more research, and thought it would be a good idea to do primo, with clenbuteral and cytemel. What do you guys think.

 

[looking to lean]

no aas.... diet alone will get you the results u r looking for. Im in the exact same boat as you. I have 25-30 lbs to lose MINIMUM before I cycle aas. any higher than 12-15% bf and your aas wont be giving you desired look you are trying to get.

aas requires an abundance of calories. of course you can cut while using aas, but the diet for that must be dialed in with a microscope.

as we have elevated bf from not eating properly for a long period of time, it suggests our diets need work. if your diet is currently dialed in as well as it could be, then you should be seeing all the results you want from that alone. of course this is just my opinion, but I am right where you are man.

save the aas for the prize at the end of the hard work of cutting bf.... really the hard work is just beginning, but by then its a labour of love.

I have all my aas ready for my cycle, but not touching it til Im ready.

at most, if you are dead set on 'using' something...

#1 clen cycle and/or trex
#2 a quick 6-8 week prop cycle. light on bloat and relatively easy to come off of.

for the record Im highly against #2 for you (and me) til bf is down and blood tests come back showing full health. why damage yourself more than your bf is already doing every day at the present.

Good health to you...

 

[rotoryrobert]

What do you guys think about taking primo, with clen and cytomel. I hope to start with in the next week. I'm already on my way of losing excess fat. Since last week I lost 8 pounds. I'm looking to drop 10-15 more before I start my cycle.

 

[looking to lean]

good luck.............

 

[hesoldschool]

heavy duty should do late night infomercials

 

[fireman664]

There's no way I can do both. Last time when I did equpoise, I was 260 pounds with 32 percent body fat, and I got down to 241 with 25 percent b/f. I know I need to lose body fat first, but when I drop a little more weight, I want to start with something. I know I'm going to take clenbuteral, maybe cytomel and something to keep and hopefully gain lean mass. The equpoise helped, I just wanted to know if there is any thing that might work better. My friend also said tren worked really good, but it is making him feel like he has the flue.

cycle ephedra, trex, and clen like this

2 weeks clen (tapper up for 2 weeks, no need to tapper down)
2weeks of Trex
2 weeks ephedra
2 weeks of Trex

repeat

The reason is clen and ephedra hit the same receptors, the 2 weeks of Trex (which doesnt hit those receptors) allows you to keep seeing results on clen and ephedra. You add this to a solid diet and cardio/weight routine and you will drop fat like crazy and maintain muscle. Add in some AAS when you are about 5%bf from your goal and you'll rock.+

 

[heavy_duty]

Post up some before and after pics.

 

[Prizz]

cycle ephedra, trex, and clen like this

2 weeks clen (tapper up for 2 weeks, no need to tapper down)
2weeks of Trex
2 weeks ephedra
2 weeks of Trex

repeat

The reason is clen and ephedra hit the same receptors, the 2 weeks of Trex (which doesnt hit those receptors) allows you to keep seeing results on clen and ephedra. You add this to a solid diet and cardio/weight routine and you will drop fat like crazy and maintain muscle. Add in some AAS when you are about 5%bf from your goal and you'll rock.+

NICE>>>> Some Solid Advice There...... That might be the 1st time I've seen a member reccomend a Clen cycle the PROPER way..... WTG man....

rizz

 

[rotoryrobert]

I already talked to my source about the primo and clen. He checking the prices for me.
Any suggestions on how I should cycle it. I was thinking of doing a 10 week cycle.

 

[DonCorleone562]

Bro, you obviously dont know wtf you are doing. Stay away from AAS for now. You will not be able to see the vascularity and leaness of muscles that you will get with Primo if you have a eskimo layer of fat over it. Drop fat first then do some more research on AAS. Obviously your diet or training sucks, because you had mentioned you did EQ and got down to 240 and now back up to 260. AAS is not going to work if your diet sucks and training sucks. Sorry for being a bit harsh, but its the truth. Also at that hight bf% you are more prone to getting gyno.

 

[shape]

I already talked to my source about the primo and clen. He checking the prices for me.
Any suggestions on how I should cycle it. I was thinking of doing a 10 week cycle.

is there something you arent getting here bro?---everyone told you NO AAS yet--diet and lots of cardio--plain and simple period--at 260 30% BF no AAS will do anything for you--atleast anything you will notice at that hi BF%--it s ridiculous guys think do a few shots and pop a few pills and BAM!!!!! i have abs and veins----dreamland bro---hit the treadmill--clean up your diet and hit those weights--get down your 40lbs then consider AAS--no magic pills exist

 

[Prizz]

is there something you arent getting here bro?---everyone told you NO AAS yet--diet and lots of cardio--plain and simple period--at 260 30% BF no AAS will do anything for you--atleast anything you will notice at that hi BF%--it s ridiculous guys think do a few shots and pop a few pills and BAM!!!!! i have abs and veins----dreamland bro---hit the treadmill--clean up your diet and hit those weights--get down your 40lbs then consider AAS--no magic pills exist

Yeah word, and not only that, but Clen won't be effective till you get leaner anyway..... Need to stick with ECA for a few months, then when you drop some BF, you can hit the Clen.....

rizz

 

[gjohnson5]

I was considering a new cycle for fat loss and lean muscle. I've only done gear once. It was only equpoise for 9 weeks. I need to lose 40 pounds while adding lean mass. I way 260# with 30 percent body fat. I'm looking to get down to at least 15 percent b/f. I was trying to keep it simple. 1 maybe 2 a/s with clenbuteral. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I've been doing research for a while now, and I'm getting more confused by the day. So far I was considering winny, anavar or masteron. The more I read, I realized that masteron would not work for me, because of my b/f. Winny sounds like a good idea, exept for the efects on the liver. I heard the injectable version was better on the liver. I have no problem injecting.
Thanks in advance for the info.

Steroids don't burn fat...