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I've never seen knees do that to someone so fast - the Spider is the real deal, I can't see anyone taking that belt from him anytime soon.
 
Rich looked like crap and scared..... Rich should have trained Muay Tai with a tall ass guy instead of trainging BJJ.. each fight needs special attention and you could tell he wasn't ready.
 
Wow the Franklin fight is hard to watch. The look on Franklin's face is one of such agony, pain, and fear. His face looks at one point as if he is begging Silva to please stop but Silva just destroys him. Silva is the real deal no doubt. I look forward to seeing him fight again.
 
If you have'nt seen knees do that to someone before, you need to watch Wanderlai Silva fight. It wasn't surprising watching knees do that much damage, what was surprising was that Rich had no answer to get out of the clinch.
 
I think instead of bashing Franklin, guys need to look at just how skilled Silva is. Do you think Franklin did nothing but train BJJ?? He was 22-1 for a reason. Of course he trained MT, since that's what Silva is best known for. As far as standup, I'd easily say (as an armchair critic, of course) he's the best in the world at his weightclass.

But what surprised me most was his strength; Franklin is well known for his conditioning, but Silva threw him around like a rag doll, and is probably a natural 185'er, versus Franklin, who looks like he normally sits around 200.

I really can't see anyone being a threat to Silva anytime soon.
 
MikeMartial said:
I think instead of bashing Franklin, guys need to look at just how skilled Silva is. Do you think Franklin did nothing but train BJJ?? He was 22-1 for a reason. Of course he trained MT, since that's what Silva is best known for. As far as standup, I'd easily say (as an armchair critic, of course) he's the best in the world at his weightclass.

But what surprised me most was his strength; Franklin is well known for his conditioning, but Silva threw him around like a rag doll, and is probably a natural 185'er, versus Franklin, who looks like he normally sits around 200.

I really can't see anyone being a threat to Silva anytime soon.
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If he trained MT it didn't show one bit. Silva did exactly what he did to Leban to Franklin. Since he does sit around the 2's that could have been the problem right there. Loosing all that weight just to dominate one class will come to bite you in the ass when a thrue 185'er comes along without having to drop anything. Ever sine he fought shamrock i figured he'd be fighting in the 205 class. I think he may have thought the competition is weaker in the lower class. In any event Silva totally dominated from the bell on.... My hats off!!!!!!
 
I have to disagree with two things said thus far that stick out in mymind

1.) Rich trained MThai
he did EVERY rookie mistake in the Clinch he could have done
if he trained MThai he should recieve his money back

2.) Silva did exactly to Rich what he did to Leben
not really
for many reasons
the outcome was pretty similar, but outside striking and clinching cannot be called exactly the same
tho he did beat both of thier asses in a relativly short timeframe, in that respect it was the same
 
Kane Fan said:
I have to disagree with two things said thus far that stick out in mymind

1.) Rich trained MThai
he did EVERY rookie mistake in the Clinch he could have done
if he trained MThai he should recieve his money back

2.) Silva did exactly to Rich what he did to Leben
not really
for many reasons
the outcome was pretty similar, but outside striking and clinching cannot be called exactly the same
tho he did beat both of thier asses in a relativly short timeframe, in that respect it was the same
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Knee to the head in the clinch... Silva is just really long and doesn't have to bend that much to kneee ya in the head. I have to say i wasn't impressed when he knocked out leban but the way he tossed Rich around the ring i was extremely suprised and impressed.. I don't see any of the 185'ers from the show giving him a hard time at all...
 
I cant believe how bad Rich looked in the clinch. Fair enough the knees were doing damage to the body but Rich didnt look like he even tried to move out of the position he was in and then to drop his arms down to his sides was obvious what was going to happen from there he left himself wide open. I was suprised Rich didnt try a takedown to give him some recovery time instead he tried standing up that last knee was just fuckin sick his nose was screwed. On a seperate note Silva looks awesome. I just dont get how a fighter like Rich gets KO`d so quickly from a guy who has gone the distance 5 times in 17 fights.
 
The Miletich camp hasn't looked so good lately. My hats off to silva his Muay Tai is superb. I would like to see a rematch between these guys.
 
norsemuscle said:
The Miletich camp hasn't looked so good lately. My hats off to silva his Muay Tai is superb. I would like to see a rematch between these guys.
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Rich isn't from Team Miletich.
 
[I really can't see anyone being a threat to Silva anytime soon.[/QUOTE]

Keep an eye on Nathan Marquart
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
[I really can't see anyone being a threat to Silva anytime soon.
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Keep an eye on Nathan Marquart[/QUOTE]


Didn't that guy get busted for juicing already. i think his first ufc fight he got caught using deca...
 
franklin should have dropped to one knee when the fight started just like how he told matt serra lmao
 
Kane, you are right, he did a couple rookie mistakes in the clinch. First he tried to create space the wrong way-------he tried to weave his arm in from the TOP, rather than weave it in from underneath.

Also, he bent over. Big mistake. I thought he would have at least tried to 'hip' into him to close distance?
 
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heres novembers cover, note the resemblance to jim carrey lol
 
The following are the medical suspensions for random fighters for damage suffered in their bouts at the October 14, 2006 UFC 64 "Unstoppable" event from the Mandalay Bay Resort in Las Vegas, Nevada.

-Rich Franklin must clear a nasal fracture with an ENT Dr. or he can not fight until April 9, 2007.

-Sean Sherk is suspended until November 14, 2006 due to a laceration and other injuries sustained in his full five-round Lightweight title bout.

-Kuniyoshi Hironaka is suspended until December 14, 2006 for damage suffered in his full three-round bout.

-Jon Fitch must clear a nasal fracture with an ENT Dr. or he cna not fight until April 9, 2007. However, he has a minimum suspension of no fighting until November 29, 2006.

-Carmelo Marrero is suspended until November 29, 2006 for damage suffered in his full three-round bout.

-Dan Lauzon is suspended until November 29, 2006 for damage suffered in his first round TKO loss.

http://www.mmanews.com/ufc/Fighter-Medical-Suspensions-From-UFC-64-Unstoppable.html
 
karachi183 said:
Knee to the head in the clinch... Silva is just really long and doesn't have to bend that much to kneee ya in the head. I have to say i wasn't impressed when he knocked out leban but the way he tossed Rich around the ring i was extremely suprised and impressed.. I don't see any of the 185'ers from the show giving him a hard time at all...
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actually, neither do I
but the thing is I didn't really see any o fthem from the show giving Rich a hard time
that's goign to be a pain in the coming months if they don't get new 185 talent
Rich dominated that division, and Silva Dominated Rich
true, you can't look at all MMA fights that way cus it is mixed so many variables play a part, but still that is going to be a factor even if it shouldn't
the closest thing to a challenge Rich had as the 185 champ was The Crow
and he dominated him all five rounds, you could argue when David stunned Rich he got that round but still four rounds to one
 
kickboxer195 said:
Kane, you are right, he did a couple rookie mistakes in the clinch. First he tried to create space the wrong way-------he tried to weave his arm in from the TOP, rather than weave it in from underneath.

Also, he bent over. Big mistake. I thought he would have at least tried to 'hip' into him to close distance?
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well after the fourth or fifth knee there wasn't any choice but to bend over...
only thing I can think of is (barring some outside influence weighting heavily on Rich) maybe the very first knee Silva landed did the serious body damage
and then the last or second to last knee that caught his face was the KO strike
 
karachi183 said:
Keep an eye on Nathan Marquart
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Didn't that guy get busted for juicing already. i think his first ufc fight he got caught using deca...[/QUOTE]

Yes. Nathan got busted for Deca use as did Tim Silvia.
 
norsemuscle said:
Really? I just assumed because he is always hanging out with Silvia, Hughes, etc...
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I think he is on Team Extreme with Jorge Gurgel. Sometimes the fighters cross train with other teams though. Joe Riggs trains with Team Miletich sometimes, but I don't think he is an official member given his fight with Mat Hughes.
 
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