Silly EQ question?

[LftHndPwrHouse]

Does anyone have experience with running EQ only? I was thinking about it. Someone i know did it..i want to hear some other voices. ie. libido issues with out using hcg..and over all how you felt with out some test.

 

[big greg 82]

i wouldnt do it, its too mild by itself, i would def throw some test in there and then its good to go, but thats my 2cents....

 

[oxymed]

Wait for Bruce410 to chime in on this one........he loves EQ with no test.

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

ya....i know everyone is going to say add the test.....but i have been at this for a long time...Im sure there are alot of bros here that can vouch for my background.

I know my body very well and i know how test effects me so im looking to experiment with a no test cycle. Im taking time off this year from compitition due to knee surgery.

I can do prop but im going to be honest if i can avoid it outside of when i really need it..ie compitition then im going to avoid it

 

[thebrakes]

you wont know til you try it. EQ gives me better veins, more endurance, more hardness and less water than test. libido impact is very little, and i've run the EQ way higher than test (still never ran EQ solo)

 

[mikematt06]

run eq for 12 weeks at 600mg EW and test enan 500mg EW. eq by itself would take 6 to 8 weeks just to kick in you would get mild gains from that

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

i loved eq solo...600mg ew for 15 weeks...ran some var there at the end but eq solo for quite a while

 

[MR. BMJ]

What are your goals?

BMJ

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

run eq for 12 weeks at 600mg EW and test enan 500mg EW. eq by itself would take 6 to 8 weeks just to kick in you would get mild gains from that

ummm...im going to experiment with a testless cycle. I dont want the effects of 500mg of test. Im not a newb. I normally run EQ at 1000mg i dont need a newb cycle. and eq doesnt take 6 to 8wks to kick in.


thanks Brakes. I get the same effects from EQ. And i normally run it higher then test because i use it in the beginning of the cutting season.
last time i ran eq before knee surgery i ran about 1000mg of test and 1200mg of eq for about 16wks.

 

[justinjones1963]

I ran EQ alone (with dbol frontload and winny at the end) 400mg/wk.

If you are cutting then EQ alone is an excellent AAS. I had zero sides except for slight testicle shrinkage. The only blood level that was off was my RBC (this was about a month after) and that was barely elevated. Everything else was rock solid.

I would frontload with an oral. It took 3-4 weeks for EQ to kick in for me. I would also go 12 weeks at the least.

 

[GymIntensity]

it might not take 6 to 8 weeks to kickin in if you are running a Gram, but i'm running 400mg per week right now , start of week 9 and I'm just now starting to get my serious pumps from it. Def wouldn't run it less than 15 weeks. Ask bruce, hes thinkin bout goin 20 for it. kicked in around week 10 for him.
slow lean gains. 1000mg of EQ should give u a horrible red blood cell count which isn't good, not to mention crazy anxiety and possibly high BP. gluck

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

I ran EQ alone (with dbol frontload and winny at the end) 400mg/wk.

If you are cutting then EQ alone is an excellent AAS. I had zero sides except for slight testicle shrinkage. The only blood level that was off was my RBC (this was about a month after) and that was barely elevated. Everything else was rock solid.

I would frontload with an oral. It took 3-4 weeks for EQ to kick in for me. I would also go 12 weeks at the least.

Thanks bro. Ya i had a lil shrinkage last time but i was using huge doeses because i was comming off my bulking for the last season i competed in. and nothing a lil HCG didnt fix.

Basically my story. I i took some time off because of personal/fam probs from competeing..and i tore my pcl and had surgury. So im skipping this season. And i am just going to try something new/mild just wanna see how the joint is going to react under the stress of AAS and training. Oh ya...im still in great shape but im going away to DR in December and i wanted to stay as lean as possible and bulk when i get back.

PS im using Anavar 100mg ED at the end of my EQ

 

[justinjones1963]

Thanks bro. Ya i had a lil shrinkage last time but i was using huge doeses because i was comming off my bulking for the last season i competed in. and nothing a lil HCG didnt fix.

Basically my story. I i took some time off because of personal/fam probs from competeing..and i tore my pcl and had surgury. So im skipping this season. And i am just going to try something new/mild just wanna see how the joint is going to react under the stress of AAS and training. Oh ya...im still in great shape but im going away to DR in December and i wanted to stay as lean as possible and bulk when i get back.

PS im using Anavar 100mg ED at the end of my EQ

var is a good choice - easier on the joints than winny too.

On another note, I kept 100% of my gains too. Just like the post above mentioned the gains were slow but they were solid and I kept it all which is a nice beneift of EQ.

 

[chazk]

no one keeps 100% of the gains if so you would only have to do one good cycle and prob never do another becuase you would not lose the gains.

you may be the same weight on a scale but most people will agree that once you come off compunds like eq and winstrol that the hardness starts to fade after a few months.Being 225lbs ripped on eq and winstrol is a dif story then being lean and off steroids at 225lbs. chances are you know what i'm talking about but ether never come off roids or eat mass amounts post cycle and dont mind the fluff

 

[VascularitY]

800-1000mg a week of EQ for 16-20 weeks with 60-80 mg of Var for the first 6 weeks -- sounds mofuggin yummy to me

 

[DieselGunz]

I am still contemplating running the eq alone or a small doese of test, time will tell

 

[solidspine]

EQ and Test E are nice combo

could jump start first 4 weeks with russian D-bol

 

[abomb]

Eq and Primo stack is the best non test cycle I've ever ran. No sides whatsoever. Good quality gains. Just be prepared to run it for longer than "normal". I would say 20 weeks.

 

[.Wonder_Bread.]

What about SUS and winny with EQ. That ok to replace the Test?

 

[abomb]

Sust is a blend of 4 testoterone esters.

 

[Ulter]

Eq alone makes me just as aggressive as tren does. Test seems to balance that out.

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

Thanks guys for your voices.....

Sus...not happening=bloated mess

 

[DieselGunz]

Eq alone makes me just as aggressive as tren does. Test seems to balance that out.

WOW very interesting, why do u think that happens?