Sigh, what do I do in this situation?

[sojoocy]

Alright I'll try and make this as brief as I can. A mate of mine started Test P a few weeks ago, I thought he wasn't all that serious when he said he was jumping on the gear. Anyway he is in week 3, and has not run any support supplements at all so far, doesn't know anything about PCT, and just thinks doing 'roids is as easy as pinning yourself and getting big but here's a kicker or two.

He is 24, 6"3-6"4 I'd say around 130kilos (286lbs) and 25%bf....................Now I know what kind of troubles he is going to run in to but how in the fuck do you tell one of the most stubborn people he is really going to fuck himself up? he is going to get a multivitamin (probably a $10 one) which will do next to nothing really. Even though I'm meant to be stocking up for my new year cycle I honestly feel like just buying him some stuff so he doesn't pretty much mess his life up :/ but I'm not even sure how serious he would take using all the supps and everything, ugh. Honestly cannot see him running a 4+ week PCT, talked to him about his sex drive issues, losing all his gains but just seems to think it won't happen to him........

More to the point, to hell with the libido sides and lose of gains, I'm wondering about his heart/Kidneys, health in general here, should not be anywhere near gear in the first place, am I over-reacting in thinking "will he even make it to PCT?" Don't really feel like having a mate drop dead right now.

 

[jester72]

I'm pretty confident he'll make it to PCT. All you can really do is recommend a PCT to him, and tell him what is going to happen to his body physiologically. If he doesn't want to listen, he'll just have to "Live and learn" so to speak. Once he's shut down with no sex drive or libido, I'm sure he'll come running back for your advice.

 

[sojoocy]

That's what I'm pretty much thinking, I've told him can't say I didn't try. I'll just keep sounding like a broken record until he finally gets the point, which will be when he feels like complete trash once his cycle is done. Might ask what his injection process is, see if he is even doing that correctly

 

[stevesmi]

damn he is already a heart attack away and doing this is only gonna make the situation worse.

people are stubborn and i doubt he will listen.. really nothing you can do man except introduce him to sites like this that promote proper steroid use and email him some threads talking about the bad things that people who have been overweight have experienced, he is welcome to PM me or any other mod on here.. its nice that you care about your friend but he is gonna do whatever he wants in the end. he obviously has no discipline being that fat in the first place. if he really was serious he would focus on losing weight and getting healthy first.

 

[RADAR]

I dispise armchair bodybuilders.

 

[joeblow12345]

All you can do is let him learn the hard way. Unless he already has a heart condition, he probably wont drop dead. Hes still young so he will have age on his side. But he will soon realize once his gains go down the drain that he made a dumb decision.

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[Nelson Montana]

I have no sympathy for people who fuck themselves up by doing fucked up shit.

If he isn't responsible enough to look after himself, I or anyone else can't do it for him.

 

[RADAR]

I have no sympathy for people who fuck themselves up by doing fucked up shit.

If he isn't responsible enough to look after himself, I or anyone else can't do it for him.

Yep! Thats why i stated my comment as such,those are the people who think they know it all,or the ones that say "it Can't Happen to me"

 

[sojoocy]

Yeh one side of me is thinking well fuck it he didn't listen and didn't do any research so why should I go out of my way anymore, then the other side feels like I should, but I know him too well to know he won't listen as he thinks he is invincible. Guess I'm seeing first hand how not to run a cycle......I really don't know how people can go in so blind, I'm sketchy as with my health. He is even saying he feels sick and everything, put two and two together fuck lol.

Thanks guys I just needed somewhere to vent

 

[sojoocy]

Well said he was throwing up today and feels sick as, and is not putting it down to the 'roids at all, doesn't sound like it'd be related to it but just seems a bit coincidental hrmmmmmm who knows time will tell.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ a bad heart can cause those symptoms.

 

[freakshow85]

Sucks. Some uninformed guy can get this shit, and I've read about this stuff for years and have never seen the real deal. Pisses me off.

 

[sojoocy]

Really he should give me the last 6 weeks, I'll run a short cycle and get more out of it lol.

A bad heart wouldn't surprise me with his size, big smoker too.

 

[RADAR]

Really he should give me the last 6 weeks, I'll run a short cycle and get more out of it lol.

A bad heart wouldn't surprise me with his size, big smoker too.

Oh! Man! Being a big smoker i bet he looks like Sh*t ,Since You need alot of liquid running a cycle Might as well go the whole 9 yards and down a 12 pack every night!

 

[sojoocy]

It's a fucked up situation, not really keen to see how this pans out but at the same time kind of am. What's surprised me is a fair few people know he is on because he told them, thought he'd keep it under wraps, probably going to wish he did.

 

[RADAR]

I guess it's pointless to try and get him on here so I could have a talk with him ?


Heck! I'll even give him my number so he can talk to me,just let me know

 

[sojoocy]

I could try but don't really like the chances, cheers regardless.

 

[Ranger11B]

I am not soo much concerned about your friend to be honest as I am the blowback that stupidity like this causes for our community. The reason i say that is as a bud he should at least listen to your concerns or make an effort to educate himself. The main concerns with your friend is not only physical but mental. High bf + smoker+ test he will be lucky if a limp dick is all he gets versus heart failure. Mentally what would get him from playing xbox, smoking cigs, and eating ice cream to jumping on steriods is a major concern to me, if he makes it through this whats next? ... Id seriously start him an ef account give him the pass and tell him just log in if for nothing else then the fact that hes your boy.. hopefully curiosity will set in and one of our bros here can help. Outside of that id say your friend is hardly that at all

 

[sojoocy]

Yeh everything you said there is pretty much on point. He has always been stubborn as fuck too, so I know it's useless to keep trying to get through to him, haven't spoken to him in a few days so eh.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ we all have friends like that. if he is getting in your way of your goals and smokes in your face and stuff like this then dump him and go find new friends..

 

[sojoocy]

Well it seems I'm more stubborn than him and he actually read up on everything and is now bugging me to get him everything for his post cycle lol just sold him some stuff I had stocked up, and well, knocked the price up a bit for my troubles lol.