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Sick of hearing white trash bitch.

cockdezl said:



This is a topic that is very emotion, instead of logic, driven.

If a man is smart, creative and ambitious, and produces something of great value to society, whereby he makes huge sums of money from it, he is naturally going to leave it to his children. Since his children are better off in the world than 95% of the population, they are going to have greater access to schooling and job potentials. This happens over generation after generation, and there are other families like this. Did they do anything immoral to attain the status that they exist in? If not, then why are so many hated as if they did do something illegal to gain their positions?

While there is no doubt that power corrupts, the world would not be as well off as it is without a Henry Ford, a Thomas Edison, a John Rockefeller. Historically, it has always been the inventiveness and drive of only a few people who alter mankind, yet they are despised by those who have done nothing but complain about their status in life.

I don't think 2Thick is complaining. The point is more that the efforts of the wealthy to stay there often involve legislative action that makes it even more difficult for the poorest to make progress.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:


I don't think 2Thick is complaining. The point is more that the efforts of the wealthy to stay there often involve legislative action that makes it even more difficult for the poorest to make progress.

This is may be true, but not as immoral, as say using democracy to pass legislation that takes from the wealthy for personal gain. Madison voiced this concern, explaining that there needed to be protection of the "minority" (wealthy land owner), from the "majority" (land-less individuals), who would always vote for financial redistribution. This was why there was originally no "right" to vote.

I am not quite sure what legislation blocks or hinders "poor" from progressing.
 
cockdezl said:


This is may be true, but not as immoral, as say using democracy to pass legislation that takes from the wealthy for personal gain. Madison voiced this concern, explaining that there needed to be protection of the "minority" (wealthy land owner), from the "majority" (land-less individuals), who would always vote for financial redistribution. This was why there was originally no "right" to vote.

I am not quite sure what legislation blocks or hinders "poor" from progressing.

Income tax. while the penalty is harsher on the higher earners, 36% of 300K is less an an impact than 18% of 27K.

The whole thing should be scratched. Our government redistributes like the Saudis. People in power pay others to keep them there.

Throw in social security also. Today's SS payees are not paying themselves, they are paying Grandma. Ridiculous. Phase it out already and let people keep theirmoney.

Most law enfrocement also targets the poor disproportlonately....like our old friend the drug war.
 
2Thick said:


I have not even mentioned hidden taxes such as sales tax and gas tax.

Federal excise taxes on gasoline are 18.3 cents per gallon

States impose excise taxes as well: When the price of gasoline in the United States is $1.10 per gallon, for instance, excise taxes account for about 40 cents, or 36 percent of the total; the pre-tax price is about 70 cents.

Most States impose a severance tax when oil (or gas or another natural resource) is produced from property within their territory.

Yes, we pay them all and keep paying them. bend over and take that big dick up your ass.



Gas tax info from: http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/analysis_publications/oil_market_basics/Price_taxes.htm
 
My personal favorite is the self employment tax. It is fun to get punished because I decided to actually start a business and provide a service for my community.

Fuck the IRS.
 
BO-CEPHUS said:
My personal favorite is the self employment tax. It is fun to get punished because I decided to actually start a business and provide a service for my community.

Fuck the IRS.

makes as much sense as property tax going up when you improve the property.

The governemnt is a revenue redistribution agency. Our gov stays in power the same way they do in Saudi Arabia: taking money from teh treasury and redistributing it to powerful individuals.

All they care is about is your money and their power.
 
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