Shrugs with shoulders or with back?

[IronandGravity]

Shrugs are sortof in a gray area for me, can't decide whether they go with shoulders or with back.

How do you arrange it?

 

[Destroyer1986*]

do shoulders and back on the same day, thats what I do.

 

[WalkingBeast]

These days I have an entire day dedicated to back, which if you see my back routine, it makes sense. I used to do traps on my shoulder days though, after finishing my shoulders. That worked real well. The main thing was that I did them. I dont think it matters what day you do them on, aslong as you do them last so they dont get in the way of major muscles. You could train them with back also, if you have anything left. I dont train my traps seperately since theyre my best body part in terms of growth. I deadlift alot, and that makes up for it. Hope that helps

 

[TheOak84]

i like to do them with deltS. I ALREADY DO 4 MOVEMENTs for my back, SO MY TRAPs are pretty much SHOT, WITH WOKRING THEM 3 DAYS after back, with deltS, THEY GET TRAINED TWICE... WITHIN 3 MONTHS of sWITCHIN TO THIs i got a few complimentS.. TRAPS, calves AND FOREARMs are a trouble sPOT FOR ME. so whenever i do feel like working them i wanna give 110%

 

[from zero]

They are muscles in your back, so why would you move them to another day ... ?

I never understood this.

 

[BOOEY]

I mix it up .. one month I'll do them w/ back, the next w/ shoulders. They seem to be growing at the same rate regardless of when I do them

 

[zxe003]

I used to train them at the end of my shoulder workout because I was so focused on attaining high traps. I've been working lately towards more of a full development of the entire trapezius which is more associated with back. I find that after my rows and deads, the bulk of my traps (which run down the upper middle of you back) are somewhat pre-exhausted and if I follow up with higher rows to the chest, face pulls and even reverse peck decks, I can feel the traps contracting better. And of course you gotta hit the dumbell shrugs right along with it.

 

[cwick0]

1. Traps are a very large muscle associated with the shoulders and back. So, it doesnt matter when you hit them, JUST DO THEM.
2. However, even though the run down your upper spine, do them with shoulders, preferable after hitting delts (front, side, and rears!).
3. You fatigue your traps when you hit them with deads and rows and help define them when you do pull-ups.
4. Since they are already fatigued from a back workout, isolate them at the end of a shoulder workout to get the most benefit.

 

[halfaclue]

I do shoulders press, then front and side laterals, rev pec dec...then I tie into shrugs by doing upright rows then straight to traps.

 

[from zero]

1. Traps are a very large muscle associated with the shoulders and back. So, it doesnt matter when you hit them, JUST DO THEM.
2. However, even though the run down your upper spine, do them with shoulders, preferable after hitting delts (front, side, and rears!).
3. You fatigue your traps when you hit them with deads and rows and help define them when you do pull-ups.
4. Since they are already fatigued from a back workout, isolate them at the end of a shoulder workout to get the most benefit.

I'm not sure I agree with some of this. #3 particularly. You cannot "define a muscle" with specific exercises. Definition comes from dieting.

As for #4, I don't like your reasoning. Just because a muscle is fatigued, it does not mean it cannot grow. Your tris are fatigued after a chest workout, but lots of people still hit them right after.

'Nam sayin'?


But, whatever works for you guys. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.