Shoulder problems.

[ScottK345]

There are certain exersizes that always hurt my shoulder and I have to stay at a really low weight. front shoulder raises, and tricep rope pushdowns seem to hurt my shoulder. Should I keep doing lighter weights to strengthen my shoulders? or do you think swimming would help out this problem?

 

[hulse]

I wouldn't even bother with those lifts since they hurt you. Not the greatest for those body parts and there are plenty of substitutes. I noticed that as my weight on barbell shoulder presses started going to 100lbs, my right shoulder felt "pinched" at the bottom of the movement. So I've moved to db presses, no pain, all gain.

 

[ScottK345]

Yeah I suppose I'll just stick with db press because I haven't had any problems with my shoulders when I do them.

 

[mayhems]

haha i did something similar or at least messed up my shoulder, was doing some 60 DB shoulder presses for the first time in a month or so when at the top of my 10th rep i just lost it and the weight came down tot he front and i heard like ripping/tearing... although it doesnt feel severly damaged... is there anything i should do to perhaps speed up the recovery?

 

[Chambewy20]

If it hurts... quit doing it, there are tons of shoulder and tricep exercises that work only those parts. If you have to shoulder presses, don't do any behind the neck, do militarys to the front and to at least your chin. Dumbell presses don't hurt you so continue with those, just stop at your ears and you can also do what we call "Arnolds" where you bring them down like a normal shoulder press and once you come down to your ears, rotate your shoulders in front of you were your palms are facing you and bring them down to your clavicle or collar bone. Hard to explain, but i think you should be able to get the gist.

For tri's, any cable pushdown will incorporate your shoulders, therefore, try skull crushers, close grip benches, kick backs, behind the head dumbell press, things of that nature. They will use your shoulders as a stabilizers but will not directly incorporate utilize them for movements.

Hope this helps!!!

 

[supreme]

Bro:

first- Pain inhibits muscle contraction, NEVER do exercises that cause pain! You will just cause more damage and create compensations elsewhere in your body. Forget the front raise, the ant. deltoid is usually over worked due to other chest & delt. pressing exercises.

More than likely you have began to develop an upper crossed syndrome and or possible impingement in the shoulder. forget swimming, it is hard enough on healthy shoulders. I suggest you get checked for some shoulder problems and evaluate your upper body routine.
A simple evaluation for shoulder & rotator cuff ROM, Forward head posture, cervical rotation & lateral flexion, and scapula position would provide a lot of info.

Like most people you probably need to stretch what is tight & strengthen what is weak but you will only get that info from an eval. of your posture. DO NOT stretch everything or you will create more problems.

Look at your program; do you do more for chest,delts, Bi's & upper abs than your back, rear delts, lower abs & tri's. Do you do any specific work for your scapula retractors, rotator cuffs, and transverse abdominus? If yes to the first part and no to the second, then you are well on your way to severe postural dysfunctions that will only get worse the more you lift & the longer you lift (trust me- I am speaking from first hand experience treating these problems in others and myself!)

I would start with a program eval & make any changes neccessary, get a postural eval and put in the correct stretches and if I still had pain I would go for an MRI or orthopedic eval and soft tissue therapy like ART.

Hope this helped

S

 

[anthrax]

Swimming is contraindicated when you have shoulders problems ?

 

[mayhems]

anyone have any ideas on what i should do for a hurt muscle in my shoulder that could be torn? perhaps just stay away from it to let it heal?

 

[BOOEY]

anyone have any ideas on what i should do for a hurt muscle in my shoulder that could be torn? perhaps just stay away from it to let it heal?

Here's an idea: Get it checked out by a professional rather than taking advice form people you don't know on a message board

 

[ScottK345]

Look at your program; do you do more for chest,delts, Bi's & upper abs than your back, rear delts, lower abs & tri's. Do you do any specific work for your scapula retractors, rotator cuffs, and transverse abdominus? If yes to the first part and no to the second, then you are well on your way to severe postural dysfunctions that will only get worse the more you lift & the longer you lift (trust me- I am speaking from first hand experience treating these problems in others and myself!)
S

I haven't done those exersizes since they hurt my shoulders, so hopefully I didn't hurt them in anyway, and what do you mean by postural dysfunctions? and could you give me some examples of, rotator cuff, scapula retractors, and transverse abominus exersizes. I don't know all the techincal terms to well yet.

 

[supreme]

I'll put up some info & links later.

Swimming can be contraindicated if there is an upper crossed syndrome, impingement or damage to the subscapularis - which is very common in swimmers who do the breast & butterfly stroke which have massive amounts of internal rotation; the subscap is an internal rotator and frequently overworked & overpowered by the larger internal rotators: Pecs, lats, ant. delt.

S

 

[Johnnny]

ScottK345

There are certain exersizes that always hurt my shoulder and I have to stay at a really low weight. front shoulder raises, and tricep rope pushdowns seem to hurt my shoulder. Should I keep doing lighter weights to strengthen my shoulders? or do you think swimming would help out this problem?

You don't even need those exercises & if they hurt even more reason not to do them.

If you hit your chest hard you don't need front delt raises, & there are many varriations of tricep extensions you can do instead.

I did something awhile back to my shoulder when doing squats with 350lbs. The support levels where adjusted too high.

& one time on my left side when I was putting the bar back on the rack I missed the support on the lest & I pushed the weight slightly up with my left shoulder & it hurt.

It still hurts some what when I do Good Mornings but never for presses & I don't do squats anymore.