Should Newbies have to take a TEST?

[jonny jacked]

Though I am able to sympathize with your disappointment in the direction it seems our anabolic board has gone, I feel your method of resolution is faulty. What you must realize is that there are only so many questions you can ask about steroids. Think about all the muscle magazines that are out there – Flex, Muscle and Fitness etc. all they do is recycle old ideas by re-wording them. Why? Because after a few months, they have exhausted all there is to talk about in the world of fitness. There are only so many ways to “pump up your pecs.” The same happens on these boards. After being here a few months, you quickly realize that every question you can imagine has been asked. This is why so many of the guys on there who used to frequent the anabolic board, now spend their time on the chat board, simply because in chat - everyday brings something new – unlike here.
So how do we solve this? I would have to give it some thought. But, I do not believe testing new members will eliminate the problem, because as I said – there is only so much you can ask about juice.

 

[FlexManning]

But, I do not believe testing new members will eliminate the problem, because as I said – there is only so much you can ask about juice.

You are indeed hitting on a hard truth there bro, which is certain aspects of the big picture are made much more complicated than necessary. There are so many schools of thought on cycles that it boggles the mind, but some of the cheapest and most effective cycles can be explained in about 10 words.

I used to grit my teeth seeing questions over and over again about "cutting" stacks and "bulking" stacks. The truth is that many of the knowledgable pros and "gurus" have moved past that school of thought to some degree. I've even read some astute writers suggesting stacking period is a little overrated. Not useless mind you, but just a little overrated.

 

[DIVISION]

Though I am able to sympathize with your disappointment in the direction it seems our anabolic board has gone, I feel your method of resolution is faulty.

It's a vicious cycle, JackerJon..

The more stupid threads that vets see posted, the less inclined they are to spend time here. That's the main reason alot of the Vets who have been here longer than me don't frequent the site. Having the search function available for non-plats isn't a factor either because alot of these "newbie" questions can be found by simply doing a google search. It's not hard, I've even done it myself just to see if the information was that hard to gather.

I suppose I could just skip the repetitive newbie posts, but I'm trying to get people to take some intiative and learn on their own. As CowCutter said, it's more beneficial for them to learn these things the hard way, through research and experience. Cycles are subjective because everyone's genetics and body's response will be different.

@ManualFlex, yes you've got a point regarding Cutters and Bulkers......they are overrated as a whole. The drugs will do what they do regardless, it's whether the training, diet and rest are adequate which determines what the results in a given cycle will be. Also, the variable of whether the individual is an athlete, aspiring bodybuilder, powerlifter, or recreational lifter will factor in determining what is best. Breaking things down to either "cutters" or "bulkers" is pretty simplistic and inefficient, but that's what it's come down to here.



DIV

 

[jonny jacked]

You are indeed hitting on a hard truth there bro, which is certain aspects of the big picture are made much more complicated than necessary. There are so many schools of thought on cycles that it boggles the mind, but some of the cheapest and most effective cycles can be explained in about 10 words.

I used to grit my teeth seeing questions over and over again about "cutting" stacks and "bulking" stacks. The truth is that many of the knowledgable pros and "gurus" have moved past that school of thought to some degree. I've even read some astute writers suggesting stacking period is a little overrated. Not useless mind you, but just a little overrated.

Yes, you are correct that there are a select few posts that we see which do privy us to new and exciting schools of thought. but, if you eliminate everything else – you eliminate over 90% of the posts (and people) on here. What could we do then? One idea would be to create a board which would only host such ideas of using steroids that have not been proposed on the ‘regular’ board. A board which would deal with cutting edge methods, and new theories on muscle growth – thus eliminating the regular everyday questions which plague our anabolic forum. An ‘elite’ forum if you will.
What are everyone’s thoughts on this?

 

[jonny jacked]

It's a vicious cycle, JackerJon..

The more stupid threads that vets see posted, the less inclined they are to spend time here. That's the main reason alot of the Vets who have been here longer than me don't frequent the site. Having the search function available for non-plats isn't a factor either because alot of these "newbie" questions can be found by simply doing a google search. It's not hard, I've even done it myself just to see if the information was that hard to gather.

I suppose I could just skip the repetitive newbie posts, but I'm trying to get people to take some intiative and learn on their own. As CowCutter said, it's more beneficial for them to learn these things the hard way, through research and experience. Cycles are subjective because everyone's genetics and body's response will be different.

@ManualFlex, yes you've got a point regarding Cutters and Bulkers......they are overrated as a whole. The drugs will do what they do regardless, it's whether the training, diet and rest are adequate which determines what the results in a given cycle will be. Also, the variable of whether the individual is an athlete, aspiring bodybuilder, powerlifter, or recreational lifter will factor in determining what is best. Breaking things down to either "cutters" or "bulkers" is pretty simplistic and inefficient, but that's what it's come down to here.



DIV

Div, I am certainly not advocating boycotting all posts deemed repetitive or ‘stupid’. I am a teacher, and as I tell my students – there is no such thing as a stupid question. I think the reason many people when they have a question, rather than researching, simply post it, is because they are lazy. Unfortunately, many have the mentality of ‘why do something yourself, when you could have someone else do it for you’.

 

[DIVISION]

What are everyone’s thoughts on this?

I think it's too late and the vets are already jaded with the way the Anabolic forum has degraded over the last year+.

I like the idea, but I don't see it really having the effect you want it to.

Pass.




DIV

 

[CENTURION44]

AbSOLUTELY...........saves all of us allot of time reading stupid posts...i agree to the fullest

 

[DIVISION]

Div, I am certainly not advocating boycotting all posts deemed repetitive or ‘stupid’. I am a teacher, and as I tell my students – there is no such thing as a stupid question. I think the reason many people when they have a question, rather than researching, simply post it, is because they are lazy. Unfortunately, many have the mentality of ‘why do something yourself, when you could have someone else do it for you’.

JackerJonathan, I've preached for kids to do their own research for years.....

It doesn't work.....they keep asking the same questions.



DIV

 

[flyingjer]

i don't think they should have to take a test...but i do think that maybe at sign up there should be some kind of pop up or disclaimer saying read all stickys related to the forum you are posting in too before asking any questions....and well about the question vs research thing...just because some of us know our stuff doesn't mean we didn't ask question to get some of that knowledge...also if you are not plat the search sucks...and not everybody first joining the board wants to spend the money to be platinum...or can afford it for that matter...give some of the guys a break...yeah there are some dumb questions or post by newbies but some i see people rip on are not that bad...just a question that has been answered before...big deal...instead of typing something to complain about it...just answer the question...i know i am fairly new been on the board about 7 months with 155 posts but...just my .02

 

[DIVISION]

i don't think they should have to take a test...but i do think that maybe at sign up there should be some kind of pop up or disclaimer saying read all stickys related to the forum you are posting in too before asking any questions....and well about the question vs research thing...just because some of us know our stuff doesn't mean we didn't ask question to get some of that knowledge...also if you are not plat the search sucks...and not everybody first joining the board wants to spend the money to be platinum...or can afford it for that matter...give some of the guys a break...yeah there are some dumb questions or post by newbies but some i see people rip on are not that bad...just a question that has been answered before...big deal...instead of typing something to complain about it...just answer the question...i know i am fairly new been on the board about 7 months with 155 posts but...just my .02

HighFlyer......you're a newbie so of course you have this perspective on things. I rip on all newbies for dumb questions, I'm an equal opportunity asshole. I've answered enough newbie questions and when you've been on as long as I have you will understand where I am coming from.




DIV