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Should I visit LA or NY?

jd_uk

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Doing a round the world trip (anyone else done one?) for 4 months in January to May 2011. Starting off my trip with a week or two in the US and I have a choice of either Los Angeles or New York. Where should I go? Btw, I will need to do it on the cheap, although I know that's hard in America.
 
first off, your trip sounds AWESOME. props to you man.

about your question, NYC has MUCH more cultural, political, and historical significance than LA. don't get me wrong, i love LA and they also have the whole weather and beach thing going. But if you are picking one it HAS to be new york
 
first off, your trip sounds AWESOME. props to you man.

about your question, NYC has MUCH more cultural, political, and historical significance than LA. don't get me wrong, i love LA and they also have the whole weather and beach thing going. But if you are picking one it HAS to be new york

cheers man,

Will consider that.

I'm split. I was thinking LA because of the beaches, hollywood and also i wanted to visit the woldcard boxing gym (bit random but I'm well into boxing at the moment).

Then NY would be a lot cooler like you say in terms of culture.

Will post some pics.
 
if you're taking a trip around the world you're probably gonna find better beaches than LA right? also fyi there isn't really too much to see in hollywood
 
if you're taking a trip around the world you're probably gonna find better beaches than LA right? also fyi there isn't really too much to see in hollywood

yeah I suppose! One thing that was suggested was I could go to LA and drive up to Vegas but I probably would need a few weeks for that I guess. You're convincing me on NY though. Is there any difference in cost on the two places?

I want to stop somewhere in US, then move onto Fij for a week before touring Australia for a month, new zealand for a few weeks and South East Asia for 6 weeks (Thailand, Malaysia, Vietnam etc)
 
NY hands down rob

And how are you going to travel around the world on the cheap?
 
lol well you if you are throwing in vegas that's a whole other story. that def makes the voting a lot closer haha

as for cost: ny, vegas, and la are all expensive as shit so cost isn't really gonna help you differentiate between them
 
ny no question...la is meh, dirty, crimey, expensive, shallow.
SD is much nice and norcal is really where it is at.
if you chose the west coast i'd go with San Fran, or maybe seattle.
But NY is awesome, plenty to do but bring some loot cause it's not cheap
 
Thanks all. When I say cheap I mean staying in backpacker hostels, limiting drnking money to a couple of night a weeks and food to a standard 3 maybe 4 meals a day (gonna skin and bones by the end of it). It's something I've wanted to do for a while so going to get 2 jobs untl Christmas to save. I'm budgeting about £6000 for 4 months including a round the world ticket.

Definitely thinking NY now...vegas will probably be a bit pricey with all the money I'll lose gambling.
 
vegas is not necessairly a expensive place.
you can budget ball there for sure...it's the extras that start to cost
(hookers, blow, dice, etc)
 
be comfortable with roaches if youre goin a back-packer route in NY...tho the same is probably true in LA


also cheap eats in NY dont exist
 
I live in NY and this is the easiest question ever. LA is dump compared to NY. NYC is fucking amazing. Hit me up if you need places to go.
 
I live in NY and this is the easiest question ever. LA is dump compared to NY. NYC is fucking amazing. Hit me up if you need places to go.

unless you got the money to do exclusive shit i don't see a point in going out of your way to see LA.
plus nyc has so much more culture
 
Thanks all. When I say cheap I mean staying in backpacker hostels, limiting drnking money to a couple of night a weeks and food to a standard 3 maybe 4 meals a day (gonna skin and bones by the end of it). It's something I've wanted to do for a while so going to get 2 jobs untl Christmas to save. I'm budgeting about £6000 for 4 months including a round the world ticket.

Definitely thinking NY now...vegas will probably be a bit pricey with all the money I'll lose gambling.

This seems as if it will be a vacation to remember for sure. I myself would love to see the world -- though via smaller trips and not as cheap.

As for your original question of choosing between New York City or Los Angeles...

Speaking as someone who has lived in both cities, it's rather like comparing apples and oranges, as the two are so different from each other. I'm not saying that one is, overall, "better" than the other. Both have good things to offer their visitors and both have their drawbacks. They're both fascinating in their own ways. Some people prefer NYC for the reasons touched on above, but some (especially Europeans and others from older cities) prefer LA because it's so different from older cities. Each city really needs to be considered on its own terms and it really depends on what you're looking for. Plus, there are some things to consider.

It looks as if you're starting your trip in the middle of what would be the winter season here in the US. Do you mind exploring a city that may very well be under snow (I love New York, but sometimes the getting around in the snow can be a pain) or would you prefer a city where winter means temperatures in the very pleasant 70s (F) and little more extreme than some rain (that's basically LA in February)?

If you plan to drive from LA to Las Vegas I would also plan on spending at least a night in Vegas (not just a daytrip where you would drive there and back in one day); the drive takes too long for a daytrip. It's not something that can be done in just a couple hours, like driving, say, from New York to Philadelphia.

New York is, of course, one of the cultural capitals of the world and has more cultural venues than any other US city. LA, however, has many cultural venues that are very well regarded, too, so I definitely wouldn't discount LA based on that alone.

Another thing to consider is how to move around within either city. Public transportation in New York (especially Manhattan where you would spend most of your time) is cheap and relatively efficient using the subway. New York is also oriented toward pedestrians and getting around on foot is not only a wonderful way to experience the city, but in many instances, may very well be the most practical way. Manhattan's buses are generally slow, but cheap, clean and good for going short distances that are too long to walk (if that makes sense). An occasional, brief cab ride in Manhattan shouldn't bust your budget either.

Unlike New York, which basically has one huge, principal commercial "center" (Manhattan), Los Angeles is made up more of a patchwork quilt of smaller "centers" or districts, each with its own character and features (e.g., Downtown, Hollywood, Westwood, Venice, Santa Monica, Beverly Hills, West Hollywood, the Sunset Strip, etc.) often with some suburban-style distance between each. If you're limiting yourself to just one of these these smaller, relatively compact areas, walking could actually be relatively practical. However, to move from one such area to another and to otherwise move about practically and efficiently you would really need to drive a car (a rental, I would assume), with its attendant costs (rental fees, insurance, fuel and parking) or use one of the various taxicab services in LA (though hiring one is not as convenient as in NY and they tend to be more expensive because the distances tend to be much larger in sprawling LA than in compact NY). LA does have a very nice subway/train system but it serves a relatively limited area in the downtown area (it does extend through the center of Hollywood, though). LA's buses are almost as slow a NY's and are not recommended to travel long distances (though they can be good within the limits of individual districts of the city).

You can eat as cheaply or as expensively as you want in either city and both have cuisine from all over the world. It's a bit easier, I think, to find cuisine from anywhere in the world in New York (though it's never as good as it would be in the original country, of course), partly because you can take a stroll within many areas and happen upon such places. In any case, the food carts on the street are a cheap option, though they really do overcharge for what they provide (and I always wonder where the food comes from). A better option are the many delis and smaller, casual, cheap (indoor) restaurants and eateries to be found in virtually every neighborhood. Also, there are pizzerias everywhere (though, of course, they're not necessarily good for your figure -- just avoid the ones that overcharge; $8 for one slice of pizza is a ripoff).

There are cheap places in LA too, though you may have to hunt for them a little. Cafes and smaller eateries are an option. Pico Boulevard is supposed to be excellent for restaurants and non-American cuisine. There's always been an abundance of good and cheap Mexican cuisine in most LA neighborhoods, which is good if you like that type of food. You may also appreciate that LA, always conscious of appearances, has more health-food options than NYC does.

And both cities have plenty of cheap Chinese restaurants everywhere.

I'd like to have a better idea of what sorts of activities you would like to do. Are you going to stay mainly in cities? Or, do you also plan to see some natural wonders?

There are areas of natural beauty near both cities. Outside New York, parts of the Long Island shore are quite lovely, as is the New Jersey shore. If you have time to go to upstate New York, Niagra Falls is definitely worth a visit. On the other hand well-known beaches (Venice, Santa Monica, Malibu) and the Pacific shore line one edge of Los Angeles, which is otherwise ringed by picturesque hills, mountains and canyons with the desert not so very far away.

One more thing: It looks as if you're going to be spending a lot of time in Australia, Southeast Asia and other areas around the Pacific. In terms of airlines and travel, Los Angeles is the largest gateway between the US and points west in the Pacific and seems to be used more often than other US cities by transPacific travelers. I don't know where you're flying into the US from, but if you're going from the US directly to a destination located on or near the Pacific, it's quite possible your itinerary would include a stop at the Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) anyway, even if you choose New York.

Well, whatever city you choose, it'll be a memorable stop.

If you have any concerns about either city feel free to pm me.
 
This seems as if it will be a vacation to remember for sure. I myself would love to see the world -- though via smaller trips and not as cheap.

As for your original question of choosing between New York City or Los Angeles...

Speaking as someone who has lived in both cities, it's rather like comparing apples and oranges, as the two are so different from each other. I'm not saying that one is, overall, "better" than the other. Both have good things to offer their visitors and both have their drawbacks. They're both fascinating in their own ways. Some people prefer NYC for the reasons touched on above, but some (especially Europeans and others from older cities) prefer LA because it's so different from older cities. Each city really needs to be considered on its own terms and it really depends on what you're looking for. Plus, there are some things to consider.

It looks as if you're starting your trip in the middle of what would be the winter season here in the US. Do you mind exploring a city that may very well be under snow (I love New York, but sometimes the getting around in the snow can be a pain) or would you prefer a city where winter means temperatures in the very pleasant 70s (F) and little more extreme than some rain (that's basically LA in February)?

If you plan to drive from LA to Las Vegas I would also plan on spending at least a night in Vegas (not just a daytrip where you would drive there and back in one day); the drive takes too long for a daytrip. It's not something that can be done in just a couple hours, like driving, say, from New York to Philadelphia.

New York is, of course, one of the cultural capitals of the world and has more cultural venues than any other US city. LA, however, has many cultural venues that are very well regarded, too, so I definitely wouldn't discount LA based on that alone.

Another thing to consider is how to move around within either city. Public transportation in New York (especially Manhattan where you would spend most of your time) is cheap and relatively efficient using the subway. New York is also oriented toward pedestrians and getting around on foot is not only a wonderful way to experience the city, but in many instances, may very well be the most practical way. Manhattan's buses are generally slow, but cheap, clean and good for going short distances that are too long to walk (if that makes sense). An occasional, brief cab ride in Manhattan shouldn't bust your budget either.

Unlike New York, which basically has one huge, principal commercial "center" (Manhattan), Los Angeles is made up more of a patchwork quilt of smaller "centers" or districts, each with its own character and features (e.g., Downtown, Hollywood, Westwood, Venice, Santa Monica, Beverly Hills, West Hollywood, the Sunset Strip, etc.) often with some suburban-style distance between each. If you're limiting yourself to just one of these these smaller, relatively compact areas, walking could actually be relatively practical. However, to move from one such area to another and to otherwise move about practically and efficiently you would really need to drive a car (a rental, I would assume), with its attendant costs (rental fees, insurance, fuel and parking) or use one of the various taxicab services in LA (though hiring one is not as convenient as in NY and they tend to be more expensive because the distances tend to be much larger in sprawling LA than in compact NY). LA does have a very nice subway/train system but it serves a relatively limited area in the downtown area (it does extend through the center of Hollywood, though). LA's buses are almost as slow a NY's and are not recommended to travel long distances (though they can be good within the limits of individual districts of the city).

You can eat as cheaply or as expensively as you want in either city and both have cuisine from all over the world. It's a bit easier, I think, to find cuisine from anywhere in the world in New York (though it's never as good as it would be in the original country, of course), partly because you can take a stroll within many areas and happen upon such places. In any case, the food carts on the street are a cheap option, though they really do overcharge for what they provide (and I always wonder where the food comes from). A better option are the many delis and smaller, casual, cheap (indoor) restaurants and eateries to be found in virtually every neighborhood. Also, there are pizzerias everywhere (though, of course, they're not necessarily good for your figure -- just avoid the ones that overcharge; $8 for one slice of pizza is a ripoff).

There are cheap places in LA too, though you may have to hunt for them a little. Cafes and smaller eateries are an option. Pico Boulevard is supposed to be excellent for restaurants and non-American cuisine. There's always been an abundance of good and cheap Mexican cuisine in most LA neighborhoods, which is good if you like that type of food. You may also appreciate that LA, always conscious of appearances, has more health-food options than NYC does.

And both cities have plenty of cheap Chinese restaurants everywhere.

I'd like to have a better idea of what sorts of activities you would like to do. Are you going to stay mainly in cities? Or, do you also plan to see some natural wonders?

There are areas of natural beauty near both cities. Outside New York, parts of the Long Island shore are quite lovely, as is the New Jersey shore. If you have time to go to upstate New York, Niagra Falls is definitely worth a visit. On the other hand well-known beaches (Venice, Santa Monica, Malibu) and the Pacific shore line one edge of Los Angeles, which is otherwise ringed by picturesque hills, mountains and canyons with the desert not so very far away.

One more thing: It looks as if you're going to be spending a lot of time in Australia, Southeast Asia and other areas around the Pacific. In terms of airlines and travel, Los Angeles is the largest gateway between the US and points west in the Pacific and seems to be used more often than other US cities by transPacific travelers. I don't know where you're flying into the US from, but if you're going from the US directly to a destination located on or near the Pacific, it's quite possible your itinerary would include a stop at the Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) anyway, even if you choose New York.

Well, whatever city you choose, it'll be a memorable stop.

If you have any concerns about either city feel free to pm me.


Wow, didn't expect such a detailed guide but thanks bro!

Think you pretty much covered everything there, just gotta make up my mind now.

I don't know what I'd like to be doing yet to be honest. Probably a bit of sight seeing, one or two nights out (as cheap as i can make it for somewhere reasonable) and just wandering the city to see around I guess. It'll only be for a week, maybe two and no I don't mind if it's cold really. NY in the snow could be cool given that the rest of my trip is likely to be in pretty hot weather.

I always said that I'd want to do this sort of travel in smaller journeys (and I still hope to at some point in future) but I just got seriously fed up with the 9-5 and applied for a sabbatical. Because I work for the government, they're keen to save money on salary so let me go and said I'd still have a job when I came back (fingers crossed that remains the case!) Just need to save as much money as possible now so I can have a good few nights out along the way!!

Thanks again for the advice.
 
Tell me about it. One of my fears is that I'll come back and have to start from scratch.

Don't suppose anyone knows how to eat healthy on street food lol

You shouldnt have to start from scratch but its definetely going to set you back a good bit. I would guess it would take at least 6 months to regain whatever shape you lose.
 
It does get damn cold here in NY. Any other time I would choose NY. I would just stop off in LA for a day and see all the other great sites out west.
LA would be below other cities in Cali alone I'd wanna see.
 
Wow, didn't expect such a detailed guide but thanks bro!

Think you pretty much covered everything there, just gotta make up my mind now.

I don't know what I'd like to be doing yet to be honest. Probably a bit of sight seeing, one or two nights out (as cheap as i can make it for somewhere reasonable) and just wandering the city to see around I guess. It'll only be for a week, maybe two and no I don't mind if it's cold really. NY in the snow could be cool given that the rest of my trip is likely to be in pretty hot weather.

I always said that I'd want to do this sort of travel in smaller journeys (and I still hope to at some point in future) but I just got seriously fed up with the 9-5 and applied for a sabbatical. Because I work for the government, they're keen to save money on salary so let me go and said I'd still have a job when I came back (fingers crossed that remains the case!) Just need to save as much money as possible now so I can have a good few nights out along the way!!

Thanks again for the advice.

Definitely hear you about tiring of the 9 to 5 routine. There's a reason they call it a "grind." I sometimes dream of taking a sabbatical myself, though I don't know if I'd be allowed to where I work. And it would probably take me forever to save up enough money to take a gargantuan trip like that, so I do them in small, occasional doses.

Good for you that you can do that, then return to work. You'll be a better worker and, more importantly, a better person for it. Most people don't quite manage to do that.
 
L.a. l.a. big city of dreams
But everything in l.a. aint always what it seems
You might get fooled if you come from outta town
Cuz we comin from queens and gets down
 
Tell me about it. One of my fears is that I'll come back and have to start from scratch.

Don't suppose anyone knows how to eat healthy on street food lol

I'm not sure about healthy but try to maintain your protein intake where you can (although of course protein tends to be amongst the more expensive foods).

Some people tend to lose weight on trips away, others gain weight. Try to keep an eye on which your doing and adjust your caloric intake accordingly.
 
I live outside of center city Philly, 2 hours drive from NYC. I cannot emphasize enough:

90% of the time: THE WEATHER IS HORRENDOUS AROUND HERE FROM JANUARY TO MARCH!

Bear in mind, NY is a city that if it gets more than 12" of snow, it STOPS. You also risk getting socked in by snow or ice storms. I really, really would think long and hard if I was planning to visit NY in January. Very long, very hard.

If you were going to be hitting the US in May, I'd say NY without hesitation. While I wouldn't live there, it's a damned interesting city. But since you're talking about hitting NY in January, be aware you're rolling the dice weather wise. Think about taking Bino's advice, see San Fran and the redwoods.

Congratulations on your trip, sounds excellent!
 
I live outside of center city Philly, 2 hours drive from NYC. I cannot emphasize enough:

90% of the time: THE WEATHER IS HORRENDOUS AROUND HERE FROM JANUARY TO MARCH!

Bear in mind, NY is a city that if it gets more than 12" of snow, it STOPS. You also risk getting socked in by snow or ice storms. I really, really would think long and hard if I was planning to visit NY in January. Very long, very hard.

If you were going to be hitting the US in May, I'd say NY without hesitation. While I wouldn't live there, it's a damned interesting city. But since you're talking about hitting NY in January, be aware you're rolling the dice weather wise. Think about taking Bino's advice, see San Fran and the redwoods.

Congratulations on your trip, sounds excellent!

good advice, weather makes a huge difference on any trip and also on the lasting impressions of the places you visit. NY is even colder and more miserable than the UK in October-March in those months but both are great places when the weather is good (or semi-decent where the UK is concerned, we never have 'good' weather for that long).
 
good advice, weather makes a huge difference on any trip and also on the lasting impressions of the places you visit. NY is even colder and more miserable than the UK in October-March in those months but both are great places when the weather is good (or semi-decent where the UK is concerned, we never have 'good' weather for that long).
Skyscrapers amp up the wind, combined with humidity from the Hudson it's a wet cold that cuts right through you.

And dirty grey snow is a total downer :( NY streets after a snow storm rapidly become very ugly.

I mean, come Christmas time you've got some of the most striking window displays, the smell of chestnuts roasting and the crowds shopping. Total Christmas carol/nostalgia shit but after Christmas, blech.
 
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