Should GAYS be Quarantined?

[havoc]

ATTENTION: Read this Entire Thread and all its replies, not just a few, This will help: peace

Bottom Line: The Quarantine thing is a JOKE


This is a topic that comes up alot in my office area. My building has a very diverse collection of people from all geographical regions ranging from old to young, married to single, gay to normal, asian to rock thrower, whatever it may be many have said that "gays should be quarantined". Why? Not sure, guess they find it offensive. My personal thoughts on gay men is this: I find it quite disgusting. Being gay isnt normal, being gay really cant be justified in a positive and ethical manner, and I'm not even coming from a religious standpoint, lets eliminate religion totally. Lets talk science, 99% of anything reproduced stems from a male/female relation. From Humans to Plant Life, now I know there are certain bacterias, amoebas, etc etc that are asexual and all that bullshit, but I'm talking about shit that you dont need a microscope to see here folks. The earth would not even be here today if male/female reproduction type occurences didnt occur, being gay goes against science and even how the earth and its entire infrastructure was made up. So , should gays be quarantined? Heres my answer: Only gay men with extreme feminine qualities should and ugly lesbians as well. Thats it. Your thoughts?

 

[Bodhidogma]

Only gay men with extreme feminine qualities

these are the homosexuals that i hate. i dont mind that people are gay, who am i to judge what floats your boat? just dont hit on me and we will get along just fine.
but i LOATHE feminine gay men. hate them. with a passion.

 

[musclebrains]

Your thoughts?

Personally, I wish the stupid would be quarantined.

 

[musclebrains]

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these are the homosexuals that i hate. i dont mind that people are gay, who am i to judge what floats your boat? just dont hit on me and we will get along just fine.
but i LOATHE feminine gay men. hate them. with a passion.

Yet you idolize Jack Kerouac. Cognitive dissonance?

 

[MommaKin]

Images of ugly hairy dykes just popped into my head...
I'm gonna go puke now...

 

[musclebrains]

Images of ugly hairy dykes just popped into my head...
I'm gonna go puke now...

And of course they are YOUR thoughts.

 

[havoc]

Musclebrains- are you gay? If so, don't take this personal, however, I am correct about the science explanation.
Look, the board is slow, my handle is havoc, so havoc for today. peace

 

[WODIN]

I swear to GOD I'm having Dejavu out the ying yang today!!!

 

[havoc]

I swear to GOD I'm having Dejavu out the ying yang today!!!

Word to that.

 

[Kahn]

Quarantine Homosexuals. OK, Fine, next we can do it to stupid people because they compromise the collective intelligenceof the race(human). Then we can go for ugly people, I'm talking hideous, which really pisses me off, then fat people and then poor people. We can segregate by race to be sure ours/yours is pure and not contaminated. Inside the race seperation, we will have to seperate by religion to be safe from one another should they decide we are the wrong religion and want to remove us. Of course, you ave removed all handicapped by now, correct? Now that we are all happy and not offended, we have to agree on a common ground, like all of us having 110 electricity, a common currency, driving on the right side of the road.....you are right, we should start quarantining homosexuals, its all making sense now. Your co-workers aren't into well thought out conversations are they?

 

[musclebrains]

Musclebrains- are you gay? If so, don't take this personal, however, I am correct about the science explanation.
Look, the board is slow, my handle is havoc, so havoc for today. peace

There is no "science" in your explanation. It's frankly ignorant, and I have to think wilfully so. To suggest that something is "unnatural" or morally and ethically indefensible because it doesn't follow the norm is absurdity. Homosexuality occurs throughout the animal world, in any case, and homosexuality has been normative in some cultures. Your "science" is the same kind of one-sided "science" we get from creationists.

As for your suggestion, I not take this personally: Would you tell a Jew not to take personally some moron's suggestion that members of his religion be "quarantined"? Or would you feel better about your stance if you limited it to Jews who look Christian (like gays who act masculine by your standards)?

 

[Bodhidogma]

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Yet you idolize Jack Kerouac. Cognitive dissonance?

not really. i didnt say i condone all aspects of kerouacs life. i simply love the way the man writes and many of the ideas he had to share.
as i stated, i dont hate gay people, i just hate feminine men. BIG difference.

 

[musclebrains]

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not really. i didnt say i condone all aspects of kerouacs life. i simply love the way the man writes and many of the ideas he had to share.
as i stated, i dont hate gay people, i just hate feminine men. BIG difference.

Kerouac was quite effeminate, according to some descriptions of his behavior, and "trained" himself to act masculine.

Sorry, but as someone who's been engaged in American Buddhism almost 20 years, I find your unwillingness to question your prejudices an insult to the dharma. I hate hatred.

 

[havoc]

There is no "science" in your explanation. It's frankly ignorant, and I have to think wilfully so. To suggest that something is "unnatural" or morally and ethically indefensible because it doesn't follow the norm is absurdity. Homosexuality occurs throughout the animal world, in any case, and homosexuality has been normative in some cultures. Your "science" is the same kind of one-sided "science" we get from creationists.

As for your suggestion, I not take this personally: Would you tell a Jew not to take personally some moron's suggestion that members of his religion be "quarantined"? Or would you feel better about your stance if you limited it to Jews who look Christian (like gays who act masculine by your standards)?

Wow, didnt mean to strike such a nerve, but you are helping me pass time at work, I disagree with you though, science and fact isnt the "norm" its set in stone, its actual reality and truth hence my statement about science and reproduction, you cant disagree with that or even attempt, you yourself are a product of it.
Kahn, I stated in the beginning of my post the diverse state of morons I'm surrounded by, no need to reiterate.
This topic was to help spark some controversy, create havoc and help me pass time at work. Keep it coming. peace

 

[casavant]

Havoc:

Are you just playing devil's advocate here, or are these really your views? This doesn' t really seem to be in line with the impression I've gotten of you from other threads. What's up?

No, I don't think gays should be quarantined. I believe that in the vast majority of cases, gays are born having no more choice in their sexual preference than heterosexuals. I never woke up one day sometime in my early adolescence and decided, "I will be heterosexual. The very sight of a beautiful woman will light up the reward centers in my brain like a Christmas tree." I think it is the same for gays.

 

[talonracer]

Your right.........all the lesbians should be quaranteed in my house.

 

[The Shadow]

Havoc - you fat bastard. Why don't you go eat a bowl of Honey Bunches of Assholes and call over sum-hung-low-yung-guy for some ass-crack souflee'.

 

[havoc]

Casavant, you are correct, I'm just doing this for some controversy, I don't feel like this at all. I could care less, but I'll say it again whether or not I agree with everything I post my handle is havoc so havoc it is. peace

 

[musclebrains]

Wow, didnt mean to strike such a nerve, but you are helping me pass time at work, I disagree with you though, science and fact isnt the "norm" its set in stone, its actual reality and truth hence my statement about science and reproduction, you cant disagree with that or even attempt, you yourself are a product of it.
Kahn, I stated in the beginning of my post the diverse state of morons I'm surrounded by, no need to reiterate.
This topic was to help spark some controversy, create havoc and help me pass time at work. Keep it coming. peace

Yeah, really weird how you can suggest that people be effectively put in concentration camps -- "quarantined" -- and it "strikes a nerve" with them. WEIRD!!! I mean, gah, it sounds so sensible.

I already DID disagree with your bogus science. While reproduction occurs through intercourse between the genders, there is NOTHING in science to suggest that that norm makes those who deviate from it "morally or ethically" inferior. If you've got some evidence -- facts, as you say -- for that completely illogical conclusion, put it up or retract the statement.

Perhaps you don't understand my point? OR do I need to elaborate the many ways people can deviate from norms but aren't recommended to quarantine. I will start with the people who misrepresent science.

 

[Bodhidogma]

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Kerouac was quite effeminate, according to some descriptions of his behavior, and "trained" himself to act masculine.

Sorry, but as someone who's been engaged in American Buddhism almost 20 years, I find your unwillingness to question your prejudices an insult to the dharma. I hate hatred.

as i said, i dont condone all aspects of kerouac's life.

congrats on practicing Buddhism for so long, i hope i can make a claim if that nature in 20 yrs as well. perhaps in time i will grow to be more tolerant of effeminate individuals...but as for now, i dislike them. sorry to dissapoint.

 

[havoc]

Musclebrains, For me defining ethics in this case is going to relate to the "reproduction" components needed to actually reproduce, basically just throwing us back to my original statement that being gay makes it impossible to reproduce therefore a gay relationship is not in context with how the major majority of this universe operates and reproduces. See its how your looking at the word "ethics" here. I'm coming from the standpoint above since that was the correlation made in the beginning of this thread, you are not, so I have to respect where your coming from but still disagree.

 

[GinNJuice]

Nature has always had a way of bringing itself back into balance.


We will be dealing with an overpopulation problem soon..... maybe homosexuallity is nature's way of controlling this problem. (yes, I know that homosexuallity has been around since the dawn of time, but only lately has it become so widely accepted/practiced)

 

[havoc]

Nature has always had a way of bringing itself back into balance.


We will be dealing with an overpopulation problem soon..... maybe homosexuallity is nature's way of controlling this problem. (yes, I know that homosexuallity has been around since the dawn of time, but only lately has it become so widely accepted/practiced)

See, See, another valid point, anything goes. peace

 

[musclebrains]

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as i said, i dont condone all aspects of kerouac's life.

congrats on practicing Buddhism for so long, i hope i can make a claim if that nature in 20 yrs as well. perhaps in time i will grow to be more tolerant of effeminate individuals...but as for now, i dislike them. sorry to dissapoint.

I'm sure you're aware of the Buddhist principle that what we hate is our teacher.

It' s been noticed by nearly all social critics that the prejudice against effeminacy is another inflection of the hatred of women.

 

[musclebrains]

Musclebrains, For me defining ethics in this case is going to relate to the "reproduction" components needed to actually reproduce, basically just throwing us back to my original statement that being gay makes it impossible to reproduce therefore a gay relationship is not in context with how the major majority of this universe operates and reproduces. See its how your looking at the word "ethics" here. I'm coming from the standpoint above since that was the correlation made in the beginning of this thread, you are not, so I have to respect where your coming from but still disagree.

Pure double talk. Nice try.

I'll repeat myself for the third time: Deviation from the norm does not constitute an abridgement of ethics. And YOU tried to tie that to a scientific argument whose facts are not even supportable. You actually misrepresent the facts. I repeat: Homosexuality occurs throughout the animal world. It has been normative in several societies.

 

[havoc]

Dont think so. Pure truth, good attempt by you though. Its all in this thread. peace

 

[GinNJuice]

my handle is havoc, so havoc for today. peace

Oxymoron? J/K

 

[Captain_insano]

Put them in a concentration camp of some sort. Women excluded.

 

[musclebrains]

Dont think so. Pure truth, good attempt by you though. Its all in this thread. peace

LOL...Sorry to disappoint you but you don't hold the "pure truth." You're actually quite ignorant and anyone who reads your opening post who also knows anything about biology and homosexuality knows that is so. Moreover, your loony idea that deviation from a norm constitutes an ethical violation would make your own misrepresentation of science "ethically indefensible," recommending you to -- I don't know -- quarantine? And that doesn't even begin to address the poltical and philosophical implications of such a bizarrely conformist world view.

 

[havoc]

I agree, deviation doesnt constitue abridgement but I'll repeat myself , ethics is defined depending on the topic and whats involved, regardless if it started in the animal world, the ethics I speak of here relate solely to the fact that reproduction and a gay lifestyle is not possible, I have said this a few times now.

 

[Bodhidogma]

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It' s been noticed by nearly all social critics that the prejudice against effeminacy is another inflection of the hatred of women.

sorry, this does not apply to me.
did these social critics happen to be women? or effeminate men for that matter?

as well, it has become apparent to me that u are more enveloped in the dharma than i, so no need to continue preaching Buddhist teachings at me bro.

 

[musclebrains]

I agree, deviation doesnt constitue abridgement but I'll repeat myself , ethics is defined depending on the topic and whats involved, regardless if it started in the animal world, the ethics I speak of here relate solely to the fact that reproduction and a gay lifestyle is not possible, I have said this a few times now.

LOL...Okay, in your little ethical world, if a person paritcipates in noreproductive sex he's committing an ethical violation. I won't even bother to notice the many implications of that.

Get real.

 

[havoc]

LOL...Sorry to disappoint you but you don't hold the "pure truth." You're actually quite ignorant and anyone who reads your opening post who also knows anything about biology and homosexuality knows that is so. Moreover, your loony idea that deviation from a norm constitutes an ethical violation would make your own misrepresentation of science "ethically indefensible," recommending you to -- I don't know -- quarantine? And that doesn't even begin to address the poltical and philosophical implications of such a bizarrely conformist world view.

Ignorant? LOL, if ignorance is defined by posting a topic that I knew would spark some controversy and having said "that its just for shits and giggles" then ignorant I am by your definition. Anyone who know something about biology that disagrees with the fact that a gay lifestyle has no chance of reproduction which is my MAIN point here really does not know much about biology but maybe your definition or idea of someone who knows about biology is your own as well. You have mistaken me here as being serious.

 

[musclebrains]

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sorry, this does not apply to me.
did these social critics happen to be women? or effeminate men for that matter?

as well, it has become apparent to me that u are more enveloped in the dharma than i, so no need to continue preaching Buddhist teachings at me bro.

It seems logical. Effeminacy is acting like a woman, so it means female behavior is negatively regarded. It's something in the culture, not an individual choice. I mean,why is that any more unlikely an explanation than any other? What's your explanation for "hating" effeminacy?

I'm not preaching, but when I see someone representing the dharma, I feel comfortable engaging in that Tibetan practice called dharma-dueling.

 

[musclebrains]

Ignorant? LOL, if ignorance is defined by posting a topic that I knew would spark some controversy and having said "that its just for shits and giggles" then ignorant I am by your definition. Anyone who know something about biology that disagrees with the fact that a gay lifestyle has no chance of reproduction which is my MAIN point here really does not know much about biology but maybe your definition or idea of someone who knows about biology is your own as well. You have mistaken me here as being serious.

Bullshit. You still don't get it. Your main point is not that gays don't reproduce. It's that because they don't reproduce they are doing something unethical by LOVING one another and, in certain cases, according to your OWN statement, deserve quarantine.

If you want to play provocateur, I'm fine with it. I do it myself. But I don't play provocateur and then try to control the way people respond to me. You don't get to back out of the facts just because you need to play provocateur.

I have clients for the rest of the day. BYE.

 

[havoc]

Bullshit. You still don't get it. Your main point is not that gays don't reproduce. It's that because they don't reproduce they are doing something unethical by LOVING one another and, in certain cases, according to your OWN statement, deserve quarantine.

If you want to play provocateur, I'm fine with it. I do it myself. But I don't play provocateur and then try to control the way people respond to me. You don't get to back out of the facts just because you need to play provocateur.

I have clients for the rest of the day. BYE.

Holy Moses, never have I said once in this piece that "Loving is unethical regardless if your gay or not", and I am kidding about the quarantine thing, I have repeated this over and over, its a joke, for controversy, to help me pass time(which we have done for 45 minutes I might add, thank you). You are misreading me especially after I have explained it, bottom line, I'm not serious about the quarantine thing, this is cyberland, taking this shit in a personal manner is like a gay guy reproducing, just wont happen. Also, your not changing my mind, I'm not changing yours but I enjoyed this. Let it be known I have nothing against anyone, I'm a Rasta man with rastafari in the blood, dislike,hate, negativity doesnt exist for me, it just cant. Having said that. peace and for the remaining who read this, I am not serious.

 

[GinNJuice]

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It seems logical. Effeminacy is acting like a woman, so it means female behavior is negatively regarded. It's something in the culture, not an individual choice. I mean,why is that any more unlikely an explanation than any other? What's your explanation for "hating" effeminacy?

It's a very convenient explaination, however, I don't agree with it.

Like Bodhidogma (whom according to him, I'm a "fucking Idiot"), I dislike effeminate men. Trust me, I love women, what I dislike is the deception of trying to act like someone that they are not. I may be wrong, but I think that effeminate men are trying to 'act' like women in order to attract other men. (no, don't use the 'you hate them cause you're subconsciously attracted to them' bull shit)

I think people should be true to themselves.... and not try to act like something they are not.... they are men, not women..... If they want to suck dick, fine..... but do they have to act nelly just because of their sexual preference?

 

[spentagn]

havoc, I can't believe you're serious about this bullshit.

 

[havoc]

havoc, I can't believe you're serious about this bullshit.

Obviously you have not read any of this thead, except the initial statement, read it first , you wouldnt of replied like you did. Damn, your making me edit my initial post telling all to "READ" first, not just push the reply button. peace

 

[supersizeme]

i think the bottom line here is that the perpetuation our species is accomplished via intercourse between a man and woman. biologically speaking, anything that lives and dies without reproducing is a failure. women who are sterile, men who have weak or no swimmers in their nut, people who have taken vows of celibacy for their whole lives, and homosexuals are ALL biological failures. do they need to be quarantined because of it? nah. they are still people and can contribute to society in ways other than reproduction.
if this quarantine were to ever happen would havoc give anything to be in the room wearing nothing but pantyhose and wonder woman wrist bands? probably.
personally i don't mind that i share the planet with homosexuals in the sense that there's one less guy i have to compete for vagina for. go on with your anus violating ways, i'm a get up in some poon while you're taking care of that.

 

[havoc]

i think the bottom line here is that the perpetuation our species is accomplished via intercourse between a man and woman. biologically speaking, anything that lives and dies without reproducing is a failure. women who are sterile, men who have weak or no swimmers in their nut, people who have taken vows of celibacy for their whole lives, and homosexuals are ALL biological failures. do they need to be quarantined because of it? nah. they are still people and can contribute to society in ways other than reproduction.
if this quarantine were to ever happen would havoc give anything to be in the room wearing nothing but pantyhose and wonder woman wrist bands? probably.
personally i don't mind that i share the planet with homosexuals in the sense that there's one less guy i have to compete for vagina for. go on with your anus violating ways, i'm a get up in some poon while you're taking care of that.

Ok, you guys are not reading, the quarantine thing is not too be taken seriously but the fact that Supersizeme sells Ken dolls to local elementary school boys for extra cash or a 7 minute rim job and a pop tart is. OK? peace

 

[Bodhidogma]

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It's a very convenient explaination, however, I don't agree with it.

Like Bodhidogma (whom according to him, I'm a "fucking Idiot"), I dislike effeminate men. Trust me, I love women, what I dislike is the deception of trying to act like someone that they are not. I may be wrong, but I think that effeminate men are trying to 'act' like women in order to attract other men. (no, don't use the 'you hate them cause you're subconsciously attracted to them' bull shit)

I think people should be true to themselves.... and not try to act like something they are not.... they are men, not women..... If they want to suck dick, fine..... but do they have to act nelly just because of their sexual preference?

i could not have said this better myself.

GinNJuice - the "fucking idiot" incident was a misunderstanding. i was unaware that you were joking with your comment, hope u can accept my apologies bro. peace.

 

[spentagn]

Obviously you have not read any of this thead, except the initial statement, read it first , you wouldnt of replied like you did. Damn, your making me edit my initial post telling all to "READ" first, not just push the reply button. peace

Actually, I've read the entire thread. Parts of it more than once. I was being sarcastic. Didn't think I'd have to ever tell you to lighten up.

 

[GinNJuice]

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i could not have said this better myself.

GinNJuice - the "fucking idiot" incident was a misunderstanding. i was unaware that you were joking with your comment, hope u can accept my apologies bro. peace.

Accepted Bro

 

[havoc]

Spentagn- lighten up, I'm higher than a kite right now, I'm super chill, mabye my reply sounded rude, it wasnt meant to at all. peace

 

[spentagn]

Spentagn- lighten up, I'm higher than a kite right now, I'm super chill, mabye my reply sounded rude, it wasnt meant to at all. peace

And now you wanna bust out with ethnic slurs? Wait, nevermind. Peace herb man.

 

[GinNJuice]

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It's a very convenient explaination, however, I don't agree with it.

Like Bodhidogma (whom according to him, I'm a "fucking Idiot"), I dislike effeminate men. Trust me, I love women, what I dislike is the deception of trying to act like someone that they are not. I may be wrong, but I think that effeminate men are trying to 'act' like women in order to attract other men. (no, don't use the 'you hate them cause you're subconsciously attracted to them' bull shit)

I think people should be true to themselves.... and not try to act like something they are not.... they are men, not women..... If they want to suck dick, fine..... but do they have to act nelly just because of their sexual preference?

So.... Muslebrains....... Are you going to respond?

 

[john937]

I refuse to debate my right to existance.
We're here, we pay taxes, we vote.
Our votes and taxes count just as much as yours.
FUCK YOU !

 

[havoc]

I refuse to debate my right to existance.
We're here, we pay taxes, we vote.
Our votes and taxes count just as much as yours.
FUCK YOU !

I take it your gay?

Its a joke. Sorry to offend.

 

[spentagn]

I refuse to debate my right to existance.

Then you refuse to add any credibility to your claims. Noone asked for the termination of gays, you'll always exist.

We're here, we pay taxes, we vote.
Our votes and taxes count just as much as yours.

So do racists and bigots. Yet they debate their "right to existance." Seems they have one up on you.

FUCK YOU !

No, fuck you. Anyone not willing to debate, for whatever reason, represents no credibility. You have your rights, use them, or don't bitch when others do.

 

[Bull69]

I understand that it is a joke, but would you joke the same about Jews, Blacks, ect. If you did, many moderators would deem it necessary to delete the thread. I believe that nothing should be deleted or sensored. However, I do not believe so many would feel it would be acceptable, even as a joke, to use blacks or jews instead of homosexuals in this thread.

 

[havoc]

Bull 69, good points, I am sincerely just kidding, I actually have several clients, friends and relatives who are gay and they are as close to me as anyone, I will delete this if you want. peace

 

[john937]

This thread is no joke and it is offensive.
It's real hatred hiding behind the mask of joke.

 

[spentagn]

This thread is no joke and it is offensive.
It's real hatred hiding behind the mask of joke.

shut up, ok? How can you make such decisions about a person's intentions whom you don't even know?

 

[havoc]

John 69, it is a joke, yesterday on this board there was a gang of GAY threads with the word Gay in it , this was just a mocking type of thread with no serious intentions or a "mask behind the joke". peace

 

[Bull69]

Bull 69, good points, I am sincerely just kidding, I actually have several clients, friends and relatives who are gay and they are as close to me as anyone, I will delete this if you want. peace

Havoc,
I know you are kidding, and I sure as hell do not want you to delete it. I was just pointing out that there are many acceptable forms of prejudice. While it is not considered acceptable to descriminate against blacks or jews, it is acceptable by many to descriminate against homosexuals.

Havoc I am not accusing you of descrimination.

 

[musclebrains]

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So.... Muslebrains....... Are you going to respond?

Respond to what? You and Bodhi both said you simply disagree. My question was why misogyny is not as valid an explanation for hatred of effeminacy as any other. You never addressed my question.

I'm between clients, so I can't respond promptly.

 

[musclebrains]

John 69, it is a joke, yesterday on this board there was a gang of GAY threads with the word Gay in it , this was just a mocking type of thread with no serious intentions or a "mask behind the joke". peace

I think about half your intention was humorous, Havoc, and I sure as hell don't think gay people should be immune to spoofing. But you did take up an argument that gay people hear constantly.

 

[john937]

shut up, ok? How can you make such decisions about a person's intentions whom you don't even know?

If somebody slaps me I have the right to decide if it hurt or not.

 

[havoc]

I think about half your intention was humorous, Havoc, and I sure as hell don't think gay people should be immune to spoofing. But you did take up an argument that gay people hear constantly.

Look man, I mean no harm, let me take this time to sincerely apologize, I am sorry. Please accept. peace

 

[spentagn]

If somebody slaps me I have the right to decide if it hurt or not.

Noone slapped you. Noone singled you out. And since you refuse to debate, if it did hurt, wallow in your misery silently.

 

[musclebrains]

Noone slapped you. Noone singled you out. And since you refuse to debate, if it did hurt, wallow in your misery silently.

Huh? He's a member of the group that Havoc, intentionally or not, insulted. I think people would do well to learn that when they sterotype groups of people, the members of the group DO feel it personally.

Look at the endless ranting about poor white heterosexual males on this forum. They even felt like they had to organize. Has anyone personally singled out any of those folks?

 

[casavant]

Anybody that takes B.I.T.C.H.S. as anything more than tongue-in-cheek pseudo-misogyny needs to adjust their frequency nob.

 

[GinNJuice]

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My question was why misogyny is not as valid an explanation for hatred of effeminacy as any other. You never addressed my question.

You didn't ask a question, you said:

"It' s been noticed by nearly all social critics that the prejudice against effeminacy is another inflection of the hatred of women."

I disagreed and gave an alternate theroy, one which applies to me. So, was my point/theroy vaid?

.... also, can you quote more one 'social critic' who has made that statement?

 

[musclebrains]

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You didn't ask a question, you said:

"It' s been noticed by nearly all social critics that the prejudice against effeminacy is another inflection of the hatred of women."

I disagreed and gave an alternate theroy, one which applies to me. So, was my point/theroy vaid?

.... also, can you quote more one 'social critic' who has made that statement?

Inaccurate. I wrote this and it's certainly a question: "It seems logical. Effeminacy is acting like a woman, so it means female behavior is negatively regarded. It's something in the culture, not an individual choice. I mean,why is that any more unlikely an explanation than any other? What's your explanation for "hating" effeminacy? "

My question remains the same: Why is the explanation of misogyny any less credible than your own explanation, which boils down to a an essentialist argument that there is a certain way of behaving that is appropriate to one's genitals? In fact, there is enormous variation worldwide in the definition of masculine behavior.

No, I can't quote a social critic off the top of my head in this respect. But the observation, that misogyny and contempt for effeminate men both demonize female characteristics, is so ubiquitous I don't see what would be served by quoting.

 

[musclebrains]

Anybody that takes B.I.T.C.H.S. as anything more than tongue-in-cheek pseudo-misogyny needs to adjust their frequency nob.

i wasn't referring to BITCHS, Casa. I certainly know it's ironic.

 

[JohnnyO]

* munching popcorn *

 

[GinNJuice]

* munching popcorn *

You're back! Wazup Johnny?

 

[JohnnyO]

Just watching the drama unfold .. planning a little vacation in Port Isabelle this Thanksgiving weekend, nothing flashy.

 

[casavant]

Musclebrains:

My bad, bro. I wasn't trying to crack on you.

 

[spentagn]

Huh? He's a member of the group that Havoc, intentionally or not, insulted. I think people would do well to learn that when they sterotype groups of people, the members of the group DO feel it personally.

Look at the endless ranting about poor white heterosexual males on this forum. They even felt like they had to organize. Has anyone personally singled out any of those folks?

Point taken, but I am offended by your second paragraph.

 

[Wombat]

Considering that humans came from the ocean and we have not even touched 2/3 of what is really in the ocean. We are always finding diff-types of shit in there. That even baffels science. Who is to say. I think that we as humans will one day have the capability to become one gender. Male and female will not exist. Think about how much more we could accomplish as all being equal. It may sound like fiction but if it can be done, it will be done. There will be a search for a higher meaning in life. The fact that 2 people can love each other regardless of what is supposed to be the "norm" has to be some sort of insight to something greater. I think that is just common sense. Hell who am I kidding --dicks are for chicks

 

[JohnnyO]

* still munching popcorn -- no butter this time (too fattening) *

 

[casavant]

 

[smallmovesal]

this thread reeks of gay love. such a beautiful thing.

 

[dballer]

This thread is no joke and it is offensive.
It's real hatred hiding behind the mask of joke.

This is my vote for the pussy-boy comment of the thread.

 

[havoc]

Ahhh the good ol days.

 

[Fast Twitch Fiber]

Hmm.. I'm straight but I am frequently complimented about my physique by gay guys. I don't really know how to react to this. Should I thank them for the compliment or do I slug them in the jaw?

 

[casavant]

Ahhh the good ol days.

I hear ya. I got bored so I did a search on old posts. Some of the stuff I posted is weird to read now.

 

[havoc]

I hear ya. I got bored so I did a search on old posts. Some of the stuff I posted is weird to read now.

Right

 

[casavant]

Right

Yes. Yes indeed.

 

[john937]

Yup, just as offensive as the first time around.