Should 2nd cycle be deca or tren ace??? what do u think?

[Done_With_It]

im either going to run a test/deca/dbol cycle or a test/tren/dbol cycle....this is my outline

test 500mg/week 1-14
tren ace 50mg 3-4x week week 1-14
adex .5mg 4x week
prami .25mg ed week 1-14
dbol 40mg ed week 1-5

or

test 500mg/week 1-14
deca 300mg/week 1-14
adex .5mg 4x week week 1-14
prami .25mg ed week 1-14
dbol 40mg ed week 1-5

this will by my second cycle. first one was a test only cycle and went well. got a little bit of gyno or puffy nipples but im cool with it cuz im gona have the surgery at some point in the near future and have the glands removed. thanks!

 

[Done_With_It]

i could also bump the deca to 500mg/week if thats better than 300mg/week...any feedback? thanks!

 

[Done_With_It]

Bump

 

[stevesmi]

swap in proviron always with deca and swap in aromasin for arimidex

 

[Done_With_It]

swap in proviron always with deca and swap in aromasin for arimidex

curious why not use the adex? i have pharma grade so i know its real otherwise i would have to go with a chem research place and maybe get bunk aromasin. i feel like thats a chance im not willing to take cuz gyno sucks lol... curious why swap proviron for deca? what exactly is proviron? isnt it an oral? should i run some nac with that... thanks!

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

I prefer the deca option over tren for a second cycle. I think you should save tren and gain more experience with these compounds. You always want something to work up towards. With your deca dose, 300mg is good but you could bump to 400mg if you wanted. I would not go as high as 500mg though. Also, make sure you are using N2Guard since you are running dbol...it is extremely liver toxic.

do you have a proposed PCT lined up yet?

 

[muskate]

curious why not use the adex? i have pharma grade so i know its real otherwise i would have to go with a chem research place and maybe get bunk aromasin. i feel like thats a chance im not willing to take cuz gyno sucks lol... curious why swap proviron for deca? what exactly is proviron? isnt it an oral? should i run some nac with that... thanks!

Aromasin is a better AI choice then arimidex because it is a suicide AI so there will be no estrogen rebound when you discontinue usage.

Proviron is one of the few oral steroids that is not liver toxic.

 

[Done_With_It]

Aromasin is a better AI choice then arimidex because it is a suicide AI so there will be no estrogen rebound when you discontinue usage.

Proviron is one of the few oral steroids that is not liver toxic.

since im on TRT im not going to experience the estrogen rebound effect right? thats the information i was given.... true or false? thanks!

 

[Done_With_It]

Aromasin is a better AI choice then arimidex because it is a suicide AI so there will be no estrogen rebound when you discontinue usage.

Proviron is one of the few oral steroids that is not liver toxic.

what mg do i run proviron at? and for how long? thanks!

 

[stevesmi]

since im on TRT im not going to experience the estrogen rebound effect right? thats the information i was given.... true or false? thanks!

totally false.

you are running a moderate amount of testosterone which converts to estrogen in high amounts.

plus aromasin boosts IGF-1. its a superior drug to arimidex.. ask your doctor to switch you to aromasin and if he refuses then fire him for not keeping up with the times.

 

[Done_With_It]

I don't have a doctor I do it through an online trt clinic.... The best way to go cuz I can manipulate the medicsyios as needed... All i have is Adex right now. Hope this helps...

 

[Done_With_It]

so i put together my cycle...
let me know what you guys think...im in week 1 as of right now..

test 750mg/week week 1-14
deca 500mg/week week 1-14
mast 400mg/week week 1-14
adex .5mg 4xweek week 1-14
prami .25mg 4x week week 1-14
caber .25mg 4x week week 1-14
dbol 40mg ED week 1-5
NAC 1200mg ED week 1-14
Ipamorelin/sermorelin/ghrp2 ( was on this before and continuing )
GH Chinese generic 4iu ED, pharma 4iu ED (was on this before and continuing it)

 

[Done_With_It]

forgot to mention
hcg with b12 500 iu week/week 1-14 (was on this before and continuing)

 

[oxymoron]

It doesn't seem right to push the gyno risks and just plan the surgery as no way around it. And for a second cycle sheesh dude. IMO 500mg test and 300 deca is an ass kicker 2nd cycle even over 10wks. I did similar to that maybe my 4th cycle and I was excited with the gains.

 

[Done_With_It]

It doesn't seem right to push the gyno risks and just plan the surgery as no way around it. And for a second cycle sheesh dude. IMO 500mg test and 300 deca is an ass kicker 2nd cycle even over 10wks. I did similar to that maybe my 4th cycle and I was excited with the gains.

you ran a deca test cycle, how was it? did u put on water weight or quality weight? i know my cycle is a bit intense but alot of stuff r things im already on. i know eventually ill have the surgery but im not relying on it by upping my test dose. i was just watching bostin loyd and he was saying he runs test at 1gram to 1.5grams of test during cycle and 750 is low. i was just following my physique idol....lol how many cycles have u ran?

 

[Done_With_It]

Bump

 

[oxymoron]

you ran a deca test cycle, how was it? did u put on water weight or quality weight? i know my cycle is a bit intense but alot of stuff r things im already on. i know eventually ill have the surgery but im not relying on it by upping my test dose. i was just watching bostin loyd and he was saying he runs test at 1gram to 1.5grams of test during cycle and 750 is low. i was just following my physique idol....lol how many cycles have u ran?

I'll take a stab at it and say I did 10 cycles over 10 - 11yrs. A couple years with 2 cycles and a couple in their I stayed off, maybe did some sarms. I did put on some water weight but it wasn't too bad with 10+ lbs of quality muscle. That test and deca cycle was probably my 2nd favorite ever and it was a close second to the first time I ran tren. I actually did a deca only cycle later on and it went well also although stupid lookin back on it considering the gyno risk. Inmy opinion, Deca is one hell of a muscle builder.

 

[Done_With_It]

I'll take a stab at it and say I did 10 cycles over 10 - 11yrs. A couple years with 2 cycles and a couple in their I stayed off, maybe did some sarms. I did put on some water weight but it wasn't too bad with 10+ lbs of quality muscle. That test and deca cycle was probably my 2nd favorite ever and it was a close second to the first time I ran tren. I actually did a deca only cycle later on and it went well also although stupid lookin back on it considering the gyno risk. Inmy opinion, Deca is one hell of a muscle builder.

Wow you have a lot of experience... Thanks for sharing your story man... Appreciate the read. I'm really hoping. The deca allows me to put on quality lbs.... I know my cycle is a bit intense but I'm managing. The only side I have is difficulty falling. Asleep.... Takes me a little longer than. Normal to fall asleep...I should be alright though and hopefully it passes...