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I hear conflicting views on this site as far as acting times. I always say that d-bol kicks in by day 3-4 for me.......tren always seems to kick in fast as well.
 
It is tough to respond without stats and background because reaction to aas can be very dependant on that. Some raw beginners can get growth with one at a low dosage.

IMO it takes almost 2 weeks for a person to even begin to see a muscle building reaction to even the strongest chems.

Then there are safety concerns, such as side effects ... what a person will, can and should tolerate.

I'm old fashion and usually default to dbol+deca+test p at a reasonable weekly total of 300 to 400 mg. Because of extended half lives, the guy would see gains even after 6 weeks.

You did not ask about anti-e's or pct. Even a short cycle needs this in the plan.
 
pct he should be fine with nolva for 3-4weeks should he not? anti-e's dono alot about them still to find that out..

say he done
D-bol...25mg ed 4weeks
and prop for the 6weeks what MG of prop would be best 2-300?
 
The answer would be yes, but now it is most imperative that anti-e and pct be in the plan. pct is much more than just nolva.

I suggest that some research be done on anti-e's and pct. Use the Search or surf the Steroid postings for these topics and read. It could be very harmful to do a cycle without full understanding of these two components.

I hope you have read the stickies. A lot of info is available in them too.
 
the ultimate shortie
100mg prop eod weeks 1-6
50-75 mg tren ed weeks 1-5
30-40 mg dbol weeks 1-3
your choice of ai throught the cycle
this should yeild nice results in my opinion
 
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