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psychedout said:
I have detailed tests done and I am in much better shape than you; I think 3/4 is an overestimate by far. 2/5th's I could believe.

Only thing I ever have had a problem with is cholesterol, and I seem to winning that battle thanks to very high fibre diet, cardio, and polisocanol. My liver tests have always come back fine -- even after 3 months of accutane with some dianbol at the beginning.

Jkurz, I suspect something with your liver is genetic. Some kinda of predisposition to problems or something. Your oral use is very small, and creatine and b-12 do nothing to the liver; and if I remember correctyl, you haven't used any AAS period in over a year.

Guys like galaxy use 100mg of dbol for 6 weeks and never have a problem in their bloodwork. Same with needsize.

You are in much better shape than me???? I'm FINE.......maybe its genetic maybe it's not..........everything goes through the liver, it could be anything and I've never taken an oral aside from clomid and nolv........it's all good.....REMEMEBER THIS WAS JUST A GUESS ON HER PART.....AN INTITIAL SCREENING WITH my low test scores..........thats it...........
 
It will only reverse should you not continue to rip it appart faster than it can repair itself. Hence the no dbol for now.

But yeah, people on here need to make sure they take care of themselves and monitor their health. It might sometimes be appealing to play human chemistry set but you only have one body.
 
JKurz1 said:
Just got back from the hemotologist.......she says my low test levels, low wbc was due to liver damage prob. from supplement abuse (ie. excessive b-12, c, a, creatine, etc...) couple with my aas use a few years ago, andro, etc. Good news is it's not fatal, and good news is Im not shut down......bad news is, I got a bunch of gear that Im not sure what to do with..........what would you do?


I would move the gear to someone worthy's dresser drawer.. I have paypal :) j/k
 
It's just gonna be mild cycles from here on out.........300-400mg of test, 300mg eq, maybe some winny..........no clomid..........just trib..........
 
Madcow2 said:
It will only reverse should you not continue to rip it appart faster than it can repair itself. Hence the no dbol for now.

But yeah, people on here need to make sure they take care of themselves and monitor their health. It might sometimes be appealing to play human chemistry set but you only have one body.
NO DBOL FOR NOW.........plain and simple...........nothing for a few weeks anyways.....just some good milk thistle...........
 
JKurz1 said:
You are in much better shape than me???? I'm FINE.......maybe its genetic maybe it's not..........everything goes through the liver, it could be anything and I've never taken an oral aside from clomid and nolv........it's all good.....REMEMEBER THIS WAS JUST A GUESS ON HER PART.....AN INTITIAL SCREENING WITH my low test scores..........thats it...........

In terms of health, yeah, I'd bet I am, but who cares, thats not the point of this thread. I'm young and should be in good health.

Clomid and nolva also are not liver toxic. Nothing to worry about there.

I can't believe you are speculating on a guess. Seems like a pretty far fetched guess. Low test scores is more about LH, FSH function, how much SHGB your body produces, overtraining (both weights and cardio), zinc defecits, etc.

Doesn't your regular bloodwork include liver values? Strange that it wouldn't -- everyone's does, even regular joes who just go for their yearly bloodwork.
 
yes, my liver values were elevated and have since come down to normal.......YES, she's just speculating.....not sure yet........took more blood..........I am 100% confident it's from cardio 7 days a week, training 6 days a week, and moderate calories.........sometimes reduced.......and a little marrry juannnaaa here and there....
 
JKurz1 said:
yes, my liver values were elevated and have since come down to normal.......YES, she's just speculating.....not sure yet........took more blood..........I am 100% confident it's from cardio 7 days a week, training 6 days a week, and moderate calories.........sometimes reduced.......and a little marrry juannnaaa here and there....

Well, my best advice is to not to anything to hastily until you know what is going on for sure.
 
why would you ever go back on 17aa's? that seems silly to me..

get on a good liver stack NOW and then get retested.. if you are worried i would go see a specialist..
 
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