Shingitai Jiujitsu vs. Brazilian Jiujitsu?

[jwwpua]

What are the similaries and differences?

I'm taking "Beginning Jiujitsu" in college and he teaches Shingitai jiujitsu as a self-defense course. Next semester I'll be in the "Advanced Jiujitsu" (which he said is much more than basic self defense).

How does this form compare to BJJ? (which seems to be the most popular form from what I've heard)

Thanks

 

[Jacob Creutzfeldt]

Is this the form of jiu-jitsu that Michael DiPasquale teaches? From what I can tell it is based on shotokan karate and judo. some of the takedowns, arm baring, and chokes may be similar to BJJ. It seems to be very different in the sense that it is a 'lifestyle' rather than a 'combat style' as it may be spiritually based in Zen Buddhism. I'm not totally sure of this though.

 

[jwwpua]

Is this the form of jiu-jitsu that Michael DiPasquale teaches? From what I can tell it is based on shotokan karate and judo. some of the takedowns, arm baring, and chokes may be similar to BJJ. It seems to be very different in the sense that it is a 'lifestyle' rather than a 'combat style' as it may be spiritually based in Zen Buddhism. I'm not totally sure of this though.

I'm not real sure. We haven't done anything related to karate though. And when they show us a takedown or throw, they sometimes show us the "judo form" of it as well, just for our own knowledge. But he teaches us the "nasty fighting" (as he sometimes calls it) because he is preparing us for survival, not scoring points (like in judo).

Anyone else know anything about it?

 

[Judo Tom]

that sounds real cool.. if you dont mind keep a thread going about what you are learning.. i can point out some good links for you about throws if you are interested.

can you tell us anything youve learned so far?

good luck and have fun

 

[jwwpua]

We've learned some wrist locks like kote gaeshi, kote dori, and ura kote. Also last week we worked on some pins because he said it's important to learn how to shift your weight around and control the opponent. We did hon kesa gatame (scarf hold), Kata gatame (shoulder hold), Kuzure yoko shiho gatame (reverse side four quarters hold), Ushiro kesa gatame (reverse scarf hold), kami shiho gatame (upper four corners or smothering hold), Yoko shiho gatame (side four corners hold), Mune gatame (chest hold), and Tate shiho gatame (lengthwise four corners hold).

Besides those, we've learned a couple throws and basic punching/kicking/blocking.

Oh and please post the links you have, I'd appreciate it.

 

[Billyd1]

True story,
Traditional black belt jiu jutsu instructor loses students to new BJJ school. Said instructor wants to know why this is happening. Black belt instructor shows up to school one night, in his kimono, with his beautiful black belt. After class, black belt instructor "rolls" with some of the BJJ Students. Long story shorter, he is tapped by white belts and the purple belt BJJ instructor tapped him 3+ times in a 3 min roll. Black belt instructor bows out, says thank you, compliments the purplbe belt on his technique , leaves. I hear he no longer teaches "jiu jutsu". I kind of feel bad for him, maybe he should learn some BJJ, I am sure he would advance quickly seeing as he was such a knowledgeable instructor, , hell, maybe he could make blue belt in a year.
Again, true story, I was there.

 

[XBiker]

True story,
Traditional black belt jiu jutsu instructor loses students to new BJJ school. Said instructor wants to know why this is happening. Black belt instructor shows up to school one night, in his kimono, with his beautiful black belt. After class, black belt instructor "rolls" with some of the BJJ Students. Long story shorter, he is tapped by white belts and the purple belt BJJ instructor tapped him 3+ times in a 3 min roll. Black belt instructor bows out, says thank you, compliments the purplbe belt on his technique , leaves. I hear he no longer teaches "jiu jutsu". I kind of feel bad for him, maybe he should learn some BJJ, I am sure he would advance quickly seeing as he was such a knowledgeable instructor, , hell, maybe he could make blue belt in a year.
Again, true story, I was there.

BJJ is no frills grappling.

IMO, it's like taking a traditional striking art student (TKD, Karate) and putting them up against a kick/thai boxer.

Traditional skills are great to learn, but many of the modified forms focus on the truly effective technique(s) and leave much of the "artsy" parts behind.