Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below ...now that im gonna be comin off my cycle in a few weeks, which means no going out, stayin in, feelin embarassed about the way i look until i gotta wait another 12 weeks to do a cycle again. any of you get this way? shit id rather stay on this shit forever and die soon then come off. just conversation here.
severe depression.....
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Stacemranger
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Man, it's these kinds of attitudes that get steroids a bad rep. Get over it man and act like you're normal while not "on" so you don't give us all a bad name when you kill yourself from depression.
Stacemranger
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They would probably put you on the Jane Pauley show. I fucking hate her.
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Mr.X
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markshark said:
severe depression can be caused by hormonal imbalances, have you had your blood work done? and talked to a doctor about your depression?
azul said:
nolvadex 20mg/day for 4 weeks and then just 60X0. and its not scenerios like this that give steroids a bad rap. never said i was gonna kill myself, i just get depressed as shit and dont leave my place for 12 weeks. i was just wondering if anyone else goes through the same shit.
X Man said:
i was on deca for 8, test for 12, then 8 weeks off with like 3 weeks of 20mg nolva/day and not being able to eat as much because i was working over christmas break 8 hours a day 6 days a week. i dont know how to do effective pct and am afraid to ask otherwise ill get flamed out the ass on this board for being a "fucking idiot newbie" and get 15 bombs, kicked off the board, and have anthrax sent to my house.
markshark said:
Bro, you're not gonna get flamed for asking questions, you're just gonna get flamed for being a cocky SOB.
Now, regarding PCT, go here: http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=81
I'd recommend a week of nolva at 40mg, 3-4 weeks at 20mg. Throw in 50mg of clomid for 2-4 weeks as well, and 10,000 IU of HCG divided into 10 shots e2d starting on day 1 of PCT.
Everybody has different PCT styles (some might do HCG before 'official' PCT even starts), but this protocol's worked well for me before.
ksbst9mm
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markshark said:
personally i do small dosage cycles, keep a good diet and work my ass off. i don't depressed or any of that shit, but then again i have never taken more then 500 mg of test, and i only did that once. and when i'm off i work harder, do proper pct, and eat right, sleep well.
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glennds
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some day there may be drug treatment centers for guys addicted to steroids. maybe there already are. after being on EF for a few years, and experiencing the ups and down of being on and off, seems AAS are as addicitive as rec drugs.
mark you depression was probably there before you started using steroids. sometimes you gotta dig deeper. maybe see a therapist, talk it out.
mark you depression was probably there before you started using steroids. sometimes you gotta dig deeper. maybe see a therapist, talk it out.
Bro, it's not that bad! You probly still look better then 80-90% of the general population. You should never let drugs (no matter what they are) dictate your quality of life. Take a step back and look at the big picture to see whats really important. Hit the gym hard, eat right, get your rest and you'll do fine. Stress can be very catabolic 
M18
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that pct may work fine for some people but it seems light for coming off of deca... i took clomid 150mgs ed and nolva 40mgs ed for 6 weeks....markshark said:
im def picking up some hcg for when i get off this clen.... personally bro u gotta plan out that pct better... i came off at a time when i knew i could eat right, lift the right amount and sleep 9-11 hours a night.... my boy didnt
stayed on for 14 weeks..then came off when he couldnt eat right, or sleep as well, hes lost all of his weight, a chunk of his size, he got sick during his time too because he was drinking 2 nights a week...
it sucks coming off no matter what, but if time things out right it may not be soo bad.
trust me i know what ur talking about so i cn relate...just next time you come off make sure u go ur pct overed from all aspect because i did and trust me it helps
schneiderc2004
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There's no reason to feel depressed! I know it's easy for me to just say it but unless you want to be on cycle 365 days a yr, I would think your body won't handle it. I personally suffer from depression, and I noticed when I finish a cycle, I ger a rebound. Try 5-htp, a naturan supplement for depression. It works for me. 
i use to plan my pct around being home for break,....
i knew during winter break i was
working 8 hour days at an easy job so i could eat all day long
liting in a good gym
eating amazing food in high quantities---for free
not drinking at all and no peer pressure to drink--not that i did a lot on cycle
this is what ive learned the hard way:
1.eating makes the cycle not the juice
2. make sure you pct enviornment i.e. sleep,eating,pct drugs,protein powder,liting routines, are all perfect for when u come off, because how much u gained mean shit if u loose it all and become depressed...
-- now i know people are going to say on cycle everything should be perfect--which is correct, but ur body can recover better on juice so missing that 600 calorie weight gainer shake may not kill u...but off cycle u need every calorie u can get
that just my humble opinion many may not agree but thats my straight forward answer
i knew during winter break i was
working 8 hour days at an easy job so i could eat all day long
liting in a good gym
eating amazing food in high quantities---for free
not drinking at all and no peer pressure to drink--not that i did a lot on cycle
this is what ive learned the hard way:
1.eating makes the cycle not the juice
2. make sure you pct enviornment i.e. sleep,eating,pct drugs,protein powder,liting routines, are all perfect for when u come off, because how much u gained mean shit if u loose it all and become depressed...
-- now i know people are going to say on cycle everything should be perfect--which is correct, but ur body can recover better on juice so missing that 600 calorie weight gainer shake may not kill u...but off cycle u need every calorie u can get
that just my humble opinion many may not agree but thats my straight forward answer
I take 20mgs of lexapro and 50mgs of trazadone. Its just enuff for me and i get no sides like when i was on effexor......U know, if you dont care about natural test you could stay on a hrt dose with no problems and maintain quite well? Just a thought. But yeah, coming off sucks ass.
Are there any studies with steroids effecting your serotonin levels? Cus im going to guess that they do.
Are there any studies with steroids effecting your serotonin levels? Cus im going to guess that they do.
i think we are going to see markshark on that show intervention..."my name is markshark M-A-R-K-S-H-A-R-K"
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glennds said:
I hear ya man. For me, I honestly forget how good it feels to be on gear. I have done 4 cycles including the one I currently am on in the last 6 years.
I smoke weed on a regular basis. I also use various other "recreational" drugs from time to time. But none of those make me feel nearly as good as I feel overall when Im on gear.
Recreational drugs give me obviously an instant high, that is usually short-lived in duration. However gear on the other hand... it gives me such an overall better feeling about myself for... shit, 4 months at a time?! I'll take that kinda high any day over anything else...
GUESS
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newbiebynature said:
Don't be an ass man, the guy is asking a serious question, I'm guessing he wasn't as prepared as he should of been before starting but now he needs help. Not flammin' ya just sayin'!
I get the same way just not as bad. I think it's a combination of not having all the benefits of what the gear offers after you come off. The pumps, the stength, the look, the gains and the over all feeling. Put it this way, you look better after coming off then when you started, so keep your head up man we all get this way to certain degrees.
dude im not joking that is some serious shit...if you cant leave your house for 12 weeks just because your not "on"...you are fucked...its actually kinda scary
Why would you be embarressed about how you look? If you do PCT and keep eating and training you should keep a good amount of your gains. And I guarantee you that if you've been lifting and juicing for a while, the physique you have when your "off" is still 10 times better than 99 out of 100 guys out there. I'm willing to bet that the only person who will even notice your off is you...people are their own worse critics.
Keep your head up bro. Your so money and you don't even know it!
Keep your head up bro. Your so money and you don't even know it!
fbodyguy02
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Depression is commmon among AS users. I get depressed at the end of my cycle too. Like Mr. X said it's b/c of hormones changes. Mark Shark just has it more severe. Stick in there bro. Continue your PCT, continue working out, and continue eating. Focus on maintaing your gains and hopefully your depression will subside when your natural test production bounces back. But if you think you are NOT going to be able to do this, and hide in your house for the next 12 weeks, then go see professional help. Depression is a nasty thing to have. Best of Luck!
rykertest
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I went back and read your older posts markshark and I see a trend here. You REALLY need to stop posting on here looking for advice and seek PROFESSIONAL help. A lot of your posts indicate some SERIOUS mental issues that won't be resolved or helped on a message board.
If any of you guys take the time ot read his older stuff, you will see what I mean. Markshark, seek some serious mental help.
If any of you guys take the time ot read his older stuff, you will see what I mean. Markshark, seek some serious mental help.
Quiltie
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To answer your question Mark; Yes, coming off can be a little depressing. But it was a hell of alot more depressing before the advances in PCT protocol, in the days when you pretty much would lose most of your hard-earned gains to shut down nuts and high estrogen levels. If you're doing it right, there's no reason to be depressed. Perhaps you should explore the possibility that there's an alternate reason for why you are feeling the way you do, identify the problem.
galaxy said:
good point:
During anabolic/androgenic steroid cycles many essential amino acids that are targeted for the brain, which assist in the formation of neuro-transmitters, an example: epinephrine and norepinephrine, serotonin and cholecystokinin) are inhibited or blocked totally.
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