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Most likely, thats what we call estrogen rebound. Its not totally uncommon. I'd suggest letrozole at 2.5mg/ed for atleast 7 days. I would also continue at 1mg/ed for the next week or two. Go by how you feel and the progression of the lump.
Warning: This will most likely effect your sex drive. A small amount of estrogen is needed to maintain a good sex drive, and the letrozole is gonna totally wipe out all the estrogen you have. You should return to normal a wk or two after stopping the letro. Consider getting some cialis.
Good luck bro, gyno can be a bitch.
Chris
Warning: This will most likely effect your sex drive. A small amount of estrogen is needed to maintain a good sex drive, and the letrozole is gonna totally wipe out all the estrogen you have. You should return to normal a wk or two after stopping the letro. Consider getting some cialis.
Good luck bro, gyno can be a bitch.
Chris
mrribbit
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Actually I think this sounds more like a prolactin level issue considering you were using tren. I'm no doctor but you should always have the correct anti-e on hand as well casaber (spelling?) for the prolactin from the tren. Watch this closely bro and keep asking questions. Good luck!!
Be careful when you say this. Progesterone induced gyno has never been proven to even exist. I already considered this and the fact that he didn't have any gyno issues during cycle tells me that its not prolactin (if it exists).
mrribbit
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I know it's a rare thing but prolactin side effects maybe not called gyno have been proven before. Yeah it's strange that he didn't have any sides while on. I would say letro but that alone is strong as hell. If it were me and I was facing the same gyno scare you are, I would try the letro for only a few days and then move on to a doc because at least for me gyno is something I DON'T want to deal with.
mrribbit
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If you do decide to see a doc, It would be a good idea to use one that you will pay cash for so that it will not go through your insurance, if you in fact have private insurance. If you have a group policy (i.e. - from your employer) you can go to the doc as usual and it will be covered. I always use a cash doc for juice issues. Sometimes it gets pricey but this is what you have to always be prepared for when you use aas. It always good to have the medical back-up plan.
while you are waiting for the real drugs to get to you. or if you are just waiting for estro. to calm down i would try this. supliments. thats right i am sure every one is going to bash me here. i had gyno from the test p cycle i just finished. and i cured it with 6-oxo and novadex xt i took 4 caps of each 2 times per day spread out the best i could. in other words between the 2 of them i was taking 4 pills 4 times daily. it worked in about 1 wk. my case was mild.
Start it until I can get my hands on some real stuff?
i cant tell you if you should stop or not once you get the real stuff. but to starn now definately wont hurt. it may cure your problem and you could save the stuff for next time. i wouldnt piss any time away though. there are also some foods that there are claims about them helping. portabella mushrooms and radishes are 2 i remember. i also ate them every day but i wonder if they did anything or not.
Damn, alright, heading to GNC to get some shit... ugh!
mrribbit
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LiguiFem from AG is quality stuff but I think you should ask Primordial Performance for advice as to using the sustain that you have. I don't think it would help but I would ask him as he is a very knowledgeable person.
mrribbit
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Yeah bro it looks good to someone who definately needs it. Like I said, send primordial performance a pm or maybe he will be nice enough to help out here. I wouldn't tell anyone to use femara who didn't need it as it is VERY strong stuff.
I sent Pp a pm so he should help out soon.
So I hear, hence the reason I picked up the Cialis!!! I was told to run the Letro 2.5mg/day for one week then 1mg for the next week or until the lump is gone...
mrribbit
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Very well bro. I would wait to hear with Pp has to say though. Alot of bros have to get out of the habit of using one drug to counteract the others sides. Its "risky business" if you think about it.
Right. I'd love to hear more input from some of the other guys on the board that have experience with this...maybe they could shed some more light on this topic. I appreciate all the advice so far though!
mrribbit
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Np bro. I remember when I was new here. Around that time, it was good bros like Needto......who were quick to help with any question I had even if I asked it serveral times in different ways. I'm not going to try to be a know it all now so thats why I think Pp can help because I know he has done extensive research on ancilary's and pct's. Good luck bro!
First of all, it’s hard to diagnose these issues unless I can see it. Do you have pics?
It could be primarily lipomastia and in this case reduction of body fat would be the real fix for the problem. [which would also help reverse gynacomastia by reducing aromatase tissue]
Small sensitive ‘peas’ will go away by reducing estrogen, progestin, and progesterone influence. Vitex and letrozol will both work for this. But, this will only be a temporary fix, and you will need to pay careful attention to what you cycle in the future.
For the next cycle you should probably avoid Deca or Tren and stick with non-aromatizing AAS’s such as masteron, primo or maybe low doses of EQ or Test.
Good luck bro… and stop touching it… it makes it worse.
-Pp
It could be primarily lipomastia and in this case reduction of body fat would be the real fix for the problem. [which would also help reverse gynacomastia by reducing aromatase tissue]
Small sensitive ‘peas’ will go away by reducing estrogen, progestin, and progesterone influence. Vitex and letrozol will both work for this. But, this will only be a temporary fix, and you will need to pay careful attention to what you cycle in the future.
For the next cycle you should probably avoid Deca or Tren and stick with non-aromatizing AAS’s such as masteron, primo or maybe low doses of EQ or Test.
Good luck bro… and stop touching it… it makes it worse.
-Pp
mrribbit
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Yeah resist the urge to rub them. C'mon u know you wanna. Ahh I'm sorry but I couldn't resist.
I appreciate all the input guys. I'm going to run some Letro/Nolvadex and hope it takes care of it. My next cycle was going to be Monsterdrol/Dermacrine. I should be fine with those no?
Whats the report of estrogenic/progesterogenic activity on the Monsterdrol? Anyone reporting gyno?
-Pp
No one has reported anything that I can see....
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