Serious question about (cough) "blood type diet"

[staw]

Thanks for the cut and paste info. Will try to post some of the articles I found this evening. Might take me a while to figure it out.

Great post by the way, I have been curious about this diet for some time.

 

[rez]

What blood type are you rez? O? JJ - that's interesting - I was wondering if you could be O, since low (ish) carb and no wheat is what he recommends for O's, and you've said many times that you do much better on low carb .... I'm O too, and was fairly put out by his recommendations, since eating a lot of free range meat, lots of fish and low carb is anathema to this veg-head He also says too much dairy isn't such a great idea for O's, but that soy protein is just fine. And that we do very well on lots of intense exercise. As for this last, well, I've never felt better than I have since starting weight training, but then again, who doesn't?

yes im O blood type. at the time i was a veg-head, went to my natropath who said i should start eating red meat - the thought was awful, but i have started eating chicken and red meat ( not everyday, but maybe once a week), and it definetly agrees with me. Im also on low carb and low dairy - which also agrees with me.
the meat and vegies on this diet (or anyy diet for me) should be slow cooked - eg. ox-tail soup, not a steak on the bbq.
the iron is very important - and i havent had a period in 2 months, so hopefully including red meat might help bring it back - dont know, but its worth a try

 

[SteelWeaver]

LMAO! Very nice link MS! You really DO have a knack for web searches. "Someone talk some science to me please!" That guy's funny! Thanks very much - I don't know enough about cell surface proteins etc. etc. yet to have more than a hunch about nonsense when I see it, but I do admit that his recommendations for food choices ARE healthier than the average Western diet. I suppose the average westerner WOULD notice great improvements in energy levels and so on by simply following some of his guidelines.

But I already eat that clean ... I'm just on a bit of a macro/food choice tweaking drive at the mo, to see how well I can optimise things.

No harm in having a look at some of his refs, though, I think.

 

[MS]

There are many things that our blood type has an affect on in terms of our immunity and risks of certain diseases, so I can see how someone might think in terms of dietary allergies being affected too. However it is JUST a theory he's put forth, and there are plenty of other genetic determinants that are prolly also important in determining how individuals repsond to different foods. The cytochrome P450 and other first and second phase enzymes of metabolism are very polymorphic in humans, as are enzymes such as lactase. There will be people who are a certain blood type but still have violent allergies to foods which should, by D'Armo's theories, be good for them to eat. The bottom line is that the ABO blood typing system is a somewhat arbitrary system of classifying blood based on around 30 proteins it carries on it's surface. There are a whole lot of other proteins also carried on the surface of blood, and there are other antigenic components in plasma/serum as well which are not taken into account in the ABO system. Most importantly as you have read, type O's like yourself are not dropping dead from hemagluttination on a vegetarian diet and are, in fact, doing quite well at building healthy lean muscle on such a 'toxic' diet!

According to D'Armo, I'm supposed to thrive on venison and rabbit! Like, yeah, where am I gonna find enough venison and rabbit to feed me for the rest of my life???? At least he also says I should avoid all nuts and shellfish which is great since I hate all nuts and shellfish

 

[Honeynut]

i'm O too, and I'm lactose intolerant. Anything too carby doesn't agree with me either, pasta etc is not my thing, fills me up too fast and my energy just plummets after. Meat, veggies, fruits, whole grains. I've heard about this before, it's pretty interesting. I don't know how much validity it has, maybe it's coincidence but his ideas seem to hold true for me and for others on this thread. Too bad we're all O's! I want to see what some other types have to say.

 

[SteelWeaver]

No, I think MS just told us she's a B, the the D'Adamo guidelines for which are actually similar to O's. Methinks MS, you could skip the rabbit and venison and easily have a lifetime's supply of your other "highly beneficial" meats ... lol

This part in the B nut section is pretty scary, though - "It might be difficult for Type B Asians to give up sesame seeds and sesame-based products, but in this case, your blood type speaks more definitively than your culture" (my italics)

Uuuhh ... well, okaaaayyy ...

I can't WAIT to learn more about cell surface proteins, but we had to do protein synthesis first, and then they decided it was time to cover other general biological first year stuff. Sigh - so much to do, so little time.

 

[Ceebs]

What does he say about Type A positives, Steel? I'm curious. I seem to do best on a strict no-grain vegan diet (although I am trying to incorporate egg protein back into my life), which fits the profile of an O, not an A. My father is an O, though, and he has food allergies coming out the yin-yang.

 

[SteelWeaver]

No - O's are supposed to do best on lots of meat, fruits and veggies, with few to no grains, legumes, - basically starchy carbs. The typical hunter-gatherer type nutrition profile - like animalbolics or that type of thing.

A's were the first farmers, thus grains, legumes, potatoes etc are just fine - agrarian type nutrition - he recommmends a switch to vegetarianism for A's, with little dairy, few eggs, lots of soy products. Which doesn't really seem that farmer-like to me ... You do keto, though, don't you?

 

[Ceebs]

Huh, never mind then. I guess I am eating right for my type - the bulk of my diet is tofu and fibrous veggies. I found a locally-produced brand of tofu that I LOVE which is very meaty and substantial, almost like eating soy-y cream cheese. All of the checkers at the whole foods store where I buy it know me by shopping list, if they don't know me by name - it's pretty funny.

Whatcha studying that you put off to start this thread?

 

[SteelWeaver]

Ha ha - I've had the same experience - checkout clerks who know what you're going to buy before you buy it - last year when I was dieting for my first contest, I'd buy 80-100 eggs every few days or so, and the women at the checkout of my little local supermarket would stare and stare as inconspicuously as they could, but finally one of them could contain her curiosity no longer ... She wanted to know if I was baking with all the eggs or what, lol! I explained the whole contest diet thing, and after that I couldn't buy one single thing that wasn't on my diet without them giving me the twinkling "tut tut" eye. Oh well ...

Tofu in SA is gross after having lived in Japan - I've practically given it up - pity, because I love the stuff.

Study? Lots 'o fascinating stuff! I'm doing first year BSc - so ... Chemistry, Maths, Physics, Biology, Stats ... it's our "study break", and I set myself to study 8-10 hours a day, but I've been lagging.

I couldn't stand not being able to understand the research articles I was reading, so I went back to varsity.